Why are the soloers gone?

[Gotmagi]

There are still a few non-stealther soloers around, shame most of them happen to be rr 8-11 ubertanks u cant rly win against I'm quite inactive atm, play mostly after midnight when I dont lag very much, and got exams atm so Will be back to some goodie soloing in a week or so when exams are done

 

[Brackus]

Jarvio (R9) with Sorc bot.

To be honest, its only fair he has a sorc bot, not like hes gonna get rps through skill

 

[ebenezer]

1)
2) So RPs = honour now? Now that's a misunderstood and somewhat twisted view on honour. Yes RvR is realm versus realm, but that "argument" makes fuck sence? Or is it just me? I'm actually laughing out loud when I PM someone, asking politely "Why did you interfere in my fight?" and I get the answer "OMG it's RVR m8!"

Oh and regarding your (bloodaxe_runskalle) blabbering about soloers not respect the others playstyle; Well yes I don't respect others playstyle, and will sometimes even insult (wich actually is pretty stupid) someone playing the other style, because. Out there in the game YOU are the ones whom do not respect our playstyle, and we can't do anything about it in-game, and that's why we show our "love" towards your playstyle on boards or on IRC.

Have to adress this( as it have been adressed a million times before)
But not respecting other peoples playstyles and then wonder why they dont respect urs is a bit silly. And about the "this is war" argument, well for him its a perfectly valid argument and a way to play the game. So what up with not respecting that kiv? Sure you can disagree and whine on him all you want, but as you know its only gonna result in him and people that plays they way he likes disrespecting you even more and ruin all ur fights and laugh at you. Only thing you might acomplish is blow out some steam but thats also all. Plus the disfavour your doing urself and other soloers by making people hate the solo playstyle. We dont have any right as soloers to try and dictate the game for others, we choose to do this thing in this big war that realm vs realm is, and we have to accept the chaos around us and be happy for the few fights we get 1 vs 1 there in.
over and out..

ps, before someone sais that: but its ok for the warmonglers to dictate our playstyle???
My answer to that is, that they answer the whines and curses they get with the bitter retort that its war and anything goes and it should be played that way. If you meet another human being with a shout and a curse...you get treated the same way back. In 90% of the cases i seen about this kinda discussions it is always the soloers or non adders that starte the cursing and antisocial behaviour...
over and out..

 

[dub]

stopped playing sb after 1.82 arrived , remedy for all , AF debuff in cs line , bludgeon , and then the new assasins rr 5 abilities , would have preferred real fixes instead of slapped on band-aids , afraid this was last call to get them.

 

[Farmacistu]

I'm gonna renew my acc after one month break just cause a m8 came bk and i'll be duoing ( been solo since rr3 ) cba what ppl think or do any more i learned from rr5 upwards not to even care if get zerged or added on its a game in the end does not matter that much , smash a few keyboards have break come bk later rvr might be better if not step outside for a beer ..
Lot have left since its impossible to solo i did it cause enjoyed it lot as my view of an asassin even if that got me a lot of pm's and slaps from friends ,, why did u not help add etc .. '' in the end play how u like either zerg or solo .

 

[Coldbeard]

Soloing has nothing to do with having balls or not..

Its just a way of playing, and no really its not better then just killing things with your friends.
I seriously start to hate those socalled elite solo players who think they are anything better then the standard casual daoc player. Its pretty sad (and funny) to see how some of you react on all this.

So you are saying that it is just as easy to solo as it is to for example run a small grp? Then you are indeed clueless, there is alot more skills and experience required to solo, and of course it takes more balls to go out in rvr alone instead of comfortably around a zerg, how can you be questioning that? You rely on yourself and ONLY yourself, if you do mistake you will suffer, the pressure is on you. In grps your faults and bad play can be evened out by other grp members.

Elite soloers, care to explain? Or are you just trying to express a negative view on people that are dedicated soloers?

