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[atos]

Clearly, people are of different opinnions. But those who dislike things tend to be rather abusive. But no offence taken.

 

[Golena]

But I asume none of you ever heard of practical jokes, and are probably going to make another try in your pathetic attempts to paint me out as a bad guy.

I've heard of practical jokes, I know what they are. This doesn't fall under that category.
If you need to try and delude yourself that it does so you can sleep at night, then so be it however.

I would have no issues with refounding their expenses if people contacted me and explained their situation.

The people you are scamming will almost certainly have no way of telling which house they bought it off by the time they discover their mistake, and as such have no way of contacting you, and you of course know this. So this lame attempt at justifying why your different to all the other scammers out there really is fooling no-one, sorry.

The only thing this is likely to do is make people wonder why they bother with the game. Yes that's just what we need, more people leaving an already depleated playerbase, just so you can have a cheap laugh. No really, it is!!

 

[charmangle]

haha nice one trollum i completly agree with you. If you don't check the items you buy you deserve it.

Sigh, youll grow up someday too...hopefully.

Its very simple, do not do bad things to others just because you think you can! Because evetually someone will do it to you times hundred and thats a bad world to live in.

/Charmangle

 

[atos]

I've heard of practical jokes, I know what they are. This doesn't fall under that category.
If you need to try and delude yourself that it does so you can sleep at night, then so be it however.

Perhaps it don't for you. But it surely does for me. People are induviduals.

The people you are scamming will almost certainly have no way of telling which house they bought it off by the time they discover their mistake, and as such have no way of contacting you, and you of course know this. So this lame attempt at justifying why your different to all the other scammers out there really is fooling no-one, sorry.

Clearly, you lack the knowledge to express your opinnion about this matter. Theres both a web interface and an ingame command to check the owner of a lot.

The only thing this is likely to do is make people wonder why they bother with the game. Yes that's just what we need, more people leaving an already depleated playerbase, just so you can have a cheap laugh. No really, it is!!

So I would have unknowingly made people quit? That is bullshit. People are not leaveing the game because of trivial matters like that. If they decide to stop playing because of that. There is clearly something else to it. Possible reasons could be, zerging, adding and general whine.


Hope I answered all your questions with that.

 

[atos]

Sigh, youll grow up someday too...hopefully.

Its very simple, do not do bad things to others just because you think you can! Because evetually someone will do it to you times hundred and thats a bad world to live in.

/Charmangle

Actually I know I can since it was proven it worked. You can't change how people are. You can complain. But in this case honestly its not a huge deal. People just sucked it in and didnt contact me or even made any attempts to contact guildies. Clearly you don't do that irl.

 

[Sigwyen]

Well Trollum for ppl to contact u they would need to remember the house lot in order to look it up .. lets say for instance that they bought the barrels in good faith put them on the q-bar .. used it once worked fine and the next time they where using it ... empty ... and then they would do shift + i/n depending on keyboard settings etc ... and i surely as hell at that point wouldnt remember a house lot number

And making a practycal joke on somebody is okay in my opinion if u stood there frapping them or what ever ... but u didnt do that at all .. u didnt try to contact them and that my friend makes this a scam

U maybe tought of this as a joke .. but trust me it was a bad one and u clearly didnt think this trough

In a perfekt world we could all trust everybody and never have to do shift + i but sadly this isnt a perfect world as u so clearly state.

/Mirk

 

[Agony]

So I would have unknowingly made people quit? That is bullshit. People are not leaveing the game because of trivial matters like that. If they decide to stop playing because of that. There is clearly something else to it. Possible reasons could be, zerging, adding and general whine.


Hope I answered all your questions with that.

well it might be one of the reason for ppl the quit that someone scammed their last money etc. combine that whit all other stuff like zerging adding wanking whatever u want it to be,I dont know why you are being so thickheaded, There´s nothing fun whit scamming ppls money.U said you would have done the same thing irl if u could, most certenly you would get fucked up irl for scamming ppl.

