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[Gwadien]

So tldr government give bad food to poor people and tells them to eat good = they're good.

 

[Scouse]

So tldr government give bad food to poor people and tells them to eat good = they're good.

Government don't give bad food to anyone? People are responsible for the shit that they put in their own fucking maws. Good food has been available for ages.

This is about the reversal of decades old food advice that has, through complex mechanisms, ended up with legions of overweight and obese children. The fat kids in your class (which is half of them according to the stats) will ultimately be affected by this. It's a good thing.

Whether we're capable of reversing the industries that have been built up around the old advice, is another thing entirely. I suspect we won't be able to prize the monster from people's cold dead hands. (Or whatever it is the kids are drinking today).

But that's on them. This "good food definition" is a really important piece of governmental work. It forms the educational basis for kids, it forms what government departments are allowed to advocate for. It gives a weapon to people who want better for the public.

 

[Scouse]

I don't know what about that last post was worth a facepalm @Embattle. Or are you just scattergunning again?

 

[Gwadien]

Government don't give bad food to anyone? People are responsible for the shit that they put in their own fucking maws. Good food has been available for ages.

This is fucking stupid, and you know it.

 

[Gwadien]

In actual fact, your whole argument is utter bullshit lol.

Why have you, and why can't you admit that you've gone from a socialist to a libertarian?

Scouse of old would have laughed at the idea that the government saying eat good food please actually makes a difference without investing further into programmes.

It's some of the most obvious and easiest point scoring of all time and only complete tits would point and say 'that's a good idea.' lol.

Governments don't have a role in what food people put in their mouth? lol.

Who do you think the lowest of lowest food standards are designed for, that's directly from the Government.

 

[Gwadien]

Politics - POLL: Brexit Withdrawal Agreement

Guess it wasn’t oven-ready then: View: https://twitter.com/hendopolis/status/1269384291789799424

forums.freddyshouse.com

Yeah, fuck the peons I guess.

 

[Embattle]

View: https://youtu.be/h2YKBp4JUQo?si=Qzqs061GI0OgZfv-

 

[Raven]

Not reading all of that.

However, getting people to eat healthy is a positive thing that the deranged ant-vax conspiracy theory fuckwit has done, while telling people to not take vaccines, and by extension, making kids die from fairly pedestrian illnesses.

 

[DaGaffer]

Oh. Sorry, I'll talk about what you want to talk about, instead of the subject matter.

If you noticed, I did answer your question:


But to be even clearer: Vaccines aren't going anywhere, but even if they take a knock because of his asshattery - eating properly is more important for the all round health of the population.

In the US diet is directly implicated in ~20% of deaths, and poor diet is exacerbating in 70% of the top ten causes of fatality.

So yes. This is way more important than his anti-vaxx stance.


We can do away with the histrionics though. He's not fucking Hitler. He's just a republican.

No, that definitely wasn't an answer.

Oh, and he's not even a Republican, he's just a fruitcake co-opted by Trump to avoid a vote split and to troll the CDC.

 

[Scouse]

No, that definitely wasn't an answer.

Oh, and he's not even a Republican, he's just a fruitcake co-opted by Trump to avoid a vote split and to troll the CDC.

Either way, you have the answer you wanted now. Food > Vaccines. And the food policy will last. It's really important and long overdue.

@Gwadien - I'll reply to you when I can be arsed burning up more life pointlessly for you to simply not bother trying to understand....

 

[DaGaffer]

Either way, you have the answer you wanted now. Food > Vaccines. And the food policy will last. It's really important and long overdue.

@Gwadien - I'll reply to you when I can be arsed burning up more life pointlessly for you to simply not bother trying to understand....

The food policy won't last five minutes. The American food Industry won't change in the slightest and neither will marketing of crap food. It's all just noise.

 

[caLLous]

Ugh, fucking moron.

Trump said that while he is a “big fan” of Denmark, “the fact that they had a boat land there 500 years ago doesn’t mean that they own the land. [I’m] sure we had lots of boats go there also.”

