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[old.Tohtori]

What is it with you and rubric being best pals? On day one, same thing, big hugs and all. Now, after blatant focus-shifting and a ridicilious contradiction to own posts, you still go with the rubric is fine comment.

 

[old.Tohtori]

You see, this kind of "nooo, he's innocent" talk is just the kind of thing that's suspicious, more so when called on it, people vote against their own points(like rubric). How would you know rubric is innocent?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Forgot to add to previous post that no, i don't trust anyone on this boat, not enough to call innocence, because that's the only logical way to look at things when we don't know the murderers.

 

[itcheh]

Who are you talking to Toht?

Specificity is key in these situations - when people start using lots of 'you' and not naming names, that's we start losing focus.

If you were talking to me then here's my response:

I didn't make any bold claims that Rubric is innocent ... I just said he didn't worry me because I don't believe his actions are that of a spy ... and then refocussed by pointing out that we actually have 2 much better candidates to review right now.

Is there anything I've said that's unreasonable?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yes it was towards you as it was directly in the topic and after your comment. If it's not, i'll point at who i mean.

By saying "he's not dangerous", "should focus on others", "IF you think..." and by your actions towards rubric on day 1 clearly show you think he's innocent, not a threat, not actions of spy and so forth. It's suspicious to trust someone that much and think they're not a threat.

 

[Uara]

But couldn't it all be some ruse on the part of Rubric. "I'll act all insane on the first day just to make people think any spy wouldn't do this as it would draw attention to myself."
Then come out with the whole ideas and theories etc and rely on people thinking that he can't be a spy due to his first days action.

I'm not saying you're working with him itcheh but its entirely plausible he's got you fooled.

 

[old.Tohtori]

That's an aggressive defense really, which works too. No one pays attention to the loonies. More troubled by contradicting so badly.

 

[itcheh]

It is indeed an aggressive strategy and one I don't buy in to.

I have not tried to convince anyone else to agree with me about Rubric, I have merely stated an opinion and explained why

I have then pointed out that there are better candidates to focus on right now.

Once again - am I being unreasonable?

 

[old.Tohtori]

No, but you are avoiding the issue here, which is that you seem to do the same thing rubric did; ignore people from "ze list" because you feel like it. Which is ironic since the one eprson you vote on, rubric said we shouldn¨'t vote on(on same reasons), yet after you rubric voted on him.

That, to me, is suspicious. Not your actions alone, but you two together.

 

[itcheh]

Toht, I'm not ignoring anyone from any list - those are your words - right now I believe you're just adding confusion to this investigation by drawing attention to irrelevance and 'casting the net' wide with your suspicions.

In addition, I am not "avoiding" any issue - I'm just not being asked any direct questions that I haven't already explained in my previous statements - and quite frankly I don't feel the need to repeat myself over and over again.

Anyone who reads back in the ship's log will agree that I've been quite explicit and listed rational and logical reasons for every statement I have made.

Final declaration - I urge the crew members of this boat to put in sharp focus the investigation of the 2 main candidates before we start nailing other (random?) crew members to the wall.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Deny it all you like, what you've said tells more.

You have in effect removed rubric from your list ad are ignoring the blatant contradictions he's said, while being best bunkbuddies with him from the start.

If ch3t and opti both turn out to be innocent, i know where my money is.

My suspicion net ain't that large, i have narrowed it down pretty much all the time, i just don't do blind trust like you do.

 

[Nate]

This is something from the Original Post.

I'm not telling you the roles, except that you need not fear
anything that you havent already faced before..nothing odd or fancy promis! ;D

If what Olg had to say at the end is to be taking as truth(he did put a smiley in there so I wonder) then Opticle/Ch3tan are both lying?

 

[Mabs]

vote:rubric

 

[itcheh]

If ch3t and opti both turn out to be innocent, i know where my money is.

... and what will you be saying if Rubric is proven innocent?

 

[old.Tohtori]

... and what will you be saying if Rubric is proven innocent?

That i was wrong, ofcourse it's a possibility, i'm not clairvoyant so i go with what seems most suspicious. With the votes going as they are, others on this sub seem to agree.

If i'm wrong, we lose a person, maybe even a special, if i'm right, we get a spy. During the night we might lose opti/ch3t since both claim special roles and whoever is alive tomorrow, we'll know those aren't above suspicion.

The result of this is equal to voting for either ch3t or opti, only difference is that it's based solely on the word of one person, not actions.

