Football World cup

[Turamber]

Lol no fuckin way, Barry was one of the very worst. You need new eyes.

If not for his covering and ability to keep possession we'd have had a cricket score run up against us. Oh right, but he doesn't play for a big four team ... therefore it must be his fault that the sky is falling. Not John Terry's inability to run faster than a toddler or Rooney's impression of a blind deaf man for four games.

 

[Punishment]

Not scoring a goal/getting a penalty shot/yellow card etc because the refs don't see it is rediculous tbh, checking a camera takes what, 10 seconds?

Lol dont get me started , england didnt deserve to get through , personally im glad germany took them apart like warm bread because all you would see on the headlines tomorrow would be ''England's Heroes robbed '' Etc ...

Like the italians they need to sort out their domestic league , all the premierships playmakers are non uk players and i think this has been shown up in the tournament , that and the fact they picked their team/squad on the terms of being big names instead of players to suit the positions

 

[cHodAX]

If not for his covering and ability to keep possession we'd have had a cricket score run up against us. Oh right, but he doesn't play for a big four team ... therefore it must be his fault that the sky is falling. Not John Terry's inability to run faster than a toddler or Rooney's impression of a blind deaf man for four games.

No, none of the above. He was just fucking shit, he dwelled on the ball too long, gave possession away numerous times and wasn't in the hole where he was supposed to be sitting for ANY of the goals. Man marking Ozil? He wasn't within 10 ft of him on more than 2 occasions when Germany were attacking. He was useless, almost the most useless on the pitch. Right behind Terry and Upson.

 

[Mauness]

the thing that anoys me about the hype of our so called "good" players, is that there surrounded by other players for their club.

Non of them have played well for england in ages, get rid of capello and start picking players that look like they want to wear an england shirt.

 

[Embattle]

well I could say, told you so...
but...nah!

I do hope the England fans learn soemthing from this,
but i dout it

Top 5?
not even close

Think it would better if England players learned something from it.

ALso since JT lost the captain role I can't help but feel that has made it worse.

 

[Mauness]

If not for his covering and ability to keep possession we'd have had a cricket score run up against us. Oh right, but he doesn't play for a big four team ... therefore it must be his fault that the sky is falling. Not John Terry's inability to run faster than a toddler or Rooney's impression of a blind deaf man for four games.

didnt barry give away the ball for the 3rd goal, and completly gave up trying for the 4th?

 

[- English -]

Worst England performance I have ever seen I think.

you didnt see the Algeria game?;p

I personally blame the manager even though its the players who play shit etc. Wrong formations, subs, tactics arent good enough imo. Get rid and put the money in to grassroots.

 

[Mauness]

you didnt see the Algeria game?;p

I personally blame the manager even though its the players who play shit etc. Wrong formations, subs, tactics arent good enough imo. Get rid and put the money in to grassroots.

we were better against algeria, we didnt concede

Your right though, get rid of manager and start picking younger talent, likes of gerrard/lampard/terry/heskey etc been sitting pretty on insta-pick by every manager, by time they get dropped?

 

[Gibbo]

At 2-2 it's a different game. But tbh, we were poor today and the score was kind to us. By the time of that "goal" it could have been 3 or 4 nil anyway. Poor, sunday league in the park defending.

I really believed in Capello when we got him, but now, get rid. It all comes from the manager and he has failed. What we have had is players not in the positions they play for their clubs. And it's 3-1 when he decides to bring Heskey on, we need goals and his big plan is Heskey. Fucks sake.

But it's the players most of all, they have been shocking. Over paid premiership shite. I hope we don't see some of them in an England shirt again. Time to rebuild and ditch this lot.

 

[Cerb]

Some of the puns me and a mate reckon might be in the sun tomorrow...

"CapellOH No"
"Muller Delight"
"Klose Shave"
"Lahm of God"
and maybe "the great escape" with a picture of the german flag?

 

[ileks]

I feel far less disappointed than when we went out in the last world cup. I don't know if that's because I was younger then or because this time we were properly beaten by a quality side.

I think this is the only game where we haven't seen players diving over, faking injury, wasting time or trying to get other players booked so credit to both teams for that.

It's a shame about the Lampard goal. Maybe if it counted we would have played a different second half, committing less players forwards and maybe going on to win 3-2. The trouble is, because the Germans went on to hammer us this will be overlooked. Maybe the premier league could introduce television replays and eventually other leagues/tournaments will follow.

I don't think we should get rid of Capello. Give him another go at the Euros. There really is no one else to replace him with at the end of the day, and now he will have some world cup experience.

 

[Ormorof]

pretty poor, but would like to see Blatters excuse for not using goal line tech or man-behind goal ref now...

 

[tierk]

What a complete shower of shite the entire campaign has been. Lets hope that the morons that run the game can learn from this and move forward. New coach and maybe to cancel all the big time charlies in the team for once and for all.

To say i am disappointed is a fucking understatement and working for a German company i dont think i am going to hear the end of this for a fucking loooong time

 

[Punishment]

pretty poor, but would like to see Blatters excuse for not using goal line tech or man-behind goal ref now...

Yea get into the 21st century ffs

 

[Marc]

Never mind. Just sit back at 7pm and enjoy a true world class player in messi!

*prays he at least scores a goal so he eclipses the overated granny shaggers tally of zero goals*

 

[cHodAX]

What a complete shower of shite the entire campaign has been. Lets hope that the morons that run the game can learn from this and move forward. New coach and maybe to cancel all the big time charlies in the team for once and for all.

