Werewolf Twisted Metalwolf Game Thread.

[Olgaline]

well,

I cant make out if we have 2 or 3 wolves,
But what I am suspecting is something quite the more sinister on Fl3a's behalf.

I've been thinking, If they indeed only are two wolvs, then it is likely they might also have a "proffesion preventer" wich with his buddy now warming us in the the fireplace.
leaves, well Him.

this could explain why he'd want us to leave him for the night. as if he guesses right
he gets one more kill. "not that i can see it doing him any world of good"

again unless there really are 3..and one has preventive abilities.

Either way this "I want to help the town" has me on edge, becuase either way he looses. from his perspective it makes no difference.

I'm still confused about the vampires, but will, look through the town meeting transcripts
when i get back

I'm still in the middle of my org...eh I mean plowing the..aarrf! I mean ..in the fields ok?

[ooc]
aka at work til 22:30
we'r holding a whisky tasting tonight

 

[Thadius]

Did someone say whiskey?!

 

[ECA]

Right well I agree with Ch3t......I'm willing to sacrifice my self by announcing myself for the greater good.
I am the Seer, on the first night I scryed Fl3a and he came back as a Wolf
This night I scryed Aph3x and he came back as a Vampire

IF you want to burn me and test if I was telling the truth do it. I wanted to wait to announce myself till I had at least 2 positives to get the most use out my ability.

This means if I read it right, that on the second night Aph3x was a vampire, if the chief vampire can convert that means there is a 50% chance Aph3x is the head vampire leaving him the most sensible voting option, and hope we can have a vigilante finish fl3a tonight if we have one.

We'll have to deal with fl3a tomorrow if there is no vigshot on him tonight.

vote Aph3x

 

[Olgaline]

if aphax isnt the head vamp, then we cant know when,
having skimmed the journals, I'd guess one the first night,
because, thats the first time he mentions vampires,

still being in the fields though, I'm abit unsure of this

 

[Ch3tan]

Yeah aph3x mentions vamps on the 2nd day, after the first night. I still think it more likely ECA or Vasc are the head vamps.

Also ECA, there could be a maximum of 3 vamps now, the head vamp, and 2 conversions. Would that not mean there is only a 33.3% chance aph3x is the head vamp?

Uara, can you give us more info on what you saw both nights?

 

[fl3a]

Also ECA, there could be a maximum of 3 vamps now, the head vamp, and 2 conversions. Would that not mean there is only a 33.3% chance aph3x is the head vamp?

that is indeed correct, since uara said he scryed me on the first night, not aph3x.

 

[ECA]

Ch3tan I'm not sure why you are casting aspersions at me, besides the fact that you could be a vampire trying to misdirect attention - also perhaps a reason you havn't voted for APh3x yet, you hope to dissuade us from lynching him?

It's incontrovertible that if the Vampire group works as described by yourself, that if Uara scryed Aph3x on the second night and on Day 1 there was only one vampire, there can only have been two vampires on night 2 or one being converted to a third - given that we have no other information to find the head vampire logic dictates we must lynch Aph3x tonight, and hope Fl3a dies overnight as a bonus.



If we don't lynch Aph3x today and he is the head vampire then we let the vampire bloc expand further, if we go for fl3a perhaps we stop the werewolve/s killing people but in addition the vampires expand further and may have an overall majority?

I'm not sure what the numbers are as I'm busy aioning

 

[Ch3tan]

I never suggested lynching fl3a, I stated quite clearly if you bother to check that the head vampire must be our priority, I will wait to see what Uara says first on what he actually saw in his vision. I also gave reasons as to why I think you are the head vamp, read up.

We really do need to know if vasc was actually protected last night. Only Uara seems willing to unveil himself though.

 

[Aph3x]

Jesus, you go to work for a day and your fellow villagers are ready to tie you to a steak!

Ok to confirm I am a vampire, I was turned last night by I dont know who. It happened in my sleep and when I awoke this morning I have a taste for blood, one I havent had previously.