 

[oranjeboom]

i solo 99.99% of the time, cept for sat nights when i grp with guild..
with regards to adders, some fights i get added on and some i dont, and tbh as everyone says its a rvr zone.
imo if you are out in the frontiers you are fair game and should expect to be killed.
ive been steamrolled by fg`s loads and loads of times, now i just sit down and wait to die, so i can rebuff ect...
im normally found face down in the mud at DC,, BLEND or NOTT.
i guess my piont is, ppl need to chill out, tbh.
if u get ganked just /rel buff up and go back...
you are allways going to get ppl adding on fights, thats the way this GAME is being played atm.....

 

[crispy]

Right now im just pissed that i dont get any rp fomr killing albs in albion since they are all "worth reduced rp"

 

[Gotmagi]

some1 mind removing this shit insta rvr? uke:

 

[Fuaip]

me too

solo on WL is sooo tough...../clap

well, without your chambers its hard for you i've noticed..

 

[kivik]

But not respecting other peoples playstyles and then wonder why they dont respect urs is a bit silly. And about the "this is war" argument, well for him its a perfectly valid argument and a way to play the game. So what up with not respecting that kiv?

I'm not saying I'm not respecting that, but I can't respect it either because it seems like it doesn't make any sence to me. Believe me. you would have helped more if you actually could explain why this argument is so perfectly valid. And no I'm not stupid, someone is just explaining in a bad way, or not at all.

Sure you can disagree and whine on him all you want

Hmm so here I created this thread to discuss a topic and now get accused for whining? If you still think I'm whining you should maybe compare my posts and bloodaxe posts, somewhat similiar, eh?

but as you know its only gonna result in him and people that plays they way he likes disrespecting you even more and ruin all ur fights and laugh at you.

Alright, Bloodaxe_Springskalle mentioned several times that he soloes 90% of his play time, so what you are saying is: If I keep discussing (whining in your language apparently) it's gonna result in Bloodaxe and all other soloers disrespect me for being a soloer and ruin all my fights and laugh at me? Maybe you should read the thread over again.

I'm exactly the reverse of what you are talking about right now, I know exactly what you mean. People around here think the best way to "deal" with "together-we-are-strong" people is to flame and insult them, wich, as you said, leads to nothing in particular. When I do get added/zerged (by hibs) I try to log on to hib and talk/discuss with these people, sometimes it turns out great but usually it's just ends up with "rofl well don't solo then?".

As I said the "together-we-are-strong" people are the ones who are provoking us in-game, expect flames and insults on these boards, that's what you're asking for actually

My answer to that is, that they answer the whines and curses..

And why do you think we are the ones whining? Yes because "they" are provoking us with their playstyle.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

there is alot more skills and experience required to solo

ROFL skills... hahahaha it's all about timers.. arti timers, RA timers and ML timers, daoc has so little to do with skills now that you need next to NO skill at all to be good... all it takes is being unemployed, have no GF and you're set for rr10 in no time ^^

and of course it takes more balls to go out in rvr alone instead of comfortably around a zerg, how can you be questioning that? You rely on yourself and ONLY yourself, if you do mistake you will suffer, the pressure is on you. In grps your faults and bad play can be evened out by other grp members.

it doesent take balls to solo, it's all about what you prefer, im sure there's ppl that don't dare to solo and is afraid of being killed, they are cowards but you don't need to be brave or have balls to solo, it's a frigging game and dying isnt a big deal.

 

[Dorimor1]

Balls to play a computer game, whatever next.

ROFL skills... hahahaha it's all about timers.. arti timers, RA timers and ML timers, daoc has so little to do with skills now that you need next to NO skill at all to be good... all it takes is being unemployed, have no GF and you're set for rr10 in no time ^^

This perfectly describes the person you are quoting xD

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

Alright, Bloodaxe_Springskalle mentioned several times that he soloes 90% of his play time, so what you are saying is: If I keep discussing (whining in your language apparently) it's gonna result in Bloodaxe and all other soloers disrespect me for being a soloer and ruin all my fights and laugh at me? Maybe you should read the thread over again.

i support any way you play this game, as long as you have fun and remember it's only a game.
i solo alot since i have RL stuff i need to attend to often and can't have a grp or friends wait for me all the time, i enjoy soloing but duo/trio is my personal pref.
and i am far from "elite", i work too much and am soon a married man so i would never have the time to stroke my e-penis if i was ^^

 

[kivik]

ROFL skills... hahahaha it's all about timers.. arti timers, RA timers and ML timers, daoc has so little to do with skills now that you need next to NO skill at all to be good... all it takes is being unemployed, have no GF and you're set for rr10 in no time ^^

Something tells me that you definately hasn't soloed.

