Phones Which new phone?

[Poag]

One S down to £314 at expansys SIM Free

http://www.expansys.com/htc-one-s-ceramic-metal-230466/

 

[old.user4556]

http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/12/apple-iphone-5-liveblog/

 

[soze]

Cookie cutter upgrade tbh. I don't see a reason to upgrade over my 4s. I will end up getting one as a way to get overtime money without paying tax

 

[caLLous]

Yeah, yeah. Try and disguise your burning desire to get one however you like. Fanboy.

 

[Bodhi]

If you are after a Sony phone, check that it is still supported by Sony.

In their usual fashion of not supporting their own products they have dropped quite a few android phones and they will no longer be updated...my 9 month old Xperia play for example.

I will flash it at some point and update it myself I think, cut out a lot of the Sony undeletable junk that way too!

Only reason the Xperia Play didn't get updated to ICS was it kept breaking games, which as that was the point of the play, they decided not to release the update. Other than the Play, every single Xperia from 2011 has been updated. As far as I know, no other manufacturer has done this.

I'd suggest you check your facts first.

 

[caLLous]

No other manufacturer makes Xperia's.

 

[Ono]

Well, iphone5 then ........


In other news, weather was miserable today.

 

[eksdee]

 

[Scouse]

Looks the same as almost every other phone...

 

[soze]

Hum I am very sad because I now want it just for the lack of silver round the outside despite knowing that it being Black Anodized metal means it will show every little scratch

 

[Aada]

Hum I am very sad because I now want it just for the lack of silver round the outside despite knowing that it being Black Anodized metal means it will show every little scratch

So you will get one then?

£529 for that? Jesus fucking christ overpriced to the point of stupidity, a very old UI that looks the same with every damn version and a bigger screen. Oh WAIT! you need that new Pin adapter that costs another £25 best part of £550.

Apple used to take risks now they just make minimal upgrades and call it revolutionary.

Anyone remember when the Apple boys used to snort at a 4'' screen? now they love them!

 

[Poag]

Found this one with a quick google.

http://www.callingallgeeks.org/38549/heres-why-the-iphone-may-always-have-a-3-5-inch-display/

I loved all these article when they came out, as i knew they'd have to put out bigger screens soon as Droid was.

This article was carried on pretty much every Mac site at the time (can't find proof atm tho) and they all ran with this line

A mobile device that has a 4 inch or larger display is practically useless,

 

[soze]

So you will get one then?

£529 for that? Jesus fucking christ overpriced to the point of stupidity, a very old UI that looks the same with every damn version and a bigger screen. Oh WAIT! you need that new Pin adapter that costs another £25 best part of £550.

Apple used to take risks now they just make minimal upgrades and call it revolutionary.

Anyone remember when the Apple boys used to snort at a 4'' screen? now they love them!

Maybe. Depends how much over time I do and if there is anything I want more. I will not be spending real money on it however.

 

[eksdee]

Just got the Galaxy Beam in at work today, we tested the projector with MILF porn (obviously). Results: the projector is as shit as expected. Could barely make out the picture with it set to full brightness. Who'd have thought a phone with a silly gimmick would be a waste of time?!

 

[Krazeh]

Maybe. Depends how much over time I do and if there is anything I want more. I will not be spending real money on it however.

So what will you be spending on it?

 

[Raven]

Euros

 

[soze]

So what will you be spending on it?

If it is something i can use for work like the iPhone I can buy it from my overtime so I save 30% on income tax and NI then 20% VAT on the purchase*, So If i can get the right money on my 4s the upgrade will cost me very little.

*I understand from our auditor that this is legal.

 

[Raven]

If work are paying for it, it goes on your P11d so you pay the income tax on it (afaik)

 

[Vae]

If work are paying for it, it goes on your P11d so you pay the income tax on it (afaik)

A phone is no longer considered a benefit as long as it is used for work purposes and incidental personal calls. Soze's situation sounds a little grey tbh.

 

[soze]

A phone is no longer considered a benefit as long as it is used for work purposes and incidental personal calls. Soze's situation sounds a little grey tbh.

Yeah work contract but only get a basic phone by default. If you want a better phone now you have to pay yourself, also not limited with the number of personal calls so not sure tbh.

 

[Poag]

One X price cut for today

http://www.expansys.com/htc-one-x-p...=MkEwNzA1REQ0M0MxRDM=&its=eNewsletter17.09.12

 

[Poag]

Also i gigled

 

[soze]

It must be my fan boy side but I think that's a bit sad.

 

[Lamp]

Its war out there. In the courts. In the shops. On the internet.

 

[DaGaffer]

My iPhone is a work phone and the only other choice is a Blackberry, so I'll be getting the 5 as part of my next upgrade (November I think). If it was my own choice I'd probably get the Xperia T; it looks rather spiffing, or even the Lumia...

 

[cHodAX]

Hanging on for an dual core x86 windows 8 phone myself, the replacement for Medfield (Merrifield) is due around the end of year and it will crush everything in it's path plus HDMI out and full x86 support so the apps market is going to grow rapidly.