In this day of honesty and laying it on the table I am the other roleblocker, I am or was your town sheriff. This allowed me to block who ever I decided to on a nightly basis.

I dont know if I will regain my former status of town sheriff when the head vamp dies or if I too will perish.

 

[Aph3x]

Oh and Vasc was who I blocked last night, before I was turned

 

[ECA]

So you're reason for thinking I'm chief head vampire is that on day 1 when if I was, I would be alone was starting a bandwagon for my vampire cohorts to jump on cornvorkz ?

I see your logic.... Makes perfect sense if you have brainaids, or are some sort of bad guy I suppose.

Also, regarding Vasc - we don't know whether Fl3a was trying to protect him - which I think is unlikely given how obvious it seems, so it seems more likely Vasc was immune last night for some reason - and vigilantes have never been immune in the past.

That leaves us with a choice of Aph3x or vasc for head vampire, The problem is however if there are 3 vamps .
Actually I just realised Vasc might be a better target while writing this, If aph3x was converted on night 2, and another on night 1, Aph3x would be the third vampire - meaning The night immune vasc would be either the head vampire or the night 1 vampire.

unvote Aph3x


I'm going to wait until everyone has weighed in and if no good reasons have come forth from anyone else ( role unveils ) then I'm going to vote for Vasc as I've never seen a good player immune to badguys without the aid of a doctor in the memoirs ( who is dead ).








EDIT: Just to clarify - I was writing/posting this post before aph3x spoke up.

 

[ECA]

Aph3x could you fill in your role a little for me? I need to know otherwise my logic for a long winded post I want to make doesn't make sense.

As sheriff if you roleblock someone does that prevent them doing anything and also having anything done to them ( locked in a cell? ) or does it just prevent them from being attacked?

 

[Aph3x]

It prevents them from taking any action and also doing any actions on a night. As you say they get locked in a cell.

 

[fl3a]

and this would be a great time for any other 'wanna be roleblockers' to speak up

 

[Vasconcelos]

So you're reason for thinking I'm chief head vampire is that on day 1 when if I was, I would be alone was starting a bandwagon for my vampire cohorts to jump on cornvorkz ?

I see your logic.... Makes perfect sense if you have brainaids, or are some sort of bad guy I suppose.

Also, regarding Vasc - we don't know whether Fl3a was trying to protect him - which I think is unlikely given how obvious it seems, so it seems more likely Vasc was immune last night for some reason - and vigilantes have never been immune in the past.

That leaves us with a choice of Aph3x or vasc for head vampire, The problem is however if there are 3 vamps .
Actually I just realised Vasc might be a better target while writing this, If aph3x was converted on night 2, and another on night 1, Aph3x would be the third vampire - meaning The night immune vasc would be either the head vampire or the night 1 vampire.

unvote Aph3x


I'm going to wait until everyone has weighed in and if no good reasons have come forth from anyone else ( role unveils ) then I'm going to vote for Vasc as I've never seen a good player immune to badguys without the aid of a doctor in the memoirs ( who is dead ).








EDIT: Just to clarify - I was writing/posting this post before aph3x spoke up.

OK'ish reasoning, tho

I just want you to take into consideration that aph3x might be well lying about him being the sheriff.

We need more ppl to remove their mask. I already did.

 

[Ch3tan]

It prevents them from taking any action and also doing any actions on a night. As you say they get locked in a cell.

Which rules out vasc as the head vamp.

ECA: The coke bandwagon was to get the town moving, there was no time for anyone to unvote. As i said there have been two people yourself and thad, who have voted no lynch every day so far. I can see and have explained ow a no lynch would benefit a head vamp. I think I have said more than enough now and am trying to resist the urge to speak lots, I want to hear everyone else's theory.

aph3x - who did you lock up on night one?

 

[Ch3tan]

also if you check the records and memoirs, aph3x seems to be true about one thing. those converted by vamps do not know who converts them.

 

[ECA]

Ok so:


Remaining in the village are:

Aph3x,
ch3tan,
thadius,
uara,
fl3a,
olagline,
ECA
Vasc.