So you are saying that it's all about timers, and you need no skill at all to be good. I'm going to change this around abit. First of all since almost everyone got different kind of abilities there is no really big advantage using an ability unless the enemy doesn't uses one too, wich he in most situations can. Also to use abilties while moving, pressing correct styles and keeping an eye on the screen, does require more skill. Yes there is no skill required at all to press an ability and slam tauntstyle to make you win, however that doesn't make you good, it makes you win. (If the enemy didn't use any counter-ability)

And onto the last line, depends really, wich class you play, wich playstyle you have and so on. I doubt it is easy. Would love to see you accomplish that with a savage, solo!

 

[kivik]

i support any way you play this game, as long as you have fun and remember it's only a game.
i solo alot since i have RL stuff i need to attend to often and can't have a grp or friends wait for me all the time, i enjoy soloing but duo/trio is my personal pref.
and i am far from "elite", i work too much and am soon a married man so i would never have the time to stroke my e-penis if i was ^^

wasn't aimed at you

grats and such though

 

[brad]

I solo btw............my 2 pence.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

Something tells me that you definately hasn't soloed.

i said that you don't need balls to solo, i never said anything about being good at it.
when i solo i usually (depends how tired i am after work) have more deathblows than deaths wich is good enough to satisfy me.
the difference between good and bad players is usually that bad ones rarely use "extra" abilities at all, and if they do it's usually the wrong ones at the wrong time.
my opinion is that any person with 10 normally functioning fingers can be good at daoc, some just need more time to learn.
Many of the "feared" assassins over the years was a laugh for months before they got the hang of it.
some ppl never learn however, but you don't need any extraordinary skills to be good at playing daoc, all you need is experiense and common sense.

 

[Bloodaxe_Springskalle]

This is just pointless, surely I could reply: You could respect the people who want to play solo aswell.

i do respect that ppl want to solo, i solo myself, but i won't adjust my playstyle or expect anyone else to fit yours.
for example, i will rather add on 1000 ppl that didnt want my help than to NOT add when a realm mate is in need and wanted my help ^^
and if you are so hot on solo fights, it's not so hard for the "elite" soloers to arrange meeting in a place outside the iRvR area or other common RvR places.
I dont mean duels, but a set soloers area where rarely other ppl travel in RvR, theres lots to pick from.

Agramon is almost allways empty, at least it has been for a good long while with few exeptions.
if non soloers then follow you there with their zerg they are *****, but you can't tell ppl in a large scale war to be carefull whom you nuke.
i rarely know who i fight until after i release or after i restealth, i really couldnt care less until the fight is done tbh.

 

[Gotmagi]

This perfectly describes the person you are quoting xD

You really are a clueless mf'er aren't u?

 

[ebenezer]

I'm not saying I'm not respecting that, but I can't respect it either because it seems like it doesn't make any sence to me. Believe me. you would have helped more if you actually could explain why this argument is so perfectly valid. And no I'm not stupid, someone is just explaining in a bad way, or not at all.



Hmm so here I created this thread to discuss a topic and now get accused for whining? If you still think I'm whining you should maybe compare my posts and bloodaxe posts, somewhat similiar, eh?



Alright, Bloodaxe_Springskalle mentioned several times that he soloes 90% of his play time, so what you are saying is: If I keep discussing (whining in your language apparently) it's gonna result in Bloodaxe and all other soloers disrespect me for being a soloer and ruin all my fights and laugh at me? Maybe you should read the thread over again.