"This is a really big deal for us," he said. "It's not just a technology shrink to 22nm, it's a fundamental change. There's a brand new processor core, it has state of the art imaging and graphics and is a new part from the ground up."

Merrifield will ship next year in high-end smartphones and tablets, and will be augmented with some intellectual property gained through acquisition. Bell mentioned imaging patents that allow smartphones to take multiple high-resolution camera shots and power-saving gains that could give 14 days standby time.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/11/intel_smartphone_android/

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/05/14/intel-merrifield-system-chip-may-end-up-2013-superphones/

 

[Bodhi]

Hanging on for an dual core x86 windows 8 phone myself, the replacement for Medfield (Merrifield) is due around the end of year and it will crush everything in it's path plus HDMI out and full x86 support so the apps market is going to grow rapidly.



http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/11/intel_smartphone_android/

http://www.intomobile.com/2012/05/14/intel-merrifield-system-chip-may-end-up-2013-superphones/

HDMI OUT>??????!?"!"?!?"!? ON A PHONE???!?"!?"!

Mein gott, where do they get these wonderful ideas??????

AND IT IS EVEN DUEL COAR!"!"!"!"!????

Seriously dude, that kind of thing has been out for years, even my 6 month old Sony has them. It has the added bonus of not running Windows too!

 

[cHodAX]

HDMI OUT>??????!?"!"?!?"!? ON A PHONE???!?"!?"!

Mein gott, where do they get these wonderful ideas??????

AND IT IS EVEN DUEL COAR!"!"!"!"!????

Seriously dude, that kind of thing has been out for years, even my 6 month old Sony has them. It has the added bonus of not running Windows too!

You missed the point fucknuts! It's a dual core x86 cpu built on a 22nm process (clock for clock Atom wipes the floor with ARM and Merrifield is substantially improved over the current Atom), low power high performance and it runs Windows, which means x86 applications which means hdmi to a screen, bluetooth keyboard/mouse and I have a PC able to do light workloads in proper applications as well as serve as fantastic media playback device not limited to codecs that the manufacturer decided would be all I ever need.

 

[Bodhi]

You missed the point fucknuts! It's a dual core x86 cpu built on a 22nm process (clock for clock Atom wipes the floor with ARM and Merrifield is substantially improved over the current Atom), low power high performance and it runs Windows, which means x86 applications which means hdmi to a screen, bluetooth keyboard/mouse and I have a PC able to do light workloads in proper applications as well as serve as fantastic media playback device not limited to codecs that the manufacturer decided would be all I ever need.

I'm sorry, which part of that is new and exciting again? Not sure if you've noticed, Android isn't exactly short on applications, through MX Player can play just about anything you can throw at it and BT Mice/Keyboards have been possible for a year or 3 now.

So what am I getting excited about again?

 

[cHodAX]

<sigh>

Does Android have 'proper' applications that you can do meaningful work on? No, they are apps, light applications with limited use on platforms with very limited processing power. Yes it has MXplayer but there is quite alot of stuff it doesn't play and even then you are reliant on a version that works on your ARM implementation without even addressing if the GPU is properly supported. x86 and Win8 will do away with that by having a more unified driver model unlike the fragmented mess that is Android. x86 coding is also the most widely used and understood on the planet, stuff like VLC/XBMC/MPC and a *billion other programs can be quickly and easily ported due to already using an x86 codebase and DirectX coded graphics.

As time goes on Android is only becoming more fragmented, apps only supporting Jellybean are already appearing and it is a problem that grows with every new release. With Win 8 Microsoft control the entire eco-system, much like Apple do with theirs, this offers increased compatability but also increased performance because they aren't having to support dozens of different flavours and versions. Then you have the Intel factor, they will have 22nm down to a fine art before anyone else in just a few months time infact, better still their 14nm process is already at a highly advance stage and will be ready for primetime in under 2 years, that will be at least 18 months before any other FAB owning chip maker on the planet. The smaller processes offer higher clockspeeds at lower power, in short order they will have mobile parts that obliterate anything ARM can have manufactured for them by 3rd parties. Yes there is x86 for Android and it works fine but we are all well aware that Intel and Microsoft have a huge agenda to keep x86 alive, their fortunes are very much tied together. Windows Phone on x86 is always going to be superior to Android on x86 for that reason, without Intel there could be no Windows and without Windows Intel would be a much smaller entity.

My point about Bluetooth keyboards and mice connected to my phone which is connected to my TV via mini-hdmi remains, it will most likely be the only phone platform with the possibility of real applications that business demands with the MS Office Suite. Now that Microsoft are in the phone and tablet business they are not going to share the crown jewels until they retain a serious share of the mobile market.

If you aren't excited then fine, I am not going to argue the point with you, each to their own. What I am doing is extolling the virtues of an x86 phone platform with high performance and a Windows based O/S.