wtf are we gone get now ?

[Kinag]

all well said aslong for resistance in a war we should have the following consequenses for the traitors that fires the resistance in our own realm (anything that brakes the CoC or hurts ur own realm)
for me ban/rightnow is a good way but not the best givf characters jail for 2 days ie. ban the character in a virtual jail with lvl 70 mobs (warlocks?) xd

So taking action against the people who's acting in a way most have condemned by now makes you a traitor?

I find it brave.

Those who took the relics at night acted without concern for anyone else and now TT are doing this without concern for those who took the relics at night, just that now albs get upset cause it affects them, and not their "enemies".

 

[Sollac]

lol cut me deep mate, insults are the last action of a desperate man.

and trying to relate actions in a game to terrorism and saddam hussein just proves how much of a reality check u need.

just using it as an example...relating it to real life cause and effects

personally I think its funny....an interesting stance to take.....but its the mob that has real power....He who has the mob has rome (gladiator)

your guild actions have riled the mob, the mob has fought back and no doubt will win...weight of numbers etc etcetc

Funny thing is well die trying to defend that lvl 1 keep .... which is even more stupid.

oh well....

I think its time we all made friends and all rolled new characters on a french server to annoy them all

 

[Muppet]

ofc we gonna stick with it coz we will never get the chance again obviously, hibs will get there relic back and then probably get ac'd again and u can have ur precious keep fights and relic bonus, so i dont see what the whine is about?

we knew there would be consquences when we done it and we still done it so ur threats arent really gonna make a difference.

Funny that you see this as threats, most amusing.
Im just pointing out that because you made this deceision its going to end up like this, yet you seem to have difficulties accepting that. This isnt about whining, there are alot of points I made that havent been adressed by far by any of the TT crew.

And its not our precious keep fights, its the matter of the fact that you just simply deny the prime-time crew a good fight because you want to make a point to the AC crew. Well done will be my last comment on all this bullshit, since noone of you cba to put a good well thought constructive reply anyway.

 

[Cromcruaich]

Leave em Dave, their not worth it!

TT, we rolled avalon/mid, its actually quite a thrill to start from scratch and was a real buzz lastnight.

Overall its the only way to go, other than simply putting daoc down completely. And I for one think the game still has a lot to offer, provided I can juggle the investment time with rl stuff.

Avalon obviously has the legs to last for a good while yet, its not even clustered. I really dont think the same can be said for cluster, we are hoping for a char copy or something, but very much doubt there will be any clustering up of cluster.

Anyway, sorry to leave you in the lurch a bit (and valheru, da police etc), but its time seek out some serious action elsewhere.

Oh and for me, AC raids over the last 6 months have made this decision easier to take.

 

[noaim]

It's Constantine, Arthur died years ago. Yes I think it's a ***** trick to lower a keep so that another realm can take it (regardless of the reasons for it) and yes I think that if fg'ers get upset over a AC raid it's because of some anal (oh no I said it again) gripe over 10%. Ironic? Maybe, but so what?

Jesus died a while ago too, anyways, if you really think fg people care more about relics than the rest you should think again. Rvr was best from mid-pov when albs had like 5 relics a good while ago, because there were so many alb fg´s out then, and thats what matters, that there are grps to fight.

 

[Eleasias]

AC raids are by definition lame - I haven't put that aside at all. I've also said I don't agree with them.

but still want to benefit from them?


sollac rocks, keep on fighting the good fight! for arthur! :england:

 

[Bracken]

Jesus died a while ago too, anyways, if you really think fg people care more about relics than the rest you should think again. Rvr was best from mid-pov when albs had like 5 relics a good while ago, because there were so many alb fg´s out then, and thats what matters, that there are grps to fight.

I thought Jesus lives (that's what it says on a board up our street)

I don't know whether fg people care about relics or not - I base it on what has been said in this thread in that:

1. The reason they did it was because fg people have left the game atleast in part due to AC raids.
2. If fg people are leaving the game due in part to AC raids then it's because they are either a) pissed off about missing out on large scale battles for relics or b) they are pissed off about missing out on 10% damage.
3. As they are fg people they aren't bothered about large scale battles (right meights?), therefore they must have been bothered about losing the 10%.

It's simple f*cking logic man and I'm only going on what they are saying.

but still want to benefit from them?

Want to benefit? I couldn't care less whether we have them or not. For me, this ain't about the relic - my reaction would be the same if it had been reduced in level to help another realm for any reason (iRvR, Christmas pressie etc.) You are barking up the wrong tree if you think I'm the slightest bit concerned about benefitting from 10%.