The USA didn't even exist 500 years ago (and I'm pretty sure the first arrival wasn't on foot or by plane - although he's talked about taking over airports during the Revolutionary War so nothing's off the table apparently) but don't worry about the details.

 

[Gwadien]

I love the way that Western media talks about the protests being about Trump as questionable.

Yeah because the people are going to rally around a pro US and oppressive Shah regime.

Didnt Trump pretty much say the cia were operating in Iran recently?

 

[Scouse]

I love the way that your hatred of America blinds you to the fact that Iran is indeed a horribly despotic Islamic caliphate @Gwadien.

People have been protesting in Iran for a long time, and brutally put down.

 

[Gwadien]

I love the way that your hatred of America blinds you to the fact that Iran is indeed a horribly despotic Islamic caliphate @Gwadien.

People have been protesting in Iran for a long time, and brutally put down.

Completely wrong, the US undermining Iran isn't new. Obviously they've always been doing it.

Trump seems to have pulled the trigger which may undo decades of work, but we'll see.

Obviously I know Iran. But I also know that what came before it was an equally oppressive regime, which is why it's very weird that's the flag they're rallying around.

I feel for the Iranian people, relatively decent country in terms of economy etc but always heavily oppressed.

 

[Scouse]

Completely wrong, the US undermining Iran isn't new. Obviously they've always been doing it.

And when Iran took their internet down 1300 SNP bots went offline.

Everyone is at it. Have been one way or another throughout history. Big deal.

Trump seems to have pulled the trigger which may undo decades of work, but we'll see.

Decades of what work eh? Where's the results?

And still laying this all at Trump's feet. Ignoring the repeated protests - including from long before he was re-elected.

Not saying that Israel and America (and us) aren't involved. But those people aren't doing it just because of us,

Obviously I know Iran. But I also know that what came before it was an equally oppressive regime, which is why it's very weird that's the flag they're rallying around.

We agree on this - I don't like that the involvement of the old regime. It's second only in poor choice to the current regime, that needs to go.

Make no mistake, if Trump IS the main driver (he isn't) then regime change would be a massive win for him.

I feel for the Iranian people, relatively decent country in terms of economy etc but always heavily oppressed.

Don't you see a parallel between Islam and their oppression? Or are we still not allowed to talk about religious-based countries by and large being more violently despotic than their non-religious counterparts?

 

[Embattle]

Machado presents Trump with her Nobel award at White House meeting

Trump thanked Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado, calling it "a wonderful gesture of mutual respect".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DaGaffer]

Machado presents Trump with her Nobel award at White House meeting

Trump thanked Venezuelan opposition leader María Corina Machado, calling it "a wonderful gesture of mutual respect".

www.bbc.co.uk

Jesus. Does he actually think he has the Nobel Peace Prize now?

 

[Embattle]

Jesus. Does he actually think he has the Nobel Peace Prize now?

You know what, he is deluded enough to think he has. On the 9th Jan, the Nobel committee posted this, which includes this little bit:

A Nobel Prize can neither be revoked, shared, nor transferred to others. Once the announcement has been made, the decision stands for all time.

 

[Embattle]

It seems some additional tariffs are coming from our "friends" across the pond:

Trump tariffs: US president announces plan to hit UK, Denmark and other European countries with tariffs over Greenland

The US president says the countries will be charged a "10% tariff on any or all goods" exported to the US from 1 February.

www.bbc.co.uk

Talk about adding some additional support to rejoining the EU.

 

[Gwadien]

It seems some additional tariffs are coming from our "friends" across the pond:

Trump tariffs: US president announces plan to hit UK, Denmark and other European countries with tariffs over Greenland

The US president says the countries will be charged a "10% tariff on any or all goods" exported to the US from 1 February.

www.bbc.co.uk

Talk about adding some additional support to rejoining the EU.

Could actually be the ideal time for us to rejoin without the EU giving us shit terms.

