Ensceptificamuralya
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lol yes boost the paladin. Afterall, they were on par with the warden, are now twice as good after some patches, on to 4 times as good imo.
Hotrats said:The RA change may well bring GP to alb which is a huge start in forming a strong pbae group, but it doesn't change the fact alb needs about 12 classes to get all the utility of a hib pbae group.
yes, true mate, but paladin need purge for 4 points, ip 8, VP too? and pet, paladin need orange pet...Hercules-DF said:IMO i think the following needs to happen to the classes ive played a fiar bit
Paladin.
Up the dmg,
Sort out twisting 4 keys + running around + styles is too much hassle
some sort of morph for 50 chants, Archangel, or Destiny Knight a realm ability perhaps.
If Det is not totally removed from the game as i think it should be let pallys get it
Wizard.
Kill Earth spec
Put Aoe root and dot into ice
Put Earth Bolt into fire and aoe snare
Give both specs the high lvl gtaoe.
Perhaps put the Ice base DD into spec for slightly more dmg
This way the fire wiz becomes the DAMAGE MONSTER it should be. 3 bolts OH MY
and the ice wiz gets some util and a nice single dot to put on enemy pbaoers b4 getting to them
Top level gtaoe aint gonna make either spec uber so may as well chuck it in
Necros should be nerfed in PVE by making the mana drain 30 sec timer or something
Ensceptificamuralya said:lol yes boost the paladin. Afterall, they were on par with the warden, are now twice as good after some patches, on to 4 times as good imo.
agreeAnd druids are better then clerics....
heroes are better then armsman....
eldritch better then wizard....
enchanter better then cabalist....
merc are better then blademasterPuppet said:And druids are better then clerics....
heroes are better then armsman....
eldritch better then wizard....
enchanter better then cabalist....
Raven said:does it really matter for you albs, even if you had 5 uber over powered classes you wouls still camp amg
Knudden said:merc are better then blademaster
sorc are better then menta
cleric are better then druid (well my cleric would kick my druids ass anytime have better insta (same lvl insta) and more timer buffs+ better armor larger shield
armsmen are better then hero's (take a look at there armor and what dmg type used the most and there special ra's)
infil better then nightshade
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Knudden said:merc are better then blademaster
sorc are better then menta
cleric are better then druid (well my cleric would kick my druids ass anytime have better insta (same lvl insta) and more timer buffs+ better armor larger shield
armsmen are better then hero's (take a look at there armor and what dmg type used the most and there special ra's)
Knudden said:merc are better then blademaster
sorc are better then menta
cleric are better then druid (well my cleric would kick my druids ass anytime have better insta (same lvl insta) and more timer buffs+ better armor larger shield
armsmen are better then hero's (take a look at there armor and what dmg type used the most and there special ra's)
infil better then nightshade
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Then why spec it?Lejemorder said:giv something at 50 enha, coz it r stupid that we dont get anything at 50 enha.
Nooo! Don't "review" Cabalists, we know what that means and it can only make us worse. After this patch's changes, Cabalists are fine (at least spirit Cabalists, but many classes have only one viable specline anyway).Freppe said:What mythic should review on is chars like Mentalists, Champions, Animists, Valewalkers, Thanes, Runemasters, Cabalists, Wizards.
Garbannoch said:The problem is that a group has 8 slots - it doesnt matter how much Mythic tries to balance classes there will always be 'better' ones and then those who don't have a (important) role and therefore won't get a group.
Freppe said:Giving all tanks Determination, doesnt matter if theyre hybrids or whatever, giving it to everyone, would in my point, make these ungrped tanks nowdays, a far better chance to get a group.
Ensceptificamuralya said:What would help far better is for people to stop standing around in DL for 2 hours waiting for a det tank when there's 30 non-det tanks yelling lfg, and try out stuff themselves instead of following the fotm trends. These days I just leave groups if there's that kind of fotm attitude in it. Had a group with 3 valewalkers as tanks last night, and it did by far better than any rvr guild fotm det-tank group I've ever seen or been in. And that wasn't the best thing about it. The best thing was that the people in the group were actually eager to try it out.
Freppe said:Ppl are elitists and want to win, to have a non-det tank in grp will make the chance of winning lower. Thats how it is! And will allways be until they do smth about it.
