World Poverty

[Ash!]

Some of the top leaders in the world are metting to discuss the plight of Africa. Looking at the front page of the Independent today there are some shocking figures. They certainly have there work cut out

Life Expectancy in Years
77(G8 Countries) 48 (Africa)

Access to Clean Water
100%(UK) 45%(Dem Repub. Congo)

Annual Spend per person health $2534 Canada $1 Mali

Number of People per Doctor
169 Italy-50,000 Malawi

People with HIV
1.5Mill Developed World 291 Mill Africa

Deaths under 5(per 1,000)


6 G8 Countries-174 Africa

Cars (Per 1000)
561 US - 14 Africa

Annual Spend on subsidisng western farmers $311Bn
Annual Spend by G8 on aid for Africa $13Bn

Two thirds of the worlds population are facing a water shortage in next 25 years

Number of African Children under 5 who die each year 4.5 Million

Chance of Death in pregnancy
1 in 4083 (Developed Countries) 1 in 13 (Africa)

Extra Annual cost of Universal Education halving povery and cutting child deaths by 3/4 $25 Bn

Average Annual Income
$27854 Developed World - $1690 Africa

Sources of data include World Bank, Unicef, Oxfam, Worldview Programme & University of North Carolina

 

[SilverHood]

good thing I don't live in Africa

 

[mr.Blacky]

Off course the fact that living in Africa costs less then in the G8 has not come into people minds. How many people living in the G8 are under the poverty line?

 

[Tom]

Perhaps they should consider scrapping the EU common agricultural policy, and allow African nations to compete with Europe on a fair basis.

 

[ECA]

Originally posted by Tom[SHOTTEH]
Perhaps they should consider scrapping the EU common agricultural policy, and allow African nations to compete with Europe on a fair basis.

Wont happen.

The french farmers would revolt.

That said they are already revolting.

 

[Ash!]

Originally posted by mr.Blacky
Off course the fact that living in Africa costs less then in the G8 has not come into people minds. How many people living in the G8 are under the poverty line?

Of coures its cheaper to live in Africa. No formal infrastructure of Water or Electricity for a start

 

[pcg79]

Originally posted by ECA
Wont happen.

The french farmers would revolt.

That said they are already revolting.

Because they dont like the CAP...

 

[stu]

ah well, someone's gotta be at the bottom of the heap.

 

[Maljonic]

Originally posted by mr.Blacky
Off course the fact that living in Africa costs less then in the G8 has not come into people minds. How many people living in the G8 are under the poverty line?

me!

 

[mr.Blacky]

Originally posted by Ash!
Of coures its cheaper to live in Africa. No formal infrastructure of Water or Electricity for a start

Okay but what does a doctor cost in the G8 and what does one cost in Africa, ok the better doctors are in the G8

/edit I do however think that there should be something done about the poverty in Africa.

 

[Tom]

Allow them to compete on the world market without stupid Euro subsidies, and they would sort themselves out in just a few decades.

 

[~YuckFou~]

Instruct them in the use of condoms.
Less HIV, and less Africans.

" I have no home no food, no job and no money, lets have some more kids!"

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by ~YuckFou~
Instruct them in the use of condoms.
Less HIV, and less Africans.

" I have no home no food, no job and no money, lets have some more kids!"

African culture dictates that you are more secure in your old age if you have many children as they can all look after you when you get old.....mainly due to nobody else will look after you


But yes African countries are over populated....

 

[Durzel]

Originally posted by stu
ah well, someone's gotta be at the bottom of the heap.

lol

They are pretty shit though to be honest. Useless really. I say nuke the site from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

 

[pcg79]

Originally posted by ~YuckFou~
Instruct them in the use of condoms.
Less HIV, and less Africans.

" I have no home no food, no job and no money, lets have some more kids!"

S'religion too.

They have nowt else, so they listen to it. And it says not to use contraceptives.

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by dysfunction
African culture dictates that you are more secure in your old age if you have many children as they can all look after you when you get old.....mainly due to nobody else will look after you


But yes African countries are over populated....

I know but it isn't working is it?

Alternative plan: Neuter at birth.

 

[GDW]

You can only help them so much. For instance Somalia was a prime example, where NATO intervened to help and where basically told to fuck off.

 

[old.RedVenom]

There's several *really* interesting bits on the Guardian website about this sort of stuff - all the war torn areas that we've "helped".

Also this one about urban regeneration: talk about living on the poverty line.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/.....8354,00.html

 

[dysfunction]

I wonder what Africa would be like if it had not been infiltrated by Europeans at all. If it had been left completely alone.

I have a feeling a many Africans would still be hunting wild animals with spears and living in grass huts....

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by dysfunction
I wonder what Africa would be like if it had not been infiltrated by Europeans at all. If it had been left completely alone.

I have a feeling a many Africans would still be hunting wild animals with spears and living in grass huts....

Yeah like they did in the Egyptian Empire. They weren't very advanced at all. Or the Somalians for that matter. Or the Morrocans either.

 

[old.RedVenom]

Wouldn't living in grass huts be better than living in squallor and poverty? It might not be ideal, but who are we to measure whats best by our wonky western standards...

 

[xane]

Originally posted by old.RedVenom
Wouldn't living in grass huts be better than living in squallor and poverty?

Assuming you get past age five, that is.

 

[old.RedVenom]

Originally posted by xane
Assuming you get past age five, that is.

Different to now, how exactly? At least if they make it past 5 it won't be with a machinegun in hand, and corpses at their feet.

 

[*Exor*]

I don't really care to be honest. Some countries develop, some don't. I bet we didn't get any help to develop over the years, we just did because we're much more intelligent. Let them sort themselves out, they can start by chopping the balls off of all men that have already fathered 1 child.

 

[old.RedVenom]

Originally posted by *Exor*
I don't really care to be honest.

Oh what a worthy addition to the human race you are. Thats the sort of attitude that leads to children sporting last years Klashnikov.

 

[*Exor*]

Check out my bothered face.

I hate do-gooders, let them sort out their own mess, they are human afterall, supposed to be the most intelligent form of life on the planet?

 

[Scooba Da Bass]

Originally posted by dysfunction
I have a feeling many Africans hunt wild animals with spears and live in grass huts....

BAN FOR RACISM FS

 

[Wij]

Nowt wrong with hunting with spears.

I spent about 100 hours doing that on DAoC before I realised Hunters were gimps :/

*shame*

 

[xane]

Originally posted by old.RedVenom
Different to now, how exactly? At least if they make it past 5 it won't be with a machinegun in hand, and corpses at their feet.

Do you have any children ?

 

[old.RedVenom]

Originally posted by *Exor*
....they are human afterall, supposed to be the most intelligent form of life on the planet?

You've already proven that to be a complete lie, congratulations.