Which class takes most skill to play?

[Tsabo]

I've played a fair few classes and on both pvp and rvr servers.

I see alot of people saying sorcs are easy to play when they aren't that easy. Granted if you're RR5+ it is alot easier, but lower RR's it is just as hard as the next class.

My Hero has just got BG and I have to say that isn't particularly easy to use and play with.

But I think the class that has it the toughest imo is a Bard, they have so much to do in a group, they are the mezer, backup healer, the interuptions, the end/power chants and the de-mezzer. So many things to try and do at once. The only other class that I think that has to multitask as much is a BG Warden.

Easiest, Bonedancer, any day... I have soloed thid keep doors with my lvl 24 fully SC/Buffed BD(obviously when there was no enemies about). I have taken down a chanter and a tank solo without any pets up. I have done lvl 30-31 solo over night whilst afk! They are a ridiculous class and there is no justification to give the realm, that already gives their pbae class a pet that intercepts and their primary CC chain mail with 2k hp a load of insta cc including ae stun and inst ae stun, a caster that has 3 pets 2 of which make sure he's on full hp all the time insta life tap and a dd that can be done at the same time as the insta LT.

 

[Danamyr]

friar bg > pala bg

Why? Not flaming, just curious...because I don't see it myself.

 

[Tsabo]

Why? Not flaming, just curious...because I don't see it myself.

They have their own haste/end so great to interupt, they are a backup healer, they can help out with the base buffs, and most importantly, you get the 3 group resists that most alb groups run without

 

[Danamyr]

They have their own haste/end so great to interupt, they are a backup healer, they can help out with the base buffs, and most importantly, you get the 3 group resists that most alb groups run without

Their end doesn't benefit the group; granted, not as important nowadays with Tireless, but nonetheless. I recognised their heal possibilities when I read VF's post, so I accept that...my heal chant doesn't compare, that's for sure

Resists pwn all, so again I can accept that as well. Oh well

 

[Deadnala]

bards are 2 button classes, press speed and when they see the enemy press insta mezz so its not hard to play them

Clueless reply tbh.

Ontopic: Bard = need skillz

 

[wutae]

I have heard many peeps saying hardest class is bard.
many peeps speak w/o even ever played a serious made character .
i have played after ToA , only fire wizz , minstrel , cleric ,
and i have figured from all 3 minstrel is ofc the hardest .
i will not compare to any other class as i dont have the REAL
knowledge of saying what is the hardest class to be played .
but i am willing to tell ya how many ACTIVE QBs i use .


1.QB
1.amethyst
2.backslash
3.DD
4.DD
5.stun
6.confuze
7.mezz
8.aoe mezz
9.speed
10.stealth

2.QB
1.demezz
2.battler (use)
3.malice (use)
4.ML resistance
5.phaseshift
6.ground target
7.FZ
8.sos
9.purge
10.ablative

3.QB
1.IP
2.AM

ps.1 most of them r in quick binds . to differennt buttons .
ps.2 i have ofc some others buttons i use but r not IN battle
ps.3 sooo we have 22 active buttons . that in 90% of a serious
battle i will use them all . now plz tell me and feel my unknowledge
if there is a class with MORE active buttons to press.
and plz dont give for example a light tank with ALL styles
and ALL mls as active buttons >.<
as i said i use seriously almost all buttons i just mentioned .
and No my buttons except QB1 are not like i mentioned. they
r mostly to different positions >.<

 

[wutae]

i would also like to mention what r the job of a minstrel .

1. stun the opponent main cc in enc.
2. sos ofc
3. ablative . ml resistance
4. interrupt with dd , second dd , confuze the casters
5. FZ the BG
6. stun the MA's target .
7. counter effect twf with AM
8. battler charge the MA's target
9. demezz
10. single mezz opponents after the first mezz duration leaves


ofc main job is to interrupt. and ofc all of the 10 things i just mentioned
have to be done at the same time .
maybe forgot 1-2 things but who cares ? as these are a minstrel's main job .
i maybe dont know if there are any other classes with more.. i just mentioned
my jobs. and i would like to hear from other classes if they have more
and which are they . so we could compare >.<
SOoooo we can have the best answer for this thread's question

 

[Raven]

mincers, hard, riiiight, 2 and a bit QBs, wow, i use twice that on my hero and wouldnt really consider it that much of a hard class to play.

 

[wutae]

read better m8 >.<
i have 4.5 QBs. as i mentioned these r the active ones >.<

u can for example have 1 QB and 3 bars with potions >.<
that doesnt make ya active bars

ohh and i never said hardest,,
i just mentioning mine so we could compare ;p

 

[Platin]

Why? Not flaming, just curious...because I don't see it myself.

Static thingie, resists, damage, heal and rezz.

I don't think they can block arrows though, I bet they'll get a ping pong ra soon tho so they can like bash em off with their staff or something...OP bastards.

