Which is the actual easy mode setup ?

Which is teh actual easy mode setup ?

  • [HIB] typical support-BM-BM-eld-hero/champ bg

    Votes: 48 12.8%
  • [HIB] typical support BM-caster-eld-hero/champ bg

    Votes: 22 5.9%
  • [MID] 2 healer-sham-warr bg- bd pd5-sm moc3-2tanks

    Votes: 151 40.2%
  • [MID] typical support - bd pd5- 3 tanks BL

    Votes: 88 23.4%
  • [ALB]2 cler-friar bg-sorc-theur-2 merc-pally bg

    Votes: 33 8.8%
  • [ALB]2 clerc-friar bg-sorc-caba-2merc-pally bg

    Votes: 34 9.0%

  • Total voters
    376
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Jupiter

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Dreami said:
Eh... two people grappling same target good playing? I'm not saying it was Jupiter who was the other one.

well the set-up we run i'm the only grapplemaster
 

Xxcalibur

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my opinion about wardens grapplers :


grapple one fat troll zerker > do another thing :)
 

Grund

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problem is that with semi decent 3 man assist train u cant grapple 1 cus other 2 will eat u alive in most cases :/
 

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Dreami said:
Eh... two people grappling same target good playing? I'm not saying it was Jupiter who was the other one.

nah i said when 'they' grapple well :p

Ofc 2 Grapplers targeting you sucks :)
 

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Grund said:
problem is that with semi decent 3 man assist train u cant grapple 1 cus other 2 will eat u alive in most cases :/

yeah thats the situation where BG counts :)

Buit say theres 2 Mercs in the assist train, its okay to grapple both etc
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
Stop being an asshole you Skald (SoS!) chasing noob.
Time to come up with something different, you've used that quite a number of times now!
Funny being called a noob after having played about 3-4 times as long as you, and doing a hell of a lot better :E
 

Steveh

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Kanim said:
providing the casters play well you can get away with only 1 bg and warden is fine providing it can strafe as you said :), we ran the same setup you use atm and imo 2 bainshees, bm, (champ/bm/druid/bard/bainshee) + typical support is a lot better.

regarding the easiest setup, it is without doubt mid but I guess that was never in doubt, bds and moc3 on melee immune casters is incredibly balanced.

yesterday GoA GM invited our warden into his battle group and asked him to stop straeefing becouse he got bann forever. so now if you dotn want to be banned finsih straefing. our warden is rr11 and we dont want to lose him becouse some stupid who reported him and recorded him is cant hit a style on our warden .... maan strafe is part of the game like emotes lol. so finsih it if you dotn want to be banned

we changed the group Ml paths and now the champion doing bodyguard , warden just going out and manna leech everything.....


so sad
 

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Edlina said:
Check the chatbox? Straef says something in a language you don't understand
Doesn't necisarilly say anything ;p Even tho it does seem to be me, I just can't recall that group. I thought he was on about monday, but that screeny is from before that. I was on about them losing to my pug group, but I guess they purge any negative memories :<
Konstantin said:
lol pwnd straef
Very :<
Xxcalibur said:
m8 root from shamy in this patch is 0.75 sec for meh
You managed to calculate that? :<
Conjurus said:
IT WASNT ME IT WAS THE OTHER STRAEF YELLING!! BELIEVE ME!!!!! :<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Good job noticing something already mentioned! Always did think you were a bit... slow :(
Dreami said:
Have you ever tried to play assisttank yourself? It is quite simple aye, but most likely too complicated for your PvE skills :)
Even I can do it!
Dreami said:
Hohoho, how many times have you played your (mind) sorc in a proper group? Never? :)
How often have you solo'ed? ...
Steveh said:
yesterday GoA GM invited our warden into his battle group and asked him to stop straeefing becouse he got bann forever. so now if you dotn want to be banned finsih straefing. our warden is rr11 and we dont want to lose him becouse some stupid who reported him and recorded him is cant hit a style on our warden .... maan strafe is part of the game like emotes lol. so finsih it if you dotn want to be banned

we changed the group Ml paths and now the champion doing bodyguard , warden just going out and manna leech everything.....


