xxManiacxx
Can't get enough of FH
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Since when is BG a "must-have"?
xxManiacxx said:Since when is BG a "must-have"?
Shike said:since the day zerkers started to hit like trains
I wouldnt run an albgroup without BG tbh, means theurg and/or sorc are easy kills for 2 tanks on assist.
Bubble said:Okay lets use our 'imagination'
Which class are you going to take out for a heretic to go into a group?
Mercs? your groups melee will not work in open field.
Casters? Take away your main damage dealer and replace it with something that can't do much? (for mids- Replace Darkness runie with Summoning SM.)
Friar/Paladin? You'd against lose loads of Utility a gain little extra damage.
willowywicca said:Well, I haven't played against warlocks but I don't understand this.. they can only use a chamber every 1 seconds max right? not all together instantly? My caba could cast at nearly 1sec speed, so it doesn't seem that much different.. the range and non-interuptablity factors are overpowered tho x<
Equendil said:They can unload a chamber every 2s, and cast uninterruptable primers in between that.
Warlocks can, in the span of 2 seconds :
0s : Unload a chamber
~1s : Uninterruptable primer
~2s : Uninterruptable primer
2s: Second chamber
That's 6 damage spells in 2s.
Worse, if they 'precast' their uninterruptable primer (they then have 10s to use it, which makes a spell fire instantly, not sure they can in this patch actually) :
0s : Chamber + primer
~1s : primer
~2s : primer
2s : Chamber
And that's 7 spells in 2s.
225 delve lifetaps etc ofc.
Similarly, a warlock could unload 2-3 unint PBAE + 2 chambers with DD+PBAE or heal+PBAE in 2s + banelord PBAE & possibly RR5 PBAE.
xxManiacxx said:Yeah but PBAE styles > BG
Luz said:Surely you can win some fights vs some randoms even if you´re not wtf-opt-p0wn
Bubble said:Okay lets use our 'imagination'
Which class are you going to take out for a heretic to go into a group?
Mercs? your groups melee will not work in open field.
Casters? Take away your main damage dealer and replace it with something that can't do much? (for mids- Replace Darkness runie with Summoning SM.)
Friar/Paladin? You'd against lose loads of Utility a gain little extra damage.
Puppet said:Magic and melee immune sorcerers. I wonder how you can loose
Bubble said:try fighting eclipse without a opt group 1fg v 1fg
I'd rather have a Paladin in group than Heretic (Most Paladins BG better than Friars, they tend to do there job better since they know there melee output sucks)
And i'd rather have a Friar than heretic since BG and Red resists mixed with a much greater melee output >> a third banelord.
Andrilyn said:Cleric, Cleric, Friar, Heretic, Merc/Reaver, Merc, Pally/Sorc, Sorc.
Seems like a very decent setup also with the tower razing comming up and roam groups become more viable.
And with this setup 90% of your group will be under the effect of your RR5, BAoD3(40%) + RR5(75%) is 115% magic immune, test show a rr9 chanter hitting for something like 1 (-540) when you fire both BAoD and RR5 sure it only last 30 seconds (BAoD lasts 30 seconds and rr5 45 seconds) but in 30-45 seconds the fight is already over.
And with the reuse of 10 minutes it means that you will have it up every important fight (on Prydwen anyway).
Friar?Shike said:umm and who BG with no pala?
Bubble said:Okay lets use our 'imagination'
Which class are you going to take out for a heretic to go into a group?
Mercs? your groups melee will not work in open field.
Casters? Take away your main damage dealer and replace it with something that can't do much? (for mids- Replace Darkness runie with Summoning SM.)
Friar/Paladin? You'd against lose loads of Utility a gain little extra damage.
Jjuraa said:
Bubble said:yes you do Zerglin
What tick was that?
Eh, sure, 138 RPs for killing an enemy is zerg RPs. Go go zerg more!Jjuraa said:anyway i wasnt zerging >< our random FG shown there beat an opted hib grp in 1fg vs 1fg
Straef said:Friar?
Belomar said:Eh, sure, 138 RPs for killing an enemy is zerg RPs. Go go zerg more!
Tareregion said:so you rock.