 

[atos]

well it might be one of the reason for ppl the quit that someone scammed their last money etc. combine that whit all other stuff like zerging adding wanking whatever u want it to be,I dont know why you are being so thickheaded, There´s nothing fun whit scamming ppls money.U said you would have done the same thing irl if u could, most certenly you would get fucked up irl for scamming ppl.

Now, you clearly don't understand what I wrote, or you are just thickheaded.

Do you even realise how easy it is to obtain money ingame these days? I've handed out plats to several new people on many occations. So I've done my fair share to help new people. So its not really the money you are upset about is it? It's about the actual deed ofc. But as I explained before and I cba to repeat myself again. Take a look at my previous posts.

 

[Agony]

Now, you clearly don't understand what I wrote, or you are just thickheaded.

Do you even realise how easy it is to obtain money ingame these days? I've handed out plats to several new people on many occations. So I've done my fair share to help new people. So its not really the money you are upset about is it? It's about the actual deed ofc. But as I explained before and I cba to repeat myself again. Take a look at my previous posts.

so so you gave some newb money and that makes it OK to scamm other people ? is that what youre saying ?

 

[Belomar]

Go go go, keep on rationalizing your fucked up behavior!

 

[atos]

Well Trollum for ppl to contact u they would need to remember the house lot in order to look it up .. lets say for instance that they bought the barrels in good faith put them on the q-bar .. used it once worked fine and the next time they where using it ... empty ... and then they would do shift + i/n depending on keyboard settings etc ... and i surely as hell at that point wouldnt remember a house lot number

And making a practycal joke on somebody is okay in my opinion if u stood there frapping them or what ever ... but u didnt do that at all .. u didnt try to contact them and that my friend makes this a scam

U maybe tought of this as a joke .. but trust me it was a bad one and u clearly didnt think this trough

In a perfekt world we could all trust everybody and never have to do shift + i but sadly this isnt a perfect world as u so clearly state.

/Mirk

Well all I can say they learned soemthing and will proceed with more caution next time. So in the end something good came out of it.

Well honestly I hoped people would contact me about it so I could laugh at them. But they did not obviously so.

Oh trust me I thought it through. ^^ However that was with the impression people were poor and could not afford the loss of a whole plat! But obviously, those who are active in RvR enough to use a pot since those are the largest customers can clearly afford to spend one plat with the amount of gold you get for a kill.

 

[atos]

Go go go, keep on rationalizing your fucked up behavior!

Keep trying to justify your whine about my behavoiur. You were clearly not affected by it? :touch:

 

[Agony]

Keep trying to justify your whine about my behavoiur. You were clearly not affected by it? :touch:

no i wasent, just dont like kids that scamming others

 

[Bugz]

I think we can conclude from this thread that Atos obviously gets bullied in real life and likes to become a bad-acting hard man on a forum to control his emotions.

 

[atos]

so so you gave some newb money and that makes it OK to scamm other people ? is that what youre saying ?

I'm saying I've contributed to helping newbie and I'd gladly give the person back his money if he would have contacted me regarding the issue.

 

[krall]

Well all I can say they learned soemthing and will proceed with more caution next time. So in the end something good came out of it.

Well honestly I hoped people would contact me about it so I could laugh at them. But they did not obviously so.

Oh trust me I thought it through. ^^ However that was with the impression people were poor and could not afford the loss of a whole plat! But obviously, those who are active in RvR enough to use a pot since those are the largest customers can clearly afford to spend one plat with the amount of gold you get for a kill.

Don't u get it?...its not a question of 1p, 10p or 50p. U made a misstake, face it - learn - and move on. And for the love of god stop trying to defend urself will only make it look worse mate. Now lets have a

 

[atos]

Don't u get it?...its not a question of 1p, 10p or 50p. U made a misstake, face it - learn - and move on. And for the love of god stop trying to defend urself will only make it look worse mate. Now lets have a

Its not a misstake. Quite the opposite since I knew people would buy it without looking. I see it it as a wakeup call. Next time it might be something worse. People have a tedency to think "oh that will never happen to me".