so sad
Afaik strafing, however anoying it may be, isn't against the CoC, unless you somehow fuck with the game mechanics, so either your warden did something that isn't allowed, other than strafing, or that GM is retarded :I
 

Steveh

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Straef said:
Afaik strafing, however anoying it may be, isn't against the CoC, unless you somehow fuck with the game mechanics, so either your warden did something that isn't allowed, other than strafing, or that GM is retarded :I

some alb group made video about when he straefing when bg something. he didnt used any other help just strafe.

the GM said he can run in circle and he can strafe but if he do this two ting in the same time he got a lovely bann
 

Straef

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Steveh said:
some alb group made video about when he straefing when bg something. he didnt used any other help just strafe.

the GM said he can run in circle and he can strafe but if he do this two ting in the same time he got a lovely bann
First time I hear something like that coming from a GM. I don't think he could (well, I'm sure he could, but wouldn't be allowed to) ban over something like that. If it turns out to be impossible to hit the warden, or if he flies all over the place, I can understand, but if it's anything like the strafing I've encountered on Prydwen it's not all that bad.
 

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Xxcalibur said:
i would like to see all straffers banned too ^^

I strafe and run around turning when i play a caster against a tank so they miss/get oov/hit unstyled etc... just like a tank will run through abuse when i use moc.

you telling me that everyone that runs through me can be reported to get a ban if strafers can?

Anyways, i will keep strafing you mr zerger :p
 

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Steveh said:
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the GM said he can run in circle and he can strafe but if he do this two ting in the same time he got a lovely bann
interesting to know, if this is true some grps should reconsider their tactics :>
 

Conjurus

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Straef said:
Good job noticing something already mentioned! Always did think you were a bit... slow :(

Yupp and as always you try to dodge the real issue by making such a childish comment. I will have to call you a liar once again since you wont admit you were there.
 

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Steveh said:
some alb group made video about when he straefing when bg something. he didnt used any other help just strafe.

the GM said he can run in circle and he can strafe but if he do this two ting in the same time he got a lovely bann

Heh that GM needs to get a reality check. Lag strafing is not considered as bugabusing or against the CoC in any way.

My guess is that he has been pwnd by your warden to many times on his char he plays "normally".
 

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Conjurus said:
Yupp and as always you try to dodge the real issue by making such a childish comment. I will have to call you a liar once again since you wont admit you were there.
I did actually admit it, read the rest of my post. Can I call you an idiot now for missing it?
Exactly who is dodging the real issue anyway, when I start about Xxcal getting ganked by a pug, after which someone shows a piccy where they got outnumbered, which was one or two days before that night, rather than admitting it/not responding? Instead of just saying 'Yes, we should all /del y e s' I get to see a fancy piccy which didn't even have anything to do with that night, or the group I was in.
 

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Steveh said:
yesterday GoA GM invited our warden into his battle group and asked him to stop straeefing becouse he got bann forever. so now if you dotn want to be banned finsih straefing. our warden is rr11 and we dont want to lose him becouse some stupid who reported him and recorded him is cant hit a style on our warden .... maan strafe is part of the game like emotes lol. so finsih it if you dotn want to be banned

thats how german gms work steveh :D:D:D
got warned for "strafing - bug abuse" in the first place, then certain people from alb/mid contacted me saying that they have video of me strafing and i should stop or else ... xD - never stopped strafing ofcourse :p
i never got banned ofcourse or anything it was just a pack of lies, working as intended etc




- on a sidenote : why doesnt anyone mention 2x banshee + 2x grapplebot setup? or did i skip a lot of pages ? :E
 

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Corran said:
I strafe and run around turning when i play a caster against a tank so they miss/get oov/hit unstyled etc... just like a tank will run through abuse when i use moc.

you telling me that everyone that runs through me can be reported to get a ban if strafers can?

Anyways, i will keep strafing you mr zerger :p

i have np if your grp members straffe ^^ you will die anyway :)
 

charmangle

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No not really...

