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SilverHood

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If you work in the US, they give you a much harder time. They have to be certain you do not intend to stay longer than your visa, even if the visa is dual intent (ie work visa that allows conversion to greencard down the line).
 

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A mate of mine overstayed his permit teaching kids soccer.
They turned up mid game, handcuffed him in front of the parents, took him to his flat, let him pack one bag and straight on the plane.
And he cant go back..end of.
 

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What's the point?

He's some how an agent of Putin?
Not necessarily but he’s got a soft spot which is worrying when Putin set up accounts to shill for him in 2016.

Voting against the Magnitsky act doesn’t make sense for someone who is supposed to be against corrupt plutocrats. That’s literally what the act is for.
 

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Not necessarily but he’s got a soft spot which is worrying when Putin set up accounts to shill for him in 2016.

Voting against the Magnitsky act doesn’t make sense for someone who is supposed to be against corrupt plutocrats. That’s literally what the act is for.

I mean Bernie has always been about peace and socialism; it doesn't come as a great surprise to me that he doesn't support stuff which can cause conflict.

Weak, perhaps? Or just an alternative approach to politics?

Personally, I think he's onto something, I've always spoken about how Russia is losing their sphere of influence and you could argue that you're pushing them into a corner beating them with a stick, they might lash out at some point?
 

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I mean Bernie has always been about peace and socialism; it doesn't come as a great surprise to me that he doesn't support stuff which can cause conflict.

Weak, perhaps? Or just an alternative approach to politics?

Personally, I think he's onto something, I've always spoken about how Russia is losing their sphere of influence and you could argue that you're pushing them into a corner beating them with a stick, they might lash out at some point?
Putin is doing stuff against the West all the time. It doesn't change when the US is nice to him. He relies on having the US as an enemy as his reason for being in charge. Just watch his state TV.

Anyway, the Magnitsky Act was to punish Russian oligarchs and officials for crimes committed against the Russian people. Murder, false imprisonment, corrupt police and judges and stealing Russian taxpayers' money.

You think if the US lifted all the sanctions Putin would pull out of Ukraine and the Azov Sea?

Appeasement rarely works. Making the oligarchs think that Putin can no longer protect their fortunes is a bit more persuasive than giving him everything he wants.
 

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Quite simply this is now attempted constructive dismissal.

No one..on either side can see it as anything but an increasingly ludicrous attack by gossip.

They need to stop it now before they lose all credibility.
 

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Quite simply this is now attempted constructive dismissal.

No one..on either side can see it as anything but an increasingly ludicrous attack by gossip.

They need to stop it now before they lose all credibility.
Gossip? If Mueller has evidence that Trump asked Cohen to lie to congress then he needs to be impeached now.
 

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I'm glad he is not drone-striking peoples shit and trying to start new wars. Also being very open with his threats (see twitter) instead of going cloak and dagger. Even though he is insane.

I guess not bombing, killing innocents and all that jazz doesn't hold as important presidential qualities and newsworthy articles. What was it, didn't Obama get a peace price? Well, as long as you're presidential, it's all fine right?
 

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I'm glad he is not drone-striking peoples shit and trying to start new wars. Also being very open with his threats (see twitter) instead of going cloak and dagger. Even though he is insane.

I guess bombing, killing innocents and all that jazz doesn't hold as important presidential qualities and newsworthy articles. What was it, didn't Obama get a peace price? Well, as long as you're presidential, it's all fine right?
Brining Obama in isn't helpful. It's just a distraction. A criminal president needs to be impeached.
 

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Brining Obama in isn't helpful. It's just a distraction. A criminal president needs to be impeached.

I would like to add that every president ever lies. It's just more or less so that Trump is openly doing it. Whodhavethought
 

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I would like to add that every president ever lies. It's just more or less so that Trump is openly doing it. Whodhavethought
Other presidents have not instructed someone to lie to congress. There's a difference. That difference is whether something is against the law or not.
 

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Other presidents have not instructed someone to lie to congress. There's a difference. That difference is whether something is against the law or not.

To be fair, lesser incidents have led to far greater consequences with previous presidents (see Bill Clinton impeachment) and news-storm. By default, Trump should be royally fucked. I'm with you so far. Now, you do not know for a fact what other presidents have and have not done. It would be naive and erroneous (due to human nature) to assume the opposite.
 

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To be fair, lesser incidents have led to far greater consequences with previous presidents (see Bill Clinton impeachment) and news-storm. By default, Trump should be royally fucked. I'm with you so far. Now, you do not know for a fact what other presidents have and have not done. It would be naive to assume so.
I don't but if evidence had come forwards that they'd done similar then they should have been impeached.

Not many previous presidents though struck me as the type who'd do something like this to save their own arse (not the country's) because they'd been so carefree with lying in the past. Not impossible but none (even Nixon) of them seemed to have quite the self-centred-egotism that Trump has.

Article 1 of the impeachment of Nixon was a similar thing.
 

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More than half the country voted for him...probably a lot of rednecks and white chrisrians, but a lot of people who despised the politicians and voted for him because he was a crazy wild card.
Seeing the establishment try every trick under the Sun to get him out will not sit well with those voters, wether they like him or not.
Basically its a Brexit parallel.
You were wrong and we'll fudge, scrape and shout witch till we get him out.
 

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More than half the country voted for him...probably a lot of rednecks and white chrisrians, but a lot of people who despised the politicians and voted for him because he was a crazy wild card.
Seeing the establishment try every trick under the Sun to get him out will not sit well with those voters, wether they like him or not.
Basically its a Brexit parallel.
You were wrong and we'll fudge, scrape and shout witch till we get him out.

No they didn’t. 46.1% of the popular vote, and 65% voted. So 29.9% of eligible Americans actually voted for Trump.
 

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