 

[mettrik]

The fact that the Relic was ACed is a side issue, this Thread started because a Guild decide that dropping a keep to level 1 would help the community....

Well nice one, hope u have read all the posts you have managed to drive a massive wedge between yourselves and the rest of YOUR realm


Was one of the lamest acts ive seen in my many years of this game.

 

[Eleasias]

that makes 2 of us then, i dont give a fk about relics either

 

[Kinag]

The fact that the Relic was ACed is a side issue, this Thread started because a Guild decide that dropping a keep to level 1 would help the community....

Well nice one, hope u have read all the posts you have managed to drive a massive wedge between yourselves and the rest of YOUR realm


Was one of the lamest acts ive seen in my many years of this game.

Then you haven't seen much.

 

[mettrik]

Then you haven't seen much.

Been In game a long time, its up there trust me, and you guys know it.

also kinda conceited of an Alb guild to infer the Hibs/Mids need our help to take their relic back. Well u all have made your beds and u now have to lie in them, GL in game .

 

[Icebreaker]

So what is this now?

Hibsomealbsgard?

 

[Kinag]

Been In game a long time, its up there trust me, and you guys know it.

also kinda conceited of an Alb guild to infer the Hibs/Mids need our help to take their relic back. Well u all have made your beds and u now have to lie in them, GL in game .

And I repeat, there's nothing you can do to hurt them in game, they get their pleasure from rvr, and you're not the one dictating how the rvr for them will be.

No matter how much you turn to "hate" them, they will always have fun in-game due to rvr.

Try sending the abusive private messages in-game and you WILL be banned.

There's one thing you need to understand, not everybody are against their choice of action.

 

[Muylaetrix]

i can't log in on daoc during the day at the moment (nerf work).

So, my question at the moment is, did the keep lower in level, or does mythic coding prevent similar acts of treason against the own realm ?

TT betrayed their own realm.

TT might have started a civil war.

The ingame consequences might become unprecedented.

unfortunately you can't kill your own realmmates. fortunately their is so much other stuff you can do ingame.

TT = traitors.

yihad, fatwah, which hunt. BURN

The stronghold alliance is calling a conclave to discuss our reaction, position and course of action that will be taken.

 

[mettrik]

So what is this now?

Hibsomealbsgard?

If it keeps the game alive why not lol

 

[elbeek]

ROFL @ all the qqing Albs, tbtfh we didn't deserve the fooking relic in the first place. Kudos to TT for actually giving the game a chance of becoming balanced once more before everyone leaves for Avalon.

Albs need to stop this AC ing relics shit as it's getting fucking tiresome. Yes you pay and play, yadda, yadda ,etc ,blah, blah, blah but pveing relix is the lamest thing in game atm.

Unfortunately no one can dictate how others play but at least there are still some that seek to redress the imbalance whilst remaining well within the CoC.

TT have made a very bold statement by lowering Rens level. If the qqers can just stop and think for one moment, surely they will realise that this was done in the interest of the game and not to fuck off the realm.

 

[Matt]

i can't log in on daoc during the day at the moment (nerf work).

So, my question at the moment is, did the keep lower in level, or does mythic coding prevent similar acts of treason against the own realm ?

TT betrayed their own realm.

TT might have started a civil war.

The ingame consequences might become unprecedented.

unfortunately you can't kill your own realmmates. fortunately their is so much other stuff you can do ingame.

TT = traitors.

yihad, fatwah, which hunt. BURN

The stronghold alliance is calling a conclave to discuss our reaction, position and course of action that will be taken.

Hahaha, you post some funny shit, Muyl.

 

[mettrik]

And I repeat, there's nothing you can do to hurt them in game, they get their pleasure from rvr, and you're not the one dictating how the rvr for them will be.

No matter how much you turn to "hate" them, they will always have fun in-game due to rvr.

Try sending the abusive private messages in-game and you WILL be banned.

There's one thing you need to understand, not everybody are against their choice of action.

Dont "Hate" them, thats a word with many reprecussions, Never been rude to anyone in game and agree if someone does pm them or anyone with abuse, then that person should be banned,

Didnt indicate everyone was against them, hence "they have drove a massive wedge "

I posted because what u fail to understand, they have damaged the Alb community, Population is low, imho we need to work together and things like this dont help.

On a personal note I dont like your refrefrence to me abusing ppl or hating ppl . not my style and the "GL in game " was meant , lets drop the them and us attitude for the good of the game peeps.

