Politics US Election 2020

Who do you think will win the Presidential election of 2020?

  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 3 15.0%

  • Joe Biden

    Votes: 17 85.0%
  • Total voters
    20
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Deebs said:
What? A bunch of private online social media platforms removing a tyrant from their platforms for inciting violence and insurrection against the world's most powerful democracy?

/me runs off to get a tinfoil hat before @Scouse tells me that worldwide censorship from companies is inbound.
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The fact that they are doing it openly and people calling it out are tin hatters says everything about the slow but sure conditioning the masses are being exposed to.

Of course the people calling them tin hatters are given all the media time while those concerned are vilified.
By the very fucking people with the power who are doing it.
 
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Deebs said:
What? A bunch of private online social media platforms removing a tyrant from their platforms for inciting violence and insurrection against the world's most powerful democracy?
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Again. Not what I asked you to consider.

Leave Trump and the current situation out of it - I gave a theoretical scenario to consider so we can remove current emotions from the question.

Like I've said, this isn't about Trump. It's about structures and power and who should get to weild it.
 
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Job said:
The fact that they are doing it openly and people calling it out are tin hatters says everything about the slow but sure conditioning the masses are being exposed to.

Of course the people calling them tin hatters are given all the media time while those concerned are vilified.
By the very fucking people with the power who are doing it.
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It is within their rights and ToS to do this. Move along.
 
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Sigh, @Job. You don't even know when to just shut the fuck up and watch, do you? :(
 
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Again. Not what I asked you to consider.

Leave Trump and the current situation out of it - I gave a theoretical scenario to consider so we can remove current emotions from the question.

Like I've said, this isn't about Trump. It's about structures and power and who should get to weild it.
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Sigh, don't use their service then. Broadcast from the official residence of your office.
 
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Sigh, don't use their service then. Broadcast from the the official residence of your office.
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Sorry @Deebs. If Facebook or Twitter were as big as Freddyshouse or Barrysworld in it's fully-laden pomp I'd give you this completely.

But they now preside over the majority of public discourse.

That gives private companies way too much power.

You and me both passionately agree on ID cards for obvious reasons. As an issue this shits all over ID cards from a towering height.
 
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Sorry @Deebs. If Facebook or Twitter were as big as Freddyshouse or Barrysworld in it's fully-laden pomp I'd give you this completely.

But they now preside over the majority of public discourse.

That gives private companies way too much power.
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No it does not. Simply stop using them for official messaging and they become irrelevant.
 
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They should not be, nor should they ever have been used for official messaging full stop.

I completely agree with his bans...
 
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Sorry @Deebs. If Facebook or Twitter were as big as Freddyshouse or Barrysworld in it's fully-laden pomp I'd give you this completely.

But they now preside over the majority of public discourse.

That gives private companies way too much power.

You and me both passionately agree on ID cards for obvious reasons. As an issue this shits all over ID cards from a towering height.
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So what's the solution to private companies that have become what they are from nothing? You're saying certain people should be immune from suspension/deletion, depending on who they are? Yes, they're powerful, of course they are, but they have legal responsibilities just like any other online community. Trump used their platforms to spread misinformation, whip up his rabid followers with lies and incite violence, no legal team in the land is going to allow that to continue on a platform that they represent.
 
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Deebs said:
No it does not. Simply stop using them for official messaging and they become irrelevant.
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It's not about the office of president - it's about public discourse - you and me.
 
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You're saying certain people should be immune from suspension/deletion, depending on who they are?
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No. See above.

The solution, by the way, is to amend the US's freedom of speech legislation to ensure it does what it was originally intended to do - protect speech as a fundamental and indivisible right.

As I've said multiple times - that means wherever public discourse actually happens.
 
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No. See above.

The solution, by the way, is to amend the US's freedom of speech legislation to ensure it does what it was originally intended to do - protect speech as a fundamental and indivisible right.

As I've said multiple times - that means wherever public discourse actually happens.
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He still has that right FFS. He can do a televised statement from the WH. Since when has social media become the official means for any Government to communicate with their population?
 
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Actually, that was my last post for a while on this. It's clear to me that people can't separate this question from the Trump issues.
 
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Wij said:
@Scouse and RustyRockets theorising that Trumpism is caused by economic inequality. Which bit of that causes them to wear t shirts for camp Auschwitz or proclaiming 6 million wasn't enough?
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Them? :eek:
 
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