Confirmed Vampire: Aph3x
Confirmed Werewolf: Fl3a.
Confirmed Seer: Uara
Confirmed past-lawman: Aph3x.
Confirmed village roles: Doctor, Sheriff, Seer. ( I don't think there will be anymore unless we have a vigilante? Which I'm kinda hoping for ).

And we know last night the werewolve/s tried to attack Vasc.

That leaves no other special roles I think, meaning we have 3 vampires and 1-2 werewolves left.

That means out of: Myself, Thadius, Olgaline, Ch3tan and Vasc there are 2 Vampires and perhaps 1 werewolf meaning it's a 60% chance killing any of them that they are bad guys.

We have 1-2 wolves, 3 vamps for a total of 4-5 badguys out of 8.
The only confirmable goodguy right now is Uara.
There may be a vigilante out there.


Also we need aph3x/fl3a to vote today as well or we cannot get a majority vs a vampire ( We need 5 to vote, they have 3, 8 remaining which means to kill a vampire we need _Everyone_ else to vote the same way ).


If we kill fl3a today the vampires convert someone tonight and it's 4vs 3 meaning game over for the villagers.

This means we need to reduce vampire numbers and hope like hell a vampire/wolf fight breaks out tonight.


Also we know Aph3x isnt the head vampire and also

ECA: The coke bandwagon was to get the town moving, there was no time for anyone to unvote. As i said there have been two people yourself and thad, who have voted no lynch every day so far. I can see and have explained ow a no lynch would benefit a head vamp. I think I have said more than enough now and am trying to resist the urge to speak lots, I want to hear everyone else's theory.

As I just stated, and you replied to and everyone knows I was the first vote on Corknorksz yet you keep trying to paint it that I didnt.
You are much more logical than to ignore that so I can only assume you are a bad guy.

I also don't necessarily believe the vampires do not know who turned them.
Does that mean every vampire gets a kill? Do they all suddenly become Vampires but only the head vampire gets a kill/convert? What is the point of them being vampires if they
A) Cannot kill/convert
B) Don't know who each other are.

One of those has to be false, yet Ch3tan has:
Lied about my voting record
Tries to pretend breaking the above logic is correct.


vote Ch3tan

 

[Aph3x]

I locked you up Ch3tan, looking through your memoirs you seem to be number one first night target and I wanted your reasoning around for atleast a second day.

 

[ECA]

Just to backup my argument a little more with stuff I left out:

Scenarios:

We vote fl3a today, fl3a dies and another vampire is converted tonight:
It's now 4 vamps vs 3 villagers and we lose.


We vote aph3x today, aph3x dies, fl3a gets to kill someone - maybe the vamps kill him ( most likely ) .

This eliminates 2 badguys, possibly a third depending on who fl3a hits or kills an innocent :

Leaving us with 5 people left, of whom 2 are vampires, and maybe 1 is a wolf and 2 villagers. Or 2 Vampires and 3 villagers, depending on the werewolf count.

Maybe Uara gets a turn off maybe not.



The last scenario is we lynch ch3tan: He has lied about my voting record, and tried to start a ball rolling on both Vasc and myself with bad logic and also without starting the voting himself.

We kill the head vampire, Fl3a kills APh3x, Aph3x kills Fl3a, Uara gets an extra turn and maybe just maybe we make it out alive?

( I just hit preview here to check for new posts before posting ).


ALSO Aph3xs POST CONFIRMS MY SUSPICIONS Ch3t lead with the question and aph3x as a vamp protected his team leader by claiming to have locked him up.


CONFIRMEDC FONRIEMD CFnidnsflslslslsls

VOTE Ch3tan for head fangsmith.

 

[ECA]

Fangy Fangy Mcfangington the fangth earl of fangtown fang county nosunshineland or as he is known ch3tan.