 

[Bracken]

Kudos to TT for actually giving the game a chance of becoming balanced once more

F*ck me, another one who's bothered about 10%. Didn't think you had gone anal (my word of the day that) like the rest of them.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

You've trotted out a whole host of reasons from saving Albion's reputation to bringing back those guilds who left because they were so upset about AC raids. None of them hold any weight.

How about they pay their subs, they act separetly from you and any other crybabys interests.

Seriously you (as in you people) have no logic or moral right to bitch about this, you ruined "their" gameplay now they ruin yours. We all know this game do not host all playstyles anymore, so seriously stop crying about it.

This hipocrisy (sp?) is well obvious. You ruin their game, they whine and you tell them to stfu and stop QQ about it. They ruin your game and what do u do, you whine and cry about it, tbh just stfu already, all of you.

 

[rawr]

Nice going TT, I am behind you 100% as an Alb. Oh look that just threw the whole realm theory out of the window, because strangely enough my game circles are different to yours, and most of the people I know completely disagree with AC raids also and are sick to death of being punished over them aswell (just like I know lots that don't care/ agree with them). It's actually a sight more than just TT so stop being so damn naive. If you read my post history you will find I normally see and appreciate both sides of the argument, however what you are too blind to see is the decline in population now. The AC 'increase' is not going to last forever; either they will become bored and disappear or the relic will get taken back and they will disappear. What then? Oh yes, we are back again to the decline of a server, with hardly anything to kill anywhere, let alone Agramon. This is not FG related at all, TT can see what is going on and are making their stand to protect a decline in population for everyone, not just themselves. I'm afraid people will be upset in the process, but every time an AC raid happens people get upset too - 2 sides to the coin. The reason the keep is being set to level 1 is simply to give the low population a chance to reclaim what is theirs, which is hard enough as it is. The reason you are so annoyed by this is because it is making the AC raid worthless - good. You are driving people that disagree with it away from the server faster. Yeah, good riddance to them and so forth, you will only become bored and leave yourselves when you realise they made up more to the population than you realised and there is nothing to kill anymore; this was nothing to do with e-peens on IRC but more realistically that TT were facing a realistic possibility of having to reroll to Avalon themselves as they have nothing left here (much like you would all see too if you opened your eyes) - kudos to them for going out trying.
I am not denying that those people were probably going to leave anyway, but actions such as this merely serve to give them the extra push to give in, which for a guild such as NFD to do is a very big loss.

Much like nobody can tell you stop AC raiding, they can only ask - the same can be said for TT keeping a relic keep at the lowest possible level. Once it is reclaimed and the ACers reclaim it again (perhaps to make a point?) what is to stop another Alb guild making their own stand? TT are not alone on this and your definition of 'real' Alb guilds is going to be quite limited, as you have no idea who you can and can't trust.

If anyone has any points to raise without the need to result to childish insults in regard to what I have said, I will be happy to reply. Do not make assumptions, but instead ask questions.

 

[Bracken]

How about they pay their subs, they act separetly from you and any other crybabys interests.

Seriously you (as in you people) have no logic or moral right to bitch about this, you ruined "their" gameplay now they ruin yours. We all know this game do not host all playstyles anymore, so seriously stop crying about it.

I'd have settled for they pay their subs, just like "we can because we could" - atleast it would have been honest. It's all the other bollox reasons trying to justify themselves which have been pitiful.

How have I (or people like me, I pity them whoever they are) ruined their game? I don't go to Agramon, I stand on bridges and loiter round keeps - all /afk stuck to our gl. How does that affect fg rvr in any way, shape or form?

And if you think that believing and saying something to be a ***** trick is crying then you've got some pretty warped f*cking definitions in your head.

 

[Kinag]

Dont "Hate" them, thats a word with many reprecussions, Never been rude to anyone in game and agree if someone does pm them or anyone with abuse, then that person should be banned,

Didnt indicate everyone was against them, hence "they have drove a massive wedge "

I posted because what u fail to understand, they have damaged the Alb community, Population is low, imho we need to work together and things like this dont help.

On a personal note I dont like your refrefrence to me abusing ppl or hating ppl . not my style and the "GL in game " was meant , lets drop the them and us attitude for the good of the game peeps.

When I used the word "you" it was for those who's going out of their way to flame in this thread.

A larger number of people seem to think that they have the ability to cause them harm in-game, and that's why I said "you".

I never meant that you were going to do those things.

I agree that the realm has to get more organized, but I fail to see that happening in the future due to the works which has been left behind us all these years.

Albion will not get organized in the near future, atleast not when people do what pleases them.

People taking relics at night are forcing situations upon those who doesn't want to have any part of it, and that's exactly what TT have done now.