 

[Neffneff]

tbh i USE more QBars than that on my druid...doesn't make my class an uber hard class to play (though it aint the easiest by far)

and if i was to count arti charges, FoP, FoH and things like that, i'd prolly have a list almost twice the size.

put yer E-peen away and go insta stun/FZ a solo caster somewhere

 

[Jaem-]

Sorc lifetap is too strong, it beats my Level 11 Zubat's one.

Thought I'd share a whine, bored.

 

[vintervargen]

single root
ae root
single heal
spreadheal
insta heal
insta grpheal
cure nearsight
cure dot
grp cure disease
cure ressickness
pet attack
shear dex
shear dex/qui
shear con
shear str
shear str/con
shear acuity
base str
base dex
base con
str/con
dex/qui
haste
acuity
resurrect
fop
purge
gp
moc
mcl
rp
power pots
zo'arkat
band of stars

nurt druid in ToA was far harder then bard (imo)

 

[Vodkafairy]

summon pet

ml9 pet

pet attack

dot

root

its so, sooo hard

 

[Helme]

Why? Not flaming, just curious...because I don't see it myself.

Because friar brings resists aswell as decent healing to a group, the resists is prolly the best thing instead of getting 2-3 shotted you get 3-5 shotted

 

[occy]

e rm

h assisting merc

 

[Calo]

I have heard many peeps saying hardest class is bard.
many peeps speak w/o even ever played a serious made character .
i have played after ToA , only fire wizz , minstrel , cleric ,
and i have figured from all 3 minstrel is ofc the hardest .
i will not compare to any other class as i dont have the REAL
knowledge of saying what is the hardest class to be played .
but i am willing to tell ya how many ACTIVE QBs i use .


1.QB
1.amethyst
2.backslash
3.DD
4.DD
5.stun
6.confuze
7.mezz
8.aoe mezz
9.speed
10.stealth

2.QB
1.demezz
2.battler (use)
3.malice (use)
4.ML resistance
5.phaseshift
6.ground target
7.FZ
8.sos
9.purge
10.ablative

3.QB
1.IP
2.AM

ps.1 most of them r in quick binds . to differennt buttons .
ps.2 i have ofc some others buttons i use but r not IN battle
ps.3 sooo we have 22 active buttons . that in 90% of a serious
battle i will use them all . now plz tell me and feel my unknowledge
if there is a class with MORE active buttons to press.
and plz dont give for example a light tank with ALL styles
and ALL mls as active buttons >.<
as i said i use seriously almost all buttons i just mentioned .
and No my buttons except QB1 are not like i mentioned. they
r mostly to different positions >.<

n/o but if u use all those stuff in a 1VS1 fight u just CANT lose tbh.

 

[ebenezer]

What is the meaning of a hard class to play anyways....??
Alot of people seem to think its hard cause u have many different buttons u have to press during combat
lol...u can make a hero very hard if u want to as well....il just add every style in the book to q-bar and everyone will say: Hey ur uber at playing hero...u have to press so many buttons at once^^
I play my bard mostly in rvr....i wouldnt say he is harder then my hero to play....it all depends on how u play ur bard or character. The hardest with playing bard is that ur expected to do a milion of things during a rvr session...thats all thats making it hard really.
Cant really see how u can compare classes like that since everyone plays it differently tbh

 

[Muylaetrix]

As an ice wiz, a pbaoe class without stun, mezz, neartsight, pet, debuffs, whatever, it`s easy to fit all your action spells on a single bar.

baseline fire bolt, qcast, root, ae-dd, pbaoe, debuff-dd, dd, brittle guard, WoF, MoC.

So few toys to play with, it is damn hard to play decently. without a few clerics and a BG tank to baby sit me, ice wizards are rather gimped compared to fire wizards realy.

Few butons doesn`t mean easy imho.

Now, the clerics and the tank who try to keep me alive, they have a damn hard job, lol.

it`s all relative really.

 

[Luona]

hardest to play armsman

 

[waok`whips]

qbar1 - |qbind2| |qbind3| |dd| |dot| |aura| |aura| |ma| |asp| |levi| |slam|
qbar2 - |qbind1| |gt1450| |gt750| |gt50| |ml1| |ml9| |twf| |ml8| |sq| |purge|
qbar3 - |qbind1| |viper chain| |indigo chain| |malamis| |end pot| |SoM| |SCW|
qbar4 - |qbind1| |engage| |guard| |slam| |aoe aura(blue)| |aoe aura(yel)| |aoe aura(blue)| |aoe aura(yel)| |aoe dd(blue)| |aoe dd(yel)|

I normally use all those bars in most fights, but that doesnt make me a better player than anyone else just coz I use so many bars.. as ebenezer said, everyone plays their class differently, so why should that make the class any harder than anyother to play? ;p

 

[[NO]Subedai]

i use 1 qbar.
rest qbinds.