Oh, so you mean I'm going to suck up all the insults people have thrown at me? Right, I dunno what you are like. But I don't enjoy being the bitch.

 

[Walram]

Atos could i get youre char names so i can block you on my chars.

If you such an (fill in the uglyest word in swedish) in a game then you must be 10 times worse irl.

And all this just for youre own personal enjoyment?
Its that mentality that fucks up the world.

God im happy you live in sweden and il never gona meet ya irl.

 

[Coldbeard]

Its not a misstake. Quite the opposite since I knew people would buy it without looking. I see it it as a wakeup call. Next time it might be something worse. People have a tedency to think "oh that will never happen to me".

Oh, so you mean I'm going to suck up all the insults people have thrown at me? Right, I dunno what you are like. But I don't enjoy being the bitch.

Yes, they should be grateful for you doing them a great favour. Maybe you can help people out by hacking their accounts too, so they might be more aware about that in the future.

 

[atos]

Frankly I cba to list all my chars. Nothing against you. You can always asume I'm worse irl, but I'm quite the oposite. Both ingame and irl so don't let this prank fool you.

Or by all means do that. It's said that you can read a person by their actions. But since this is just one thing I've done that hardly paints me out as a bad person in my eyes.

Its easier to forget and forgive. Not that I personally think I owe someone an appology.

Abit off-topic now. People judge Gimmly cause of the way he was. I can say that my personal experience of him was something completly different and treated him in a way to avoid confronation. Its much easier to put little difference aside than to make a huge fuss of things.

If more people knew how to do this in the world as it exists today, it would be less violent.

 

[atos]

Yes, they should be grateful for you doing them a great favour. Maybe you can help people out by hacking their accounts too, so they might be more aware about that in the future.

Don't be silly. Thats not nearly the same thing. No matter what I say you people wont accept my actions since its something you would avoid doing yourself.

 

[Agony]

Frankly I cba to list all my chars. Nothing against you. You can always asume I'm worse irl, but I'm quite the oposite. Both ingame and irl so don't let this prank fool you.

Or by all means do that. It's said that you can read a person by their actions. But since this is just one thing I've done that hardly paints me out as a bad person in my eyes.

Its easier to forget and forgive. Not that I personally think I owe someone an appology.

Abit off-topic now. People judge Gimmly cause of the way he was. I can say that my personal experience of him was something completly different and treated him in a way to avoid confronation. Its much easier to put little difference aside than to make a huge fuss of things.

If more people knew how to do this in the world as it exists today, it would be less violent.

Must say i got nothing against you ingame ure allways friendly and sush, just that i dont agree whit you about this

 

[pjuppe]

can't we all just get along?

 

[Nausilus^^]

I'm kinda curious as to what you think the people who scammed think of you. Do you honestly think they feel you did them a favor? That you helped them pay more attention? Do you think they laughed when they found out that you had scammed them?

You may find it funny to set people up and scam them, and yes, I used the word "scam" 3 times now, because that's what it is. You may have noblest of all intentions, but the fact is that it's a stupid thing to do to other people, and it can't be justified no matter in which way you try to disguise it.

The people who do it for profit are in no way worse or better than you - they just have different motives, but the action itself is just as lame and stupid no matter what reason(s) you have for doing it.

Would you find it funny if you walked into a tv shop and bought a new tv, and once you got home and wanted to watch a film or telly, you found out that the electronics inside were missing? Would you feel grateful towards the hifi shop for giving you such a wakeup call?



Conclusion.. yes this IS a game, and people are allowed to have their own fun and joy, but you are, to put it lightly, extremely ignorant if you think it's unjustified if people here call you names and act hostile towards you. Most people who reply here, try to create a good and positive atmosphere ingame, in order to preserve what I consider to be one of the best mmo communities out there, while they see your so called pranks as a stopper for all that.