I'm exactly the reverse of what you are talking about right now, I know exactly what you mean. People around here think the best way to "deal" with "together-we-are-strong" people is to flame and insult them, wich, as you said, leads to nothing in particular. When I do get added/zerged (by hibs) I try to log on to hib and talk/discuss with these people, sometimes it turns out great but usually it's just ends up with "rofl well don't solo then?".

As I said the "together-we-are-strong" people are the ones who are provoking us in-game, expect flames and insults on these boards, that's what you're asking for actually




And why do you think we are the ones whining? Yes because "they" are provoking us with their playstyle.

hehe...ok..seems you missunderstood half of what i said in my reply to you. but il write again and try make it easier to understand
First of all you say you dont disrespect them...but you cant respect them?
Dont know what you mean by that sorry
And you say you dont understand his argument about war and want me to explain it, well..just respect he have a different playstyle even though you dont understand it maybe? That you cant relate to it shouldnt make any difference imo.

You say i was too harsh on you and called some of what you wrote whine. well thats my opinion, i seemed to detect some whine which means ur not happy with the situasion if i refrase it like that, correct?

You also missunderstood the thing about what i said regarding that you spoil by whining and cursing at others. What i mean isnt that all soloers will laugh at you, i said: By whining and cursing at the ones you cant respect for having the "full out war" type of playstyle, you will acomplish nothing..nada zip etc, except making them ruin for you even more and laugh at you. Do i make this easier to understand this time?

Also this is from you:
"Oh and regarding your (bloodaxe_runskalle) blabbering about soloers not respect the others playstyle; Well yes I don't respect others playstyle, and will sometimes even insult (wich actually is pretty stupid) someone playing the other style, because. Out there in the game YOU are the ones whom do not respect our playstyle, and we can't do anything about it in-game, and that's why we show our "love" towards your playstyle on boards or on IRC."

And yet you say to me you dont act like that and that you rather logg on to discuss with them?
I cant follow you here really^^

also you say that these people "provoke" you with their playstyle. I must say you are a tad paranoid there my friend, i know like 100 people or more that plays the game just for fun and couldnt care less about how you or anyone else play the game, so whatever they do they dont do it intentionally, but by cursing at them they just might to start doing it with the intetion to ruin ur gaming..so you cant win there really im a fraid.
Anyhow, im abit confused to what you mean all over, but though we have a similar playstyle and like to both solo, i dont agree with some of the methods about cursing and whining, and if you also have that oppinion and i missunderstood completely...then we havent got anything to discuss
Otherwise we just have different views and lets leave it at that.
over and out..

 

[Solari]

ROFL skills... hahahaha it's all about timers.. arti timers, RA timers and ML timers, daoc has so little to do with skills now that you need next to NO skill at all to be good... all it takes is being unemployed, have no GF and you're set for rr10 in no time ^^

Admittedly it also takes a great deal of skills targetting someone in a duel at a 1300 units range and hit 3 on your keyboard for lifetap watching your enemy go down without the slightest chance of retaliating.

 

[Calo]

So you are saying that it is just as easy to solo as it is to for example run a small grp? Then you are indeed clueless, there is alot more skills and experience required to solo, and of course it takes more balls to go out in rvr alone instead of comfortably around a zerg, how can you be questioning that? You rely on yourself and ONLY yourself, if you do mistake you will suffer, the pressure is on you. In grps your faults and bad play can be evened out by other grp members.

Elite soloers, care to explain? Or are you just trying to express a negative view on people that are dedicated soloers?

I'm saying that its not because ppl like to play with a duo or trio that they don't have balls. You're right that it takes more "skill" altho theres a big difference in having solo skills or teamplay skills.

What i mean with elite soloers are those ppl who go around and go like "either you play solo and rule or you are a 10year old wanker that has no skills which is bullshit.