They have turned the table, and some albs seems to get all worked up about it, not even thinking about the reason they're doing it.

The albs that are going all nuts over this needs to understand that this wouldn't have happened if they could have kept their hands off the relics during nighttime in the first place.

Sure, they need to have something to do at night when they're playing, but that does not mean they have to go after the relics.

There's lots of keeps there they can take at night, so why not take those instead?

Atleast people won't get all worked up over that.

 

[Muylaetrix]

ROFL @ all the qqing Albs, tbtfh we didn't deserve the fooking relic in the first place.

irrelevant. it was taken by fair means on a moment that is perceived as 'inconvenient' by a lot of players. too bad, it's a 24/7 game.

our american guildy has just as mucht rights to take a relic as anyone else at ANY time. you have no rights to say he can't.

when yeterday he came online, he went like 'do you like my gift ?'

i was sad to inform him that TT decided that it was not permitted and he was rather shocked tbh.

there is nothing wrong with inconvenient hours in a mmorpgh. you are not the center of the universe. the game doesn't evolve around you, it evolves WITHOUT you if you are not online.

fucking over the enemy is part of the game. fucking over your own realm is unforgivable.

...

I'm prety sure the US felt very bad over Pearl Harbour (japanese AC raid) or 9/11 (alqaida AC raid), too bad for them.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

I'd have settled for they pay their subs, just like "we can because we could" - atleast it would have been honest. It's all the other bollox reasons trying to justify themselves which have been pitiful.

How have I (or people like me, I pity them whoever they are) ruined their game? I don't go to Agramon, I stand on bridges and loiter round keeps - all /afk stuck to our gl. How does that affect fg rvr in any way, shape or form?

And if you think that believing and saying something to be a ***** trick is crying then you've .

What you and others are doing is crying. Nothing else and if you try to make that look like anything else then you, I quote "got some pretty warped f*cking definitions in your head", end of quote.

 

[Sneakers|Matriarch]

irrelevant. it was taken by fair means on a moment that is perceived as 'inconvenient' by a lot of players. too bad, it's a 24/7 game.

our american guildy has just as mucht rights to take a relic as anyone else at ANY time. you have no rights to say he can't.

when yeterday he came online, he went like 'do you like my gift ?'

i was sad to inform him that TT decided that it was not permitted and he was rather shocked tbh.

there is nothing wrong with inconvenient hours in a mmorpgh. you are not the center of the universe. the game doesn't evolve around you, it evolves WITHOUT you if you are not online.

fucking over the enemy is part of the game. fucking over your own realm is unforgivable.

...

I'm prety sure the US felt very bad over Pearl Harbour (japanese AC raid) or 9/11 (alqaida AC raid), too bad for them.

Seriously man why are you still crying? TT or whoever lowered the keep to lvl1 act SEPARETLY from you and anyone else. If they feel that ACing relics in the middle of the night is harmful to their playstyle and values or whatever, they have the right to set their keep at lvl 1.

Is there anything in what I just wrote you do not understand? Will you now stop crying? Or do you need a hug? :touch:

 

[Eeben]

Haha this is so funny go go TT

Guys you forget its all okay because they pay their subs an are nice ppl irl

What goes around comes around ?

 

[elbeek]

F*ck me, another one who's bothered about 10%. Didn't think you had gone anal (my word of the day that) like the rest of them.

tbh m8 i couldnt give a flying poop about bonuses it's the principle here from my view point.

CM and co are slowly ruining the game I love by behaving like jobless freaks with all this AC nonsense. They don't give a fcuk about the realm and any bad karma they cause. What TT have done is technically against the SoTG agreed, but maybe they felt it necessary to lower the keep in order to make a point.

This whole arguement is getting blown up way out of proportion. Lets just accept whats happen and learn from it. Namely STOP ACING RELICS as there is no need to do so.

BTW don't call me Anal as my nobby styles are like a bunch of grapes today and all you do is remind me of them

 

[elbeek]

I'm prety sure the US felt very bad over Pearl Harbour (japanese AC raid) or 9/11 (alqaida AC raid), too bad for them.

Jesus Muy, next you will be comparing this to the concentration camps. Get real please, it's a fucking game fgs.

 

[Deadweight89]

I'm prety sure the US felt very bad over Pearl Harbour (japanese AC raid) or 9/11 (alqaida AC raid), too bad for them.

i fell off my seat when i read this.

how the hell can you compare any of the above with a FAKE VIRTUAL GAME?

you really have some issues that i think you should see someone about.

shame all the people in the above couldnt just /release or maybe they should have got some better resists.

dickhead.