Brite said:
warlock bombing can be very powerful, banelord on 2 casters, have bd to twf and warlock ui pbs + chambers aswell as BL bomb will insta kill a zerg, easy to do aswell, HoA pull it off in US despite being poor players, the problem is no one will want to play a warlock and it will be a 1 trick pony setup not good in 8 vs 8

Corran said:
Mid lacking in towers?

Insta AOE stun + 2-3BG'd SM's using PBAOE ? I wouldnt say that lacking anything.

First off...
You are talking about inside the tower or out in open combat (as I already said mid are strong at) (HoA is never seen standign on the battlments trying to fight the mob off!:). How would you feel like having to wait until every tower/keep you have are destroyed before you can defend ?
(Have you ever tried repairing a lvl 10 tower/keep ?)

Defending the tower on tower battlement against longer range, higher damage rouges, longer range spammed ae messes and red NS casters is just a waste of time.

Secondly warlock/sm/bd bombs means absolutly nothing after a while with shrooms/banshees/aemesses up the wassoo...

For example:
Bomber group boxes by side of stair in a tower: shroomers stand below throwing away gzillion shrooms above headline (breaking the rules I know but it happens in every tower fight). The shrooms will get the moc down and after, that group is interrupted to hell. And a single banshee will take out the defence crew.
(Exactly the same cenario if defending at roof in a keep)

Or inside a keep:
Defence boxes in small room before lord. Shrooms start to spam the room interrupts banshee enters kills the bombers + the support since his ae hits entire small room + lord room at the same time.

Also: And dont get me started on courtyard defence...
Its soooo much fun to walk into a courtyard finding 150 shrooms from 2-3 banshees and 1 banshee sneaking around back killing off 60+ people coz of the interrupts from shrooms.

All this while fighting baselinestunners from the roof.

What does mid have that comes even close to matching that ?

/Charmangle

ps. One possiblity would maybe be a 7 people warlock group not sure how that would work. But its hardly a point since noone will ever try it just for keep defence ? ds.
 

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my sorc dosent have any stun and only blue mez what is resisted much times and i dont really have to use my root to becouse most of the tower campers / raiders are not a well setted groups . They always mis something and i always can find many enemy who can 2-3 shotted without any CC

many times they found the nuke on them when the secound DD is off and i have much time to land the third dd and somethimes the 4th DD to.
animist cant do to much in keep defence only shrooming , banshee are powerfull you have to kill them fast and problem sorted.
 

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Steveh said:
my sorc dosent have any stun and only blue mez what is resisted much times and i dont really have to use my root to becouse most of the tower campers / raiders are not a well setted groups . They always mis something and i always can find many enemy who can 2-3 shotted without any CC

many times they found the nuke on them when the secound DD is off and i have much time to land the third dd and somethimes the 4th DD to.
animist cant do to much in keep defence only shrooming , banshee are powerfull you have to kill them fast and problem sorted.

Get some levels of MoF?
 

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Xxcalibur said:
i have np if your grp members straffe ^^ you will die anyway :)
At least you're confident :rolleyes:
Steveh said:
my sorc dosent have any stun and only blue mez what is resisted much times and i dont really have to use my root to becouse most of the tower campers / raiders are not a well setted groups . They always mis something and i always can find many enemy who can 2-3 shotted without any CC

many times they found the nuke on them when the secound DD is off and i have much time to land the third dd and somethimes the 4th DD to.
animist cant do to much in keep defence only shrooming , banshee are powerfull you have to kill them fast and problem sorted.
Drop the fotm body spec and go mind if you actually want mez to land? :/
Animists can actually nuke rather hard. I've been hit for around 600 dmg by animist dd, while the average bainshee hits me for 300-400, with the ocasional exception doing 500ish. Another thing about the animists is that their dd's tend to all hit at the same time due to poor pathing, which doesn't work in my favour, to say the least :p
 

Steveh

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no i dont want mez ,i suxs in that :)

i just f8- nuke nuke nuke f8 nuke nuke nuke , like Remis in the old days :)
 

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Steveh said:
no i dont want mez ,i suxs in that :)

i just f8- nuke nuke nuke f8 nuke nuke nuke , like Remis in the old days :)


haha :m00:
 
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