Ardamel said:We made holes in Erasleigh, dmged Surs and Hurb for about 30-50P, and generally made it hard for em last evening at Dun Crauchon tower t3. We occupied 10 FGs+ albs for hours, and what do you make of it? Well you went to midgard
Vodkafairy said:You took advantage of albs taking keeps in hib also, so you can't really 'accuse' us of anything, which you couldn't either because of some of your guildies who are extraordinairily skilled at griefing hibs.
Ixu said:Aswell we cut down crim teleport few times tho they was kinda fast but still. And what you want, avkar ?
Vodkafairy said:You took advantage of albs taking keeps in hib also, so you can't really 'accuse' us of anything, which you couldn't either because of some of your guildies who are extraordinairily skilled at griefing hibs.
Anyways, taking back towers and defending them from albs gets dull after a while, always the same classes to fight, always the same zerg shit, sometimes you need a change. That change came in the form of 1-2 fg (?) shooting holes in arvakr until the wall breached because mids didnt repair, took us a few attempts and some reinforcements to eventually take the keep.
Hibs were pushing the limit there, we weren't many people at all, i think it was pretty close to the amount of mids defending in the end. Either way, it was fun to accomplish getting the keep in the end and i hope mids had fun defending also..
stop whining, have fun, jesus christ
at this point i couldnt give a flying fuck anymore about hib relics or keeps, there's obvious reasons why we can't defend anything against albion (lack of leadership and numbers) and ive accepted that until i either find nothing to do anymore (time to quit) or a capable leader stands up from the crowd and leads hibernia (doubt it)
Vodkafairy said:You took advantage of albs taking keeps in hib also, so you can't really 'accuse' us of anything, which you couldn't either because of some of your guildies who are extraordinairily skilled at griefing hibs.
Anyways, taking back towers and defending them from albs gets dull after a while, always the same classes to fight, always the same zerg shit, sometimes you need a change. That change came in the form of 1-2 fg (?) shooting holes in arvakr until the wall breached because mids didnt repair, took us a few attempts and some reinforcements to eventually take the keep.
Hibs were pushing the limit there, we weren't many people at all, i think it was pretty close to the amount of mids defending in the end. Either way, it was fun to accomplish getting the keep in the end and i hope mids had fun defending also..
stop whining, have fun, jesus christ
at this point i couldnt give a flying fuck anymore about hib relics or keeps, there's obvious reasons why we can't defend anything against albion (lack of leadership and numbers) and ive accepted that until i either find nothing to do anymore (time to quit) or a capable leader stands up from the crowd and leads hibernia (doubt it)
[NO]Subedai said:ye but that defeatist attitude makes it all the harder for a leader to arrise and inspire his realm
Vodkafairy said:no shit
i tried to lead and got my 2 days worth of pm'ing guilds trampled by a bigger zerg in 10 mins. then i tried something different and we got wiped by ST3 / twf 3 / reaverbombing. id go back if i knew there was ANY chance in succeeding
and arda, afaik it was FoM who cut off porting to crau?
about the keep, i logged after we took it, dunno what happened after.. but yes rangers can be a pain, just like any other archer for that matter
Vodkafairy said:too many things to reply to T_T
arda i meant albs taking crim the other day, and crau after, when you took the crau tower and stuff
we do need organisation, but i dont feel obliged to always do whats best for the realm, i did my best but failed for reasons i cannot control myself, because on hib side ive never seen so few mistakes for a zerg so big (nearly 100! go hibs!)
but it was all for nothing, so at this point im relaxing a bit doing whatever i enjoy, soon ill see if i can still get hibs to play for me and give it another go... the thing is if taking a single keep is close to impossible with our numbers, what can we do? keep getting disappointed, making alb defence stronger every attempt, and making our morale lower at the same time?
shrug
Ardamel said:We know how you feel, the resignation among the mids after getting fecked over with the double amount of albs for a week, made alot of mids simply quit. FoM lost many old timers and we have in no way recovered from it and this goes for all of Midgard. The biggest amount of mids I've managed to get after that is 120 mids and then I really really tried hard.
The key to success is to do the unexpected and do it coordinated. It only takes 1 FG to grab a lvl 10 tower fast so having several small teams moving around causing commotion and 1 big team for the retaking of keeps does work. Albs don't use much tactics when grabbing keeps, they're just ..... many. If you hit at more than 1 place at the same time they don't split the zerg, they retake it one at the time. Guilds like VGN could farm the alb zerg back to the stone age if they managed to get a tower at DC or Crim to lvl 10, and that would keep 'em occupied so that the more casual players can form a zerg and hit whichever keep/towers they want.
I would also urge you to get yer fellow hibbies to read the "siege warfare for dummies" post in the hib section of this forum. Albs are good at bringing siege whereas mids and hibs are not.
Smilewhenyousaythat said:But for lots of mids quitting that really says more about the character of those players. Always suspected a lot of fotms and players who just wanted the best class/realm upped and went to mid. Alb played without relics for how long? Getting beaten by smaller numbers of more powerful players regularly and yet they stayed. Now Alb has its day int he sun compared to the many months of mid/hib ascendancy and you see the good time hangers on drift away.
vintervargen said:no-no
no-no no-no
no-no no-no
no-no THERE'S NO LIMIT!
Ardamel said:with superior range.
Edaemos said:Hmm did albs pack their bags and quit because insta mezz beat whatever CC they used? no, the superior range thing doesn't wash sorry, only mezz is superior and thats not by much, even then your runie can nearsight them at a greater range, if your unable to find nearsight its in the suppression line.
2 years of insta mezz/insta root/ichor of the deep/savages/stun>nuke from hibby casters with 20% power bonus/Left Axe/3xFZ in a group mids/3or4 grapplers in hibby groups and yet still albs came out to rvr.
Balance shifts and the whines never end.
Like many albs have posted beforehand its nice to see what the enemy is made of when they don't have huge advantages like they did pre-nf.
Ardamel said:Albs also have the archer type with the longest range and theurgists which can bring down doors without having to risk their lives. Ever been hit and gotten the msg: "Your target is too far away to auto-face"? Well let's just say it happens alot these days.
Nearsight is bound be the spell I use the most in keep/tower situations.
Ardamel said:Ever been hit and gotten the msg: "Your target is too far away to auto-face"? Well let's just say it happens alot these days.
Edaemos said:2 years of insta mezz/insta root/ichor of the deep/savages/stun>nuke from hibby casters with 20% power bonus/Left Axe/3xFZ in a group mids/3or4 grapplers in hibby groups and yet still albs came out to rvr.
vintervargen said:i so love to see this crying
Edaemos said:Its not me crying, during those times i didn't come and moan everyday about how unbalanced rvr, but now well, you and your realm mates along with whinegard give us much amusment
Edaemos said:Its not me crying, during those times i didn't come and moan everyday about how unbalanced rvr, but now well, you and your realm mates along with whinegard give us much amusment
Glottis said:so they send 3fgh to take Arvakr I guess.
That is thinking outside the box
Regards, Glottis
Edaemos said:Hunters still have great distance, nearsight range is greater than thurgs pet casting distance.
Edaemos said:Its not me crying, during those times i didn't come and moan everyday about how unbalanced rvr, but now well, you and your realm mates along with whinegard give us much amusment