News War with Russia
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I think the point Trump was trying to make was that as a member of NATO you have to also be ready to protect any other member of NATO and that some countries were treating it as a protection club in lieu of defence spending. Completely failing to mention that the reason the American military is so large is all the cash sloshing about private companies, who make an absolute fortune out of it.
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The US military budget is there for a lot more than NATO defence so it's not a fair comparison. Trump thought those countries owed the US money though which was really just a good excuse to not bother with them at all and pull out. He absolutely talked to his SecDef's about how to do that multiple times.
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They aren't wrong...
Just look at Germany and the shit show that cancelling Nord steam 2 will cause. Lots of political funding will go.
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It's beyond Boris though.
I doubt Boris is even involved, it'll be all the MPs in the safe seats that don't do/say anything, apart from making a killing whilst selling out their country.
I guess Boris is a good yes man for those types of people.
Probably explains why we don't have decent folk in positions of leadership, because they got a whiff of what actually happens, realising they can't do much about it, they back out.
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He's in it up to his eyeballs.
Johnson: £160k tennis match did take place
Foreign Secretary confirms game with ex-Russian minister's wife happened but warns against "miasma of suspicion".
www.bbc.co.uk
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Good job you reminded me, I forgot you thought that.
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It's a fair point though isn't it. Bojo's in the papers every day for pretty much identikit Trump. In pretty much identikit way.
Biden got in, same shit, better media. But not substantively better in any way - he's still trashing the environment and lying and doing pretty bad shit. Just not the race-baiting.
Ever was it so. Obama was just a black George Dubya. Didn't close guantanamo, didn't pardon the people who Dubya fucked over. Nor did Trump. Nor did Biden.
Our resident boring Lawyer, Sleepy Starmer, will be the same.
Who. Gives. A. Fuck. - nothing substantive will change.
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Dezinformatsiya in the 21st Century
An information-war onslaught is ahead. Brace yourself.
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This could be pretty big, especially if/when China starts playing billy big bollocks in Asia.
F-35C fighter jet: Race is on to reach sunken US plane... before China
The $100m jet is fair game, in international waters. "It's the Hunt for Red October meets The Abyss."
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Ukraine tensions: US boosts troops in Europe
The US president is to send troops to Poland and Romania amid fears of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.
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It's hotting up.
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Someone who actually was Trump’s NSA for a long time has TDS because he only knows Trump from CNN and Twitter liberals?
Mmm’kay.
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Lol.
This is all about us feeling threatened by NATO on our doorstep!! Therefore we are moving loads of troops from a literal border with NATO (Estonia) to the border of a country that isn’t.
View: https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1489992539268694018
This is all about us feeling threatened by NATO on our doorstep!! Therefore we are moving loads of troops from a literal border with NATO (Estonia) to the border of a country that isn’t.
View: https://twitter.com/IlvesToomas/status/1489992539268694018
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Putin wants to see the reformation of the USSR and he'll stop at nothing to achieve that... even if he does turn into another Hitler, the same fate awaits him.. just a shame nukes are involved this time around because when cornered that mad cunt would probably use them regardless of the MAD doctrine.
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EU saying Yes sir, that's enough sir, thank you sir.
America saying, fuck no.
Do the EU want to be Putin's bitch, with all the lovely non-renewable energy that brings or do they want to grow a spine?
Ukraine crisis: Nord Stream 2 will end if Russia invades - Biden
US President Joe Biden vows to shut down a key Russian pipeline to Germany if Russia invades Ukraine.
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America saying, fuck no.
Do the EU want to be Putin's bitch, with all the lovely non-renewable energy that brings or do they want to grow a spine?
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EU saying Yes sir, that's enough sir, thank you sir.
Ukraine crisis: Nord Stream 2 will end if Russia invades - Biden
US President Joe Biden vows to shut down a key Russian pipeline to Germany if Russia invades Ukraine.www.bbc.co.uk
America saying, fuck no.
Do the EU want to be Putin's bitch, with all the lovely non-renewable energy that brings or do they want to grow a spine?
I think you mean Germany, not the EU.
I think plenty of EU countries have expressed their concern over the pipeline.
It's pretty obvious it's a bit late to do anything about it now; if they decided to cancel it, it would result in WW3.
Besides there's much dodgier states out there that we throw money at for their resources and again, nobody cares about that.
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I don't think Germany has much of a choice; they've binned nuclear and shut their coal mines at the same time, renewables aren't cutting it. They can import coal (they closed the mines but not the power stations...yet) or get gas from...somewhere, but all the choices are bad.
Its funny, we always think of Ze Germans as basically competent people who know what they're doing, but there's a remarkable amount of big, fucked up stuff going on in Germany; their energy policy is broken, their military policy is broken, and apparently loads of their infrastructure is falling to bits as well.
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No, I mean the EU as a whole. Not only are half of them taking it up the chuff but they will still be bickering about how to respond when the shells start falling.
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Absolutely this, this myth of German competence is total bollox, country is mired in useless paperwork, conflicting policies on almost every major issue. Going to be a messy one if the dominoes start to fall (if they are not already)