Highly doubt it though in the current political climate.

More chance of Keir telling the sole officer in Greenland to take it over for the US.

 

[DaGaffer]

Government don't give bad food to anyone? People are responsible for the shit that they put in their own fucking maws. Good food has been available for ages.

This is about the reversal of decades old food advice that has, through complex mechanisms, ended up with legions of overweight and obese children. The fat kids in your class (which is half of them according to the stats) will ultimately be affected by this. It's a good thing.

Whether we're capable of reversing the industries that have been built up around the old advice, is another thing entirely. I suspect we won't be able to prize the monster from people's cold dead hands. (Or whatever it is the kids are drinking today).

But that's on them. This "good food definition" is a really important piece of governmental work. It forms the educational basis for kids, it forms what government departments are allowed to advocate for. It gives a weapon to people who want better for the public.

You can't be that naive. People have had dietary advice blasted at them for decades. They buy cheap crap food because it's cheap. The only thing that's ever worked is taxing the stuff that's bad for you.

 

[Scouse]

You can't be that naive. People have had dietary advice blasted at them for decades. They buy cheap crap food because it's cheap. The only thing that's ever worked is taxing the stuff that's bad for you.

Necro!

Anyway - Had my cousins over last weekend. Really enjoy their company.

They cut all the fat off their (organic, local) lamb dinner. They even cut the crispy fat off their bacon at breakfast. They passed on yoghurt because it's natural, not some low fat UPF. One of them skipped butter because it wasn't some olive oil spread.

Dietary advice matters a lot on an individual level. But this is important on an institutional level. It determines what's taught in schools, what doctors can say, what government contracts can be signed and much much wider.

However, your point on taxing shit is a fair one. But it's not an "instead of", but an "as well as".

But make no mistake - this advice isn't about low-wage, low IQ idiots (where tax makes more difference) - this is about advice that intelligent, well-educated, well adjusted individuals take on and try to do their best with. You tell people that fat is the devil they'll by and large believe you and try to do their best.

 

[Scouse]

Just to be clar @DaGaffer - people have had the wrong dietary advice blasted at them for decades.

If you follow that advice you likely end up hungry and, because of that, fat.

And that's without UPF.

 

[Gwadien]

Just to be clar @DaGaffer - people have had the wrong dietary advice blasted at them for decades.

If you follow that advice you likely end up hungry and, because of that, fat.

And that's without UPF.

Are you just talking about the US here or?

 

[Scouse]

Are you just talking about the US here or?

I was talking US but UK and US guidance used to really be two sides of the same coin.

Now they're massively different. And from a policy pov that's huge - food assistance, for example, will now prohibit UPF's and sugary energy drinks. Same for school meals.

The US now has a hard mandatory limit of 10g added sugar per meal (if government provided). So no more monster or sugary 'milkshakes' - and they're getting shot of a load of the chemical additives they allowed in the US which were illegal over here (e.g. yellow dye no5. And some petroleum derivatives).

We, conversely, still focus on carbs for a large part of our calories. Which has pretty much been proven a disaster.

It'll be interesting how that shows up on a generational level between UK and US. We're effectively running a big health experiment now.

 

[Scouse]

Anyway - what we need is more of this inspirational stuff:

‘Without strength training I wouldn’t survive’: the woman who joined a CrossFit gym in her 80s

At 81, Jean Stewart was frustrated by her growing frailty, so she decided to get active. Now 96, push-ups, kettlebell squats and pushing a weight-loaded sledge keep her strong

www.theguardian.com

 

[Embattle]

It seems that Trump is on a long press conference trying to convince others of his achievements, but people don't need convincing of real achievements.

 

[Ormorof]

It seems that Trump is on a long press conference trying to convince others of his achievements, but people don't need convincing of real achievements.

Maybe he should drink more milk

 

[Embattle]

View: https://youtu.be/RPzcGeiNYvk?si=9I4WpAEJclRVcoJ_