-Nausilus

 

[atos]

Must say i got nothing against you ingame ure allways friendly and sush, just that i dont agree whit you about this

Good to hear. I feared some higher form of aggressive behaviour had built up there. But it was only steam as you explained now.

 

[Ned]

ATOS, not only do you try to scam people in game..u come on FH and post bragging about it and how funny you find it!
What makes me laugh is that YOU made a tit of yourself and in one foul swoop alienated yourself from a large portion of the community..

REMEMBER.. what goes around comes around...and it came around..haha

 

[krall]

Its not a misstake. Quite the opposite since I knew people would buy it without looking. I see it it as a wakeup call. Next time it might be something worse. People have a tedency to think "oh that will never happen to me".

Oh, so you mean I'm going to suck up all the insults people have thrown at me? Right, I dunno what you are like. But I don't enjoy being the bitch.

a) Dont agree on this - since I do belive its a misstake to sacm ppl - even if its not intended as a scam - but a joke.
b) Hardly an insult to point out u made a misstake. We all make one now and then.
c) Have a nice weekend, and have fun ingame...

 

[fenrisan]

Its not a misstake. Quite the opposite since I knew people would buy it without looking. I see it it as a wakeup call. Next time it might be something worse. People have a tedency to think "oh that will never happen to me".

Oh, so you mean I'm going to suck up all the insults people have thrown at me? Right, I dunno what you are like. But I don't enjoy being the bitch.

I've always found you fun and helpful in game but this is a pretty low thing to do.

No-one enjoys being the bitch but that appears exactly what you have done to the people who bought your barrells.

I can't condone the people who have thrown insults either, and no-one is expecting you to suck up to them, but a simple apology goes a long way.

Fen

 

[atos]

I'm kinda curious as to what you think the people who scammed think of you. Do you honestly think they feel you did them a favor? That you helped them pay more attention? Do you think they laughed when they found out that you had scammed them?

Certainly I don't expect them to feel any sort of gratitude. But if it served its purpose I may have saved them from something worse. Personally I can accept that they dislike me afterwards. But nevertheless I would still have offered them their money back at the time.

The people who do it for profit are in no way worse or better than you - they just have different motives, but the action itself is just as lame and stupid no matter what reason(s) you have for doing it.

But the question is, would those who do it for profit offer the victims a refund? But I see what you mean. Unfortunatle I can't agree witht hat and thats where we part sides.

Would you find it funny if you walked into a tv shop and bought a new tv, and once you got home and wanted to watch a film or telly, you found out that the electronics inside were missing? Would you feel grateful towards the hifi shop for giving you such a wakeup call?[/QUOTE

You are losing perspective. How is that story relevant? If you buy a TV in a shop irl there are rules that prevent a seller from doing that as well as insurance laws, etc. There are no safety nets inside the game. And btw, how do I know the TV is new, does it look new? Does it feel new? Etc...

Conclusion.. yes this IS a game, and people are allowed to have their own fun and joy, but you are, to put it lightly, extremely ignorant if you think it's unjustified if people here call you names and act hostile towards you. Most people who reply here, try to create a good and positive atmosphere ingame, in order to preserve what I consider to be one of the best mmo communities out there, while they see your so called pranks as a stopper for all that.
-Nausilus

I don't see why people have to act hostile as they are not any of "my" victims most likely since I've only done it two times that I know off. If you like a positive and good atmosphere ingame I suggest you look back 1-2 years. The game was alot more positive then. Nowadays you can barely get peopel to help unless they get something for their effort. Its almost as if they want to get paid to play a game.

My "prank" as you call it is as much of a stopper as an ant to a football for the ingame community.

I've never acted abusive nor aggressive or anything like it ingame. So personally I think I've done nothing to ruin the atmosphere in the game.

 

[atos]

I can't condone the people who have thrown insults either, and no-one is expecting you to suck up to them, but a simple apology goes a long way.
Fen

I've also said that if these people contact me they would most likely get an apology.