 

[Rubric]

The majority wanted to go with one of the two. I do think they are both innocent. But if we are as. Group going for one of the two then ch3tan is the one I would go.for.

 

[Olgaline]

Sorry!

Ch3tan: 3 votes
Rubric: 4 votes
Opticle: 1vote
Calaen: 1 vote

6 for majority
10 alive

 

[opticle]

Aren't there 3 votes on Ch3t ? (myself, itcheh, rubric ? ) Or have I miscounted ?

I have been gunning from Rubric from the beginning - I voted him - and no one was paying any attention to me. I thought something was going on so he was top of my list of suspects to interrogate first because I wanted to see to the bottom of his ridiculous behaviour - so I could start ignoring it once I was sure he was innocent. That was until Ch3t kept hounding me and I needed to know if I could trust him.

BUT NOW.. Rubric is still odd in my mind, but as a result of what I discovered about Ch3t, I no longer suspect him as I did.

If you logically look at how I've voted.. if I'm bad, then Rubric shouldn't be as I've voted for him, pointed him out repeatedly and tried to persuade people to shoot him. Ch3tan has voted for him too (?shifting vote attention from himself). Now, I KNOW Ch3tan is bad, so I'm much less concerned about Rubric.

I do think there's some back story to his behaviour though.

And Ch3t - I know I sound blinkered by what I've said about Itcheh.. But he IS right, so I have to just be honest about it. I'm not saying there isn't potential for a very intelligent cover there, but as I am sure you are crooked and he is supporting that, I don't think it's very likely at all.

We're running out of time, I know I'm right, so I'm still saying vote Ch3tan.

If I'm wrong, I might as well shoot myself.

 

[Calaen]

I am not worried about Rubric - his madness on day 1 drew a lot of attention and made him stand out as different to everyone else on the boat ... hardly the sage tactics of a spy.

Spies are sneaky ... quiet for the most part, but guiding the conversation from the shadows when necessary.

Rubric strikes me as a bit of a loon ... but he's not dangerous. If you're worried about him then 'tag him' and put him to one side ... there are better candidates to review right now: (Ch3t and Opti)

... and you all know what I think on that matter.

Guiding the conversation like you are trying? Haha, pull the other one, its got bells on it.

 

[Calaen]

vote:rubric

Any reason why?

 

[Sydrik]

Ok, after some recon around the lower levels of the sub for 2 days I can assure you all that decks 'Ipswich' and 'Peterborough' are bot shit holes and not worth visiting..

In terms of the goings-on.
Opticle, you have made a massive mistake in showing your hand far too early. IF we do have a doctor on board I think Opticle may need protecting tonight.
Ch3t, nice story and you might have been saved simply by opticle playing a bad hand.
I do agree with Toht and Calaen about Itcheh and Rubric looking suspicious and because of that

vote: rubric

I dont however like Mabs voting. Picking with no reason is very dodgy...

 

[Mabs]

Any reason why?

yup

 

[Rubric]

I am guilty of being scared when trapped in a sub at the bottom of the ocean with murderers on board. And I am guilty of voting for calean with a reason and then changing my vote to go with what the majority wanted to do against my gut feelings.

Kill me you will be proved to be the fools you currently only appear to be.

 

[Calaen]

yup

Care to share it?

 

[Ch3tan]

The maj

I am guilty of being scared when trapped in a sub at the bottom of the ocean with murderers on board. And I am guilty of voting for calean with a reason and then changing my vote to go with what the majority wanted to do against my gut feelings.

Kill me you will be proved to be the fools you currently only appear to be.

The majority want to kill you though, so a flaw in what you wrote.

 

[Rubric]

Not when I changed 4 peopke wanted you or opti. So you argument is poor and flawed.

 

[Ch3tan]

no, 2 wanted me, 2 opti... what was the vote count on you then? You didn't vote with the majority at all. Don't fuck with semantics, they will fuck you.

 

[Rubric]

Dont play with it ch3t. 4 people wanted to Lynch one of the two people who came out. 4 is double 2 and therefore a majority. I thought you were both telling the truth. 4 people didn't. 2 people thought being scared of our situation meant a murderer. By choosing to go for one of the two of you I thought if one story was false yours felt the most likely.

Don't make.it.something it isn't.

 

[Ch3tan]

no, 2 thought I wasn't telling the truth, 2 thought opti wasn't... how many thought you weren't? It's not a difficult question. Don't spin facts.

 

[Calaen]

And telling everyone to look out for me and then voting in a bizarre manner, it looks like youve signed your own death warrant! I truly hope you are not a normal member of the crew.