News War with Russia

Raven

Raven

Fuck the Tories!
Joined
Dec 27, 2003
Messages
44,834
While not directly related.

www.bbc.co.uk

Italian PM Mario Draghi offers resignation after coalition falls apart

Mario Draghi resigns after his coalition falls apart, but the president refuses to accept it.
www.bbc.co.uk

Germany will be even more fucked when Italy default in September, they are balls deep in Italian debt. Add to that very little gas for industry because they designed their economy around Russian oil. I think Germany will be challenged to keep their resolve.
 
Raven

Raven

Fuck the Tories!
Joined
Dec 27, 2003
Messages
44,834
Just waiting for Russia to announce a pipeline through Turkey and Egypt to access Africa.
 
Scouse

Scouse

Giant Thundercunt
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
36,725
Wij said:

View: https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1552942940393185280
Click to expand...

Whilst I've sympathy for this Ukranian's views - they're not very consistent:

"If Putin wasn't weaponizing oil, gas and grain over sanctions he'd be doing it over Western arms supplies to Ukrain or recognition of Crimea, or something else"

Yeah, don't buy that - because he didn't (or couldn't).

And on the rouble:
1659101217053.png

The sanctions aren't really working. And if this goal is to "starve the Russian war machine and demonstrate international condemnation" then they're also an abject failure because Russia is just increasing trade with people we don't really want them to trade with.

But we're not really sanctioning any country if we're paying them a billion dollars a day are we...
 
Wij

Wij

I am a FH squatter
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
18,404
Scouse said:
Whilst I've sympathy for this Ukranian's views - they're not very consistent:

"If Putin wasn't weaponizing oil, gas and grain over sanctions he'd be doing it over Western arms supplies to Ukrain or recognition of Crimea, or something else"

Yeah, don't buy that - because he didn't (or couldn't).

And on the rouble:
View attachment 46567

The sanctions aren't really working. And if this goal is to "starve the Russian war machine and demonstrate international condemnation" then they're also an abject failure because Russia is just increasing trade with people we don't really want them to trade with.

But we're not really sanctioning any country if we're paying them a billion dollars a day are we...
Click to expand...
Did you read the thread?

What are they going to manufacture weapons with if the west won’t sell them the parts, China won’t and the rest of the world can’t?
 
Embattle

Embattle

FH is my second home
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
13,505
I thought it was a rather stupid commentary piece when I read it, we already know the sanctions have taken a bite on weapons side. It is no doubt why the Russians have been using anti ship and SAM missiles to hit land targets.
 
Gwadien

Gwadien

Uneducated Northern Cretin
Joined
Jul 15, 2006
Messages
19,917
Wij said:
Did you read the thread?

What are they going to manufacture weapons with if the west won’t sell them the parts, China won’t and the rest of the world can’t?
Click to expand...

Russia is a natural resource rich country, if they had a serious threat, real or not, they still have the capability to be self-sufficient; maybe the Ukraine war has raised tensions enough for Putin to justify further investment in their arms industry and build on previous arms trading partners? India/Africa/China?
 
Wij

Wij

I am a FH squatter
Joined
Dec 23, 2003
Messages
18,404
Gwadien said:
Russia is a natural resource rich country, if they had a serious threat, real or not, they still have the capability to be self-sufficient; maybe the Ukraine war has raised tensions enough for Putin to justify further investment in their arms industry and build on previous arms trading partners? India/Africa/China?
Click to expand...
They do not have the machine tools or the capability to create them. It would take years to become self-sufficient.
 
Embattle

Embattle

FH is my second home
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
13,505
They also have continued the historic tendency to brag more about the quality and advanced nature of their weapons compared to the reality of them, the other side being the western military equipment suppliers like to play along with Russia's narrative as it means more money for them as well.
 
Scouse

Scouse

Giant Thundercunt
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
36,725
Embattle said:
edition.cnn.com

Russia is plundering gold in Sudan to boost Putin's war effort in Ukraine | CNN

Multiple interviews with high-level Sudanese and US officials and troves of documents reviewed by CNN paint a picture of an elaborate Russian scheme to plunder Sudan's riches in a bid to fortify Russia against increasingly robust Western sanctions and to buttress Moscow's war effort in Ukraine.
edition.cnn.com edition.cnn.com
Click to expand...
One ton of gold -$64.3m dollars. So fuck all.

The billion dollars a day we're giving them? Well, that's funding the effort quite nicely.
 
Embattle

Embattle

FH is my second home
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
13,505
Scouse said:
One ton of gold -$64.3m dollars. So fuck all.

The billion dollars a day we're giving them? Well, that's funding the effort quite nicely.
Click to expand...

I'm not sure why you keep mentioning the money given to Russia for gas etc, hardly anyone thinks it is ideal and it will eventually be dealt with one way or another.
 
Scouse

Scouse

Giant Thundercunt
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
36,725
Embattle said:
I'm not sure why you keep mentioning the money given to Russia for gas etc, hardly anyone thinks it is ideal and it will eventually be dealt with one way or another.
Click to expand...
Because it makes a mockery of the so-called sanctions.
 
Scouse

Scouse

Giant Thundercunt
FH Subscriber
Joined
Dec 22, 2003
Messages
36,725
Wij said:
Corbyn:

bylinetimes.com

What Ukrainians Think About Jeremy Corbyn’s Ukraine Interview

Chris York reports on the reaction of Ukrainians after the former Labour Leader said the West supplying weapons to the country will 'prolong and exaggerate' Vladimir Putin's unprovoked war
bylinetimes.com bylinetimes.com
Click to expand...

That Article said:
A massive 84% of Ukrainians are against a peace agreement with Russia if it involves ceding territory to Russia
Click to expand...
16% of Ukranians are for a peace agreement with Russia even if it involves ceding territory apparently.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Top Bottom