 

[roovah]

i use 1 qbar.
rest qbinds.

you use joystick morbus

 

[Tsabo]

1.QB
1.amethyst
2.backslash
3.DD
4.DD
5.stun
6.confuze
7.mezz
8.aoe mezz
9.speed
10.stealth

2.QB
1.demezz
2.battler (use)
3.malice (use)
4.ML resistance
5.phaseshift
6.ground target
7.FZ
8.sos
9.purge
10.ablative

3.QB
1.IP
2.AM

That it? My Sorc QBars, all active...

1st
1. Self Buff
2. Self Buff
3. Self Buff
4. Self Buff
5. PoM
6. Pet Charm
7. Water Pot
8. Brittle Guard
9. Mez reduce Chant
10. Speed Chant

2nd
1. QC
2. ZE Mez
3. Purge
4. Amnesia
5. AE Root
6. Single Root
7. Pet Attack
8. Pet Passive
9. Demez
10. insta ae str/con debuff

3rd
1. LT
2. QC
3. Spec body dd
4. Tarts
5. AE Root
6. Single Root
7. Pet attack
8. Pet Passive
9. Dex Debuff
10. Quick/Dex Debuff

4th
1. GT Set 0 Macro
2. - 10. Convoker ML Abilities

5th
1. Power Pot
2. MCL 2
3. End Pot
4. - 10. Artis such as CB etc

And that is missing out the bar i have which has 4 spells on purely for charming a mob that is in the middle of a load of agro

 

[Milky]

That it? My Sorc QBars, all active...

1st
1. Self Buff
2. Self Buff
3. Self Buff
4. Self Buff
5. PoM
6. Pet Charm
7. Water Pot
8. Brittle Guard
9. Mez reduce Chant
10. Speed Chant

2nd
1. QC
2. ZE Mez
3. Purge
4. Amnesia
5. AE Root
6. Single Root
7. Pet Attack
8. Pet Passive
9. Demez
10. insta ae str/con debuff

3rd
1. LT
2. QC
3. Spec body dd
4. Tarts
5. AE Root
6. Single Root
7. Pet attack
8. Pet Passive
9. Dex Debuff
10. Quick/Dex Debuff

4th
1. GT Set 0 Macro
2. - 10. Convoker ML Abilities

5th
1. Power Pot
2. MCL 2
3. End Pot
4. - 10. Artis such as CB etc

And that is missing out the bar i have which has 4 spells on purely for charming a mob that is in the middle of a load of agro

Delete double-used abilities and the useless ones and you're already down to 3 Quickbars. Then think of the fact that you use quickbar nr.1 only once in 10 minutes and thus hardly could be called 'active' and you're down to 2 quickbars- which is acceptable.

Myself, I only use 1 quickbar in combat and I have a second for the shield-crap. Running through 5 quickbars in a fight should be quite funny, but I doubt it enhances your play. Much easier, I think, is just to qbind a load of your spells.

btw, do you actually have to switch quickbars to start nuking after you have mezzed? That seems like a waste of time really

 

[Arthur]

That it? My Sorc QBars, all active...

1st
1. Self Buff
2. Self Buff
3. Self Buff
4. Self Buff
5. PoM
6. Pet Charm
7. Water Pot
8. Brittle Guard
9. Mez reduce Chant
10. Speed Chant

2nd
1. QC
2. ZE Mez
3. Purge
4. Amnesia
5. AE Root
6. Single Root
7. Pet Attack
8. Pet Passive
9. Demez
10. insta ae str/con debuff

3rd
1. LT
2. QC
3. Spec body dd
4. Tarts
5. AE Root
6. Single Root
7. Pet attack
8. Pet Passive
9. Dex Debuff
10. Quick/Dex Debuff

4th
1. GT Set 0 Macro
2. - 10. Convoker ML Abilities

5th
1. Power Pot
2. MCL 2
3. End Pot
4. - 10. Artis such as CB etc

And that is missing out the bar i have which has 4 spells on purely for charming a mob that is in the middle of a load of agro

lol, thats a little ott, you can play a sorc from 1 active qb and one secondary one for selfbuffs etc providing u qb some abilites ofc. Myself, I use 2 on shaman, 3 if someone needs rebuffing mid fight, 4 if I need to heal which is rare.

 

[Tulkos]

i just try to fit as much as possible on the one qb and use qbinds done me well so far with the rest of the things i dont use as often on another qb. worked okay for me so far.

 

[Bracken]

hardest to play armsman

I agree...think of all the QBars we need!!! Ones for styles, RAs, MLs, potions, items / crossbow and siege equipment. And we use ALL of them every fight

 

[occy]

i use 1 qbar.
rest qbinds.

qbar 1 1 charge
qbar 1 2 anytime
qbind sprint?

:wub:

 

[Tsabo]

btw, do you actually have to switch quickbars to start nuking after you have mezzed? That seems like a waste of time really

I either CC or I DD, I dont mix when in a group. I will only nuke if desperately needed but during a grp vs grp fight i will normally be root spamming/amnesia spamming.

And all of those I listed are useful spells, apart from perhaps 2-3 of the MLs.