"What would help far better is for people to stop standing around in DL for 2 hours waiting for a det tank when there's 30 non-det tanks yelling lfg, and try out stuff themselves instead of following the fotm trends. These days I just leave groups if there's that kind of fotm attitude in it. Had a group with 3 valewalkers as tanks last night, and it did by far better than any rvr guild fotm det-tank group I've ever seen or been in. And that wasn't the best thing about it. The best thing was that the people in the group were actually eager to try it out."
- Ensceptificamuralya
Chanter has had pbae and high ranged damage for a long long time, the debuff, at last, took a nerf this patch but the main problem for alb is the heat nuke still does high damage unless you have friar resists, but at least having friar resists makes a difference this patch (after being debuffed). Alb is cursed as the only realm to not get all 6 resist buffs; although hib groups might not always group a warden if it did not have resist buffs the fact it also brings pbt to the group is at least an additional incentive to group one. Lack of determination is probably the sole reason albs don't take 1 friar in every group, a lack of determination as a support class is acceptable (especially if that group has GP), but as a tank even if you bring a little utility not having det is a major factor. Of course the RA review may change this (hopefully ).liloe said:hmm...Hotrats, I can't agree with all your points. PBAE ca be used very well as an offensive weapon, as 3 pbae's will create HUGE dmg output in let's say 2 blasts. I've downloaded a TB video with body / mind sorc (last cold debuff) and it seems very viable to me.
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...... which would give ice wizzys high dmg pbae PLUS a high dmg single nuke, no class has that
A warden should be compared to a friar not a pala, its a lot better than a friar like I already said; swap the friar for the warden, would hib groups still take a friar? (if the friar did body/energy/spirit buffs) possibly tank groups because of GP but very unlikely a caster group would, hence the major problem of putting 83% of resist buffs on support classes then the last set for alb on a hybrid tank, it almost forces albs to lose heat/cold/matter resists when they run any type of caster group.Ensceptificamuralya said:lol yes boost the paladin. Afterall, they were on par with the warden, are now twice as good after some patches, on to 4 times as good imo.
I agree, I just wish they had fixed dps debuff to make that balance even closer, a few weeks before TOA with the best game balance (providing you play the right group setups) we have seen since DaoC release would have been sweet.Garbannoch said:The game as it is now is as balanced as it can get. Take the best possible group setups from each realm and they are fairly equal (keep in mind that there are slight advantages in the following form: hib > alb, alb > mid, mid > hib). But ofc this does not mean that all classes are balanced...
Yes true, but classes like a friar (again) only really bring resist buffs to the pbae group, you could spec it to heal but there just isn't room for it in a alb caster group. Paladin (for end regen) also brings guard but without determination its not very reliable so your also gonna need a shield spec arms. Cabalist for disease, the extra pet is nice and could also use the debuffs for the sorc/theurg.Ola said:Not saying alb mage grps dont need help or anything, but... 12 classes to get all the utility of a hib pbae group? You will get LOADS more utility with those 12 classes, which you fail to mention..
merc and bm are pretty even, TW is very useful vs BoF and to get that extra damage fast, DT is great if you go for tanks first.Knudden said:merc are better then blademaster
sorc are better then menta
cleric are better then druid (well my cleric would kick my druids ass anytime have better insta (same lvl insta) and more timer buffs+ better armor larger shield
armsmen are better then hero's (take a look at there armor and what dmg type used the most and there special ra's)
infil better then nightshade
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A shaman brings 3 very important things to a group; end regen, resist buffs and disease (ranged and insta that interupts!), it also has root, ae root, a long range interupt (bolt) and a DoT. Granted its secondary abilities aren't amazing but a class wearing chain with such utility will NEVER do high damage (a cabalist wears CLOTH armor remember!), as a secondary healing class its heals will also never be very good, QC is cloth only, I would be happy for a shaman to get QC and have to wear cloth armor, very happyHerjulf said:Atm i feel one of the moste gimpy classes allround imo without a doubt is Shaman.
Very sucky heals.
No weapon styles.
No helping self only buffs like Healer have if they go into aug line.
The offensive spec line Cave Magic, is a mere shadow of the cabalist.
Soloing as shaman is not an survival plan.
What shamans need:
A TL
DMG up, they need the a RA similar to that of NS that raises DOT dmg, an active RA.
Overal DMG up on DD, bolt and Dot.
Quickcast.
Snare and more debuffs.
Insta something.. more then a low radius pbaoe disease.
That can interrupt or have a function.
Self only buffs to help the shaman, a grp cast pref chant end regen or buffs. so that they can have use of the croc ring.