 

[Ch3tan]

ECA. People can check the town notes, if I lied about you voting no lynch, then why are you on record as having voted no lynch? I did not deny you voted cokenose. you voted no lynch on day one and two, you changed your vote on day one to be the first to vote coke after it appeared we were going nowhere. you voted thorwyn last on day two after we had already reached a majority. In my eyes you are either the head vamp or the last wolf.

I'll rip apart the rest of your post later, but this was the easiest point to destroy. You accuse me of lying by lying yourself. How very evil of you. I know you also, and know you are too logical also to make such a desperate play without being under a lot of pressure. Guess you don't like the spotlight on you, must be that sensitivity to light.

 

[Ch3tan]

Heh you have dug your own grave ECA.

Guys check days 1 and 2 for yourselves. ECA votes no lynch on both days. Old town records show the vamps do not know their maker. All of ECA's accusations are based on falsehood and the hope that you do not check facts for yourselves. I urge you all to check all claims yourselves.

 

[Ch3tan]

I locked you up Ch3tan, looking through your memoirs you seem to be number one first night target and I wanted your reasoning around for atleast a second day.

So if I was head vamp then the only other vamp is you. But since I am not that means there are 3 vamps, UNLESS tris- managed to protect someone on night 1 before dying.

I also believe there still could be another wolf apart from fl3a, I just do not buy that he would want to help us now.

I have to concur that vasc is now off the hook though. He cannot be head vamp as he was locked up when aph3x was turned, and he cannot be a wolf as clearly aph3x's sherrif claim means there is not secret play by him and fl3a going on.

I still think that the head vamp needs to die, so lets drive a stake through his heart, based on his lies about voting:

vote Evil Cow Assassin

 

[Thadius]

This vampire rumour has completely thrown me, its only in the past couple of days that this has been said.

Methinks it is just a false rumour started by the wolves to get the attention away from their crafty scheme of wiping out the village.

 

[Ch3tan]

It seems like we're a slow paced lot and I dont think we're going to be able to lynch anyone on day 1 so I'm going to

vote: no lynch

day 1, his first vote, followed by:

I think it's been long enough for cornvorks to have posted, inactives tend to ruin games so:

unvote no lynch
vote: cornbop

then day 2:

*spunks in ch3ts hair*

vote no lynch

I think giving our ( hopefully we have one ) Seer some extra turns might help, and maybe force the wolfies to get proactive if they want to lynch people as it seems nobody wants to stir things up.

I've been a little distracted by an MMO in my hut by ch3ts is generally right when he's not a big furry and the game has been plodding a bit, so I'll jump on the bandwagon and

unvote novote
vote Thorwyn

He was the 7th vote for thorwyn, his and olga's votes made no difference as the majority had been reached when fl3a signed his own buddies death warrant

And i don't have to be!

7 Votes - Thorwyn (Aph3x, ch3tan, thadius, uara, fl3a, olagline, ECA)
1 vote - ch3tan - (vasc)
1 votes - No lynch (Thorwyn)

But that's fine guys, don't believe what actually happened, no believe ECA when he tells you I lied about any of the above happening. : rolleyes:

 

[ECA]

I'll just keep letting you incriminate yourself to anyone who can read.

 

[fl3a]

you have ruled out vasc as being the head vamp it seems, but what about him being a regular vampire or a werewolf? i thought you were totally sure hes my fuzzy wuzzy werewolf buddy

 

[Uara]

Okie just got back from a hard day studying.....
my exact sighting the past couple nights have been as such:
Fl3a:I saw a big dog growling around within his home...far too large for a normal dog
Aph3x:I initially saw him as an alien, it fades and he appears as a vampire

(I know Aph3x originally was a Lawman so not much help in me posting this but just thought I would anyway)

Just going to have a read through the minutes of the meeting and try to come to some understanding!

 

[fl3a]

So if I was head vamp then the only other vamp is you. But since I am not that means there are 3 vamps, UNLESS tris- managed to protect someone on night 1 before dying.

it does make a little sense that if you were the vampire, you would want everyone think that theres more of you than there actually are. all you need is to get a 'vampire' who is really just a townie lynched to be one step closer to victory.