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Scouse

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Vladimir Putin (apparently) said:
Our aim is to liberate Donbas
Interesting.

Macron has quoted "build your enemy a golden bridge to retreat over"...
 

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So you can then build another one when Russia concocts another story to take more land which the same bunch of apologists will believe in their short-sightedness.
 

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It also means that they can use conscripts for offensives rather than just defensive.
They'll just advance to surrender quicker. Certainly a better option than getting shot if they attempt to retreat.
 

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Are american soldiers actively operating within Ukraine? I only ask because of a video i saw on reddit. If you go to r/combatfootage there is a video today "Gunner POV of a humvee storming a russian held village". The Gunner is defo american as he calls for ammo and they give him a rocket launcher instead which made me lol but he was defo in american combat fatigues or what ever you call them
 

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Are american soldiers actively operating within Ukraine? I only ask because of a video i saw on reddit. If you go to r/combatfootage there is a video today "Gunner POV of a humvee storming a russian held village". The Gunner is defo american as he calls for ammo and they give him a rocket launcher instead which made me lol but he was defo in american combat fatigues or what ever you call them

American volunteers that take their own gear with them.

Which I believe is against American law, but yeah, they tend to ignore these laws if they go fight for an ally - see Israel...
 

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Welp, that rough 55,000 Russian Death Count is likely about to jump to 70,000+

Jesus, lapping in that Ukrainian propaganda aren't you? :p

Hasn't got shit on what the Donetsk People's Republic are saying though - 200k Ukrainian soldiers dead, jeez.
 

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So we're looking at the deaths of about 250,000* people at the moment, right?

The primary concern, if we give a shit about people, is bringing a halt to all this death.



*Edit: Just to be clear - if that number is right that's more than half of the amount of UK citizens that died during the whole of World War 2.
 

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So we're looking at the deaths of about 250,000* people at the moment, right?

The primary concern, if we give a shit about people, is bringing a halt to all this death.



Edit: Just to be clear - that's more than half of the amount of UK citizens that died during the whole of World War 2.

Basically yes... because a large portion of that 300,000 will be untrained shit scared teens. They're going to get fucking annihilated. It will generate more "i'm a middle aged russian, my son was killed in ukraine, i hate putin and have NOTHING left to lose" which is going to cause riots etc eventually

He's about to reap what he's sown big style I reckon
 

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Jesus, lapping in that Ukrainian propaganda aren't you? :p

Hasn't got shit on what the Donetsk People's Republic are saying though - 200k Ukrainian soldiers dead, jeez.
The numbers of Russian deaths match pretty closely with figures observed inside Russia so I'd say it's pretty much accurate.
 

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Jesus, lapping in that Ukrainian propaganda aren't you? :p

Hasn't got shit on what the Donetsk People's Republic are saying though - 200k Ukrainian soldiers dead, jeez.

Lol, if there was 200,000 dead Ukrainian Soldiers Putin would ride a fucking 3 wheeler bicycle into the Ukraine and take it over.


Also, Propaganda?

There are plenty of sources citing Russian Death counts, Of course Russia are going to say they've lost few soldiers, if they gave out the true figure they'd be a laughing stock and it would crush morale.
 

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To name but a few (and do check the dates because the numbers vary based on dates)







Given Russian Tactics during WW2 I'm inclined to believe the figure being 55k+ because Russian Military throw lives away like they mean nothing.
 

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To name but a few (and do check the dates because the numbers vary based on dates)







Given Russian Tactics during WW2 I'm inclined to believe the figure being 55k+ because Russian Military throw lives away like they mean nothing.

Casualties don't mean deaths...
 

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Casualties don't mean deaths...
They might not depending on who is using the term.

Regardless, Russia wouldn't have needed to mobilise this week if they'd only lost 6k soldiers.
 

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So we're looking at the deaths of about 250,000* people at the moment, right?

The primary concern, if we give a shit about people, is bringing a halt to all this death.



*Edit: Just to be clear - if that number is right that's more than half of the amount of UK citizens that died during the whole of World War 2.
You facepalmed this Embattle. I'm not sure of the numbers - I'm going on what others have said here. But if they're true and quarter of a million people have really died - what is it particularly that you object to here?
 

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Huh? Russia are saying 6k losses?

There are far more than 6000 widows already, he is struggling to keep a lid on his lies now, with yet another masterstroke of idiocy by sending in yet more untrained cannon fodder to die for him.
 

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There are far more than 6000 widows already, he is struggling to keep a lid on his lies now, with yet another masterstroke of idiocy by sending in yet more untrained cannon fodder to die for him.

Yup... going to go down as a dark day in history when they roll up in the Ukraine because they're going to be slaughtered.
 

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They might not depending on who is using the term.

Regardless, Russia wouldn't have needed to mobilise this week if they'd only lost 6k soldiers.

I don't dispute that Russia are chatting shit.

I'm disputing that Ukraine are also chatting shit :)
 

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LOL

Nearly all flights out of Russia were sold out just hours after Vladimir Putin declared a partial mobilisation of reservists.Google Trends data showed a spike in searches for Aviasales, Russia’s most popular website for buying flights, after Putin’s announcement sparked fears that some men of fighting age would not be allowed to leave the country.Flights from Moscow to the capitals of Georgia, Turkey and Armenia, all destinations that allow Russians to enter without a visa, were sold out within minutes of Putin’s announcement, according to Aviasales data.
 

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I don't dispute that Russia are chatting shit.

I'm disputing that Ukraine are also chatting shit :)
Plenty of corroboration flying around that Ukraine's figures aren't wide of the mark.
 

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Does your stereotypical russian, sat at home watching the news believe their media? Genuine question.
 

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Does your stereotypical russian, sat at home watching the news believe their media? Genuine question.

Seems like it's the case for the older generation through only watching state news on TV etc, younger generations have social media, which I'm sure is full of lies and deception too, but the truth gets through to some of them.
 

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