To say i am disappointed is a fucking understatement and working for a German company i dont think i am going to hear the end of this for a fucking loooong time

Glad someone sees it, our game it rotten from the top downwards. We need to totally overhaul the FA and wait a decade before we start seeing real results. Won't happen though, too many fat old men who know nowt about football sat on fat salaries and pensions.

 

[Marc]

See I dont agree. I for one do not believe that the premiership stars dont go out and give their all. Of course they do, its just a simple fact they arent good enough

 

[Talivar]

They didnt giv 50% let alone 100%, u see how they all walked off? i didnt see much distress or tears, no signs of players who had failedx after giving it everything.

 

[ileks]

See I dont agree. I for one do not believe that the premiership stars dont go out and give their all. Of course they do, its just a simple fact they arent good enough

I know what you mean, but why do they come across as such good players week in week out for their clubs? They even do it in the champions league, although maybe not this season.

 

[Marc]

They didnt giv 50% let alone 100%, u see how they all walked off? i didnt see much distress or tears, no signs of players who had failedx after giving it everything.

Of course they gave 100%. Its complete fallacy to suggest otherwise. Just because their passes went astray or their first touch wasnt there or they were caught out of position, doesnt mean they dont give their all.

You shouldnt confuse playing poorly with not giving 100%. The 2 arent mutually exclusive.

I played in the final of a rugby national cup once. I gave everything and I mean everything but I dropped a couple of passes, missed a couple of tackles and a pass or 2 went wayward but I know I gave my all in that game.

 

[soze]

I really do hope the FA don't over react now. I really could see them making stupid pointless sweeping changes. 8 English players per team would be devastating on the league. Instead they need to take some of the TV money and create regional Football Schools of Excellence which could be partially funded by charging teams when they sign talent from the schools.

 

[Thorwyn]

Bad luck for England with the 2-2. God knows what would have happened in the second half if the ref would have seen it.
However, England was not play well today. Way too many holes in the defence, an invisible Wayne Rooney and generally a lack of creativity sealed it. Looks like you guys really need a huge generation change in the team.
On the plus side: what a great match in terms of sportsmanship. Very few fouls, no diving, just football as it is supposed to be played.
Sad to see England go, but well... better luck next time!

 

[Embattle]

Never mind. Just sit back at 7pm and enjoy a true world class player in messi!

*prays he at least scores a goal so he eclipses the overated granny shaggers tally of zero goals*

Just like waiting for God eh.

 

[eksdee]

 

[megadave]

Capello better fuck off, useless fuckin prick.

 

[Talivar]

Capello was great until he dropped his golden rule of only using players in top form. He dropped that and took ppl like gerrard who had a bad season, Rooney who wasnt fit and barry/king who also wasnt fit. Even tho james did good today lets be fait , 3 GKs where chosen and the one with the ebst run in form wasnt used.

 

[kiliarien]

Many points can and have been raised. In my mind:

1) Terry should have stayed as captain, poor management decision
2) England have never been happy from the start of this WC campaign, in either formation or attitude, which points to more management issues
3) The high pace premiership game hasn't been displayed by them for more than 10 minutes, which points towards a poor training regime
4) It's clear the squad want to say stuff and haven't, which might be quite professional but might not help the cause in the long run, again suggesting poor leadership
5) England had a poor game, which you just can't do at this level. If it wasn't the Germans it would have been Argentina/Mexico next round
6) Rooney had a sucky tournament - however, everytime he got the ball, there were 2/3 on him and NO-ONE running past/to him for support in EVERY game, what is he meant to do?? He's not a god. There was no width in tactics

The England camp to me was in pretty much the same level of disarray as the French, it was just covered up in a far more efficient manner.

Bye Bye Capello - move out of your fooking 4-4-2 (where you should play with WIDTH!) mentality where every coach can adapt and beat you and live in the modern world of international football where players are allowed to constructively criticise and you actually LISTEN. Oh, and don't play Gerrard on the left.

Hopefully he'll get off his high horse and realise he isn't always right. This has pretty much proven it. The sad thing is, who do you turn to next? I liked the idea of Pearce developing his skills in the future and doing the job, but under Capello he has been a little bitch lap dog.

Still, better to lose to the Germans at the football than the wars....

 

[cHodAX]

See I dont agree. I for one do not believe that the premiership stars dont go out and give their all. Of course they do, its just a simple fact they arent good enough

I see it differently, yes technically most are not where they should be but also tactically disorganised and inept. Our players seem to be able to play one way and that is it.

Also, something we should have been asking for 20 years. Why do we never ever produce left footed left wingers? My younger brother Lee was fucking brilliant as a kid, a guy from City came to watch him a couple of times but they never followed up. Why? Too small. He is 5ft 10 inches now and about 12 stone, they were so short sighted they couldn't see beyond a skinny frame on a 15 year old boy. He is natural with both feet and I do mean totally natural, had pace to burn as a teenager but most importantly was gifted with the ball at his feet (not a Messi that would be just silly but made Downing look like a rapist) and could bang in some blinding crosses with his left peg.

In the end he was overlooked, dejected and turned to education where he found a spark and went on to do very well for himself. Now I am not saying he should have been England's left winger for the last decade or so but he was good and could have made it professional given a chance and the right coaching. That is a story that is repeated up and down this country every day for the last 40 years, talented kids thrown on the scrapheap because they don't fit the mold that English coaches are looking for.

 

[Embattle]

It in essence was various failures from top to bottom.

 

[cHodAX]

It in essence was various failures from top to bottom.

It is the English way, it runs right through our culture these days, infact we celebrate failure and teach our children that they don't need to compete.

Survival of the fattest.