 

[Raven]

half the problem is that people take things far to seriously, i know that if i dont kill the person with the red writing above their head my wife and children will not be raped and murdered and my towns and farms will be safe enough. the people in mid and alb are gamers just like me, they just picked a different realm, i dont have to kill everyone i see, in fact i will quite happily let them go if they pose no threat to me, be it low RR, a solo'er (the very rare times i am grouped) or not up for a fight and i definatly wont spoil their potential fun by jumping in and adding on them, whats the point, RPs mean nothing if you out number people all the time, just numbers on a stat sheet.

 

[Mactavish]

half the problem is that people take things far to seriously, i know that if i dont kill the person with the red writing above their head my wife and children will not be raped and murdered and my towns and farms will be safe enough. the people in mid and alb are gamers just like me, they just picked a different realm, i dont have to kill everyone i see, in fact i will quite happily let them go if they pose no threat to me, be it low RR, a solo'er (the very rare times i am grouped) or not up for a fight and i definatly wont spoil their potential fun by jumping in and adding on them, whats the point, RPs mean nothing if you out number people all the time, just numbers on a stat sheet.

Agree, my leaf eater friend

 

[Coldbeard]

Balls to play a computer game, whatever next.



This perfectly describes the person you are quoting xD

Gotta love it when the bonedancing clown from thidranki appears to stalk you again

Now foo shoo back to where you belong, this is rvr discussion, not BG-talk.

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/forumdisplay.php?f=39

Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

 

[Coldbeard]

ROFL skills... hahahaha it's all about timers.. arti timers, RA timers and ML timers, daoc has so little to do with skills now that you need next to NO skill at all to be good... all it takes is being unemployed, have no GF and you're set for rr10 in no time ^^



it doesent take balls to solo, it's all about what you prefer, im sure there's ppl that don't dare to solo and is afraid of being killed, they are cowards but you don't need to be brave or have balls to solo, it's a frigging game and dying isnt a big deal.

I'm glad my post amuses you.

All about timers? That's abit over the top, sure timers are important. Probably even more important for stealther vs stealther, but I wouldnt know anything about that. However, I do disagree that it does not take any skill to solo. Firstly, playing a visible char you will have problems finding your fights, you need to know where to find fights, and with the lowest risk of adds. Not to mention patience. One of the key elements when soloing if you ask me, many times I can play for like 2-3 hours and hardly get 1 solo fight, makes you wanna log straight away, but all of a sudden you can get like 3-4 fun fights in 30min.

Anyways, charges, abilities. They all required to be used with timing and purpose. You need to know when to use what. The timing of a charge or an ability can turn the fight or lose it.

You say it takes NO skill to be good, only time to play. Don't quite understand what you mean. Being a good player certaintly involves having the skills needed ? I assume you mean that getting high rr or much rp only depends only how much playtime you have. I agree to some extent, but that doesn't necessarily make you good at your char imo.

Have to disagree on your last statement. I think it requires more courage and patience to run out solo relying only on yourself than running around comfortably surrounded by others. Explain this earlier to Calo.

 

[Raven]

i have to go to church tomorrow to say about a thousand hail marys for agreeing with coldbeard, i am not even catholic

 

[kivik]

i never said anything about being good at it.

daoc has so little to do with skills now that you need next to NO skill at all to be good...

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Anyhow, im abit confused to what you mean all over, but though we have a similar playstyle and like to both solo, i dont agree with some of the methods about cursing and whining, and if you also have that oppinion and i missunderstood completely...then we havent got anything to discuss

Yes I think we got a somewhat similar playstyle.

 

[Gahn]

half the problem is that people take things far to seriously, i know that if i dont kill the person with the red writing above their head my wife and children will not be raped and murdered and my towns and farms will be safe enough. the people in mid and alb are gamers just like me, they just picked a different realm, i dont have to kill everyone i see, in fact i will quite happily let them go if they pose no threat to me, be it low RR, a solo'er (the very rare times i am grouped) or not up for a fight and i definatly wont spoil their potential fun by jumping in and adding on them, whats the point, RPs mean nothing if you out number people all the time, just numbers on a stat sheet.

Tuff shit must spread some rep before giving to ya again -.-