Werewolf Twisted Metalwolf Game Thread.

[old.Tohtori]

*Scratches head*

No one has been too naughty, even if we're threading some fine china here.

Why be too strict, i'm dead anyway!

1 vote - Ch3tan - (ECA)
1 vote - ECA - (Ch3tan)

5 to decide, 6 unvoted

 

[ECA]

It's actually possible we are in a better situation than I thought and there are only two vampires.

It would explain a lot.

Let's agree with my logic that ch3tan is head vampire, and Aph3x is a convert.

We know Uara is a seer and fl3a is a werewolf.
We didn't know about the existence of the vampires/sheriff/etc or the structure of the village at all, but yet on the second day Ch3tan states that Thorwyn is a wolf and is correct.

How did he know? I'm guessing ch3tan tried to convert Thorwyn on night one and couldn't turn him because he was a wolf. I didn't really follow ch3ts logic then but went along because I was aioning and figured Ch3t was probably right.


Add to that a CONFIRMED BY SEER VAMPIRE Aph3x trying to give ch3t some immunity by claiming he locked him up on day 1.


+ my posts on the previous few pages.

I am 10000000% Sure that ch3t is the vampire leader.

 

[ECA]

Also his vote for me backs it up: Rather than trying to go after a confirmed werewolf that would incriminate him by voting for Fl3a, or voting for a confirmed vampire he is going after the one person accusing him via cold hard logic, which just reinforces my thoughts.

 

[Aph3x]

It seems like we're a slow paced lot and I dont think we're going to be able to lynch anyone on day 1 so I'm going to

vote: no lynch

I think it's been long enough for cornvorks to have posted, inactives tend to ruin games so:

unvote no lynch
vote: cornbop

*spunks in ch3ts hair*

vote no lynch

I think giving our ( hopefully we have one ) Seer some extra turns might help, and maybe force the wolfies to get proactive if they want to lynch people as it seems nobody wants to stir things up.

day 1, his first vote, followed by:



then day 2:





He was the 7th vote for thorwyn, his and olga's votes made no difference as the majority had been reached when fl3a signed his own buddies death warrant




But that's fine guys, don't believe what actually happened, no believe ECA when he tells you I lied about any of the above happening. : rolleyes:

Haha Ch3t you bastard, I've just spent 10 mins figuring out how to mulit quote only for you to do it! Swine!

ECA you get my vote for all of the above you are in a desperate place trying to get out.

Vote Escapades Cause Accidents

 

[fl3a]

Also his vote for me backs it up: Rather than trying to go after a confirmed werewolf that would incriminate him by voting for Fl3a, or voting for a confirmed vampire he is going after the one person accusing him via cold hard logic, which just reinforces my thoughts.

going after me is not a good move for the village, and he knows this. the village needs to take down the HEAD vampire today, not any vampire, not the wolf, and thus his vote does make sense. you are the only target that has been presented.

and it makes a bit of sense for you to be the head vampire as well, at least from the day one action. you saw cornokz was inactive and since an inactive wouldnt make a good vampire, you decided to get him killed - the second best thing.

but your inactivity just doesnt suit a leading figure like that. i would believe that a person with a powerful role like that would pay more attention to the game, and be very active. just as i have done, and just as ch3tan has done.

 

[fl3a]

and while i was writing my post a confirmed vampire goes and makes the vote on ECA a wagon.

i guess ill do the same with the vote on ch3tan.

vote ch3tan

 

[ECA]

So now we have one confirmed vampire ( Aph3x ) , and someone who tried Aph3x tried to protect ( Ch3tan ) voting for me?

You guys make it far far far too easy.
( And I think it backs up my argument as to how Ch3tan knew Thorwyn was a wolf - he tried to convert and failed ).

 

[Ch3tan]

Aph3x:I initially saw him as an alien, it fades and he appears as a vampire

(I know Aph3x originally was a Lawman so not much help in me posting this but just thought I would anyway)

an an alien?? WTF?!!! Aph3x I think you need to explain....

 

[Ch3tan]

and while i was writing my post a confirmed vampire goes and makes the vote on ECA a wagon.

i guess ill do the same with the vote on ch3tan.

vote ch3tan

So flea, you agree with my logic in one post, then vote for me in the next? I know you are a wolf, but are you blind to the false hood ECA stated about his voting on days 1 and 2? why lie about something unless you are hiding something?

If you think I am lying then please point out the facts that prove it as I have done with ECA, otherwise your vote seems to be for no other reason than spite on your part as you are now uncovered.

 

[Ch3tan]

So now we have one confirmed vampire ( Aph3x ) , and someone who tried Aph3x tried to protect ( Ch3tan ) voting for me?

You guys make it far far far too easy.
( And I think it backs up my argument as to how Ch3tan knew Thorwyn was a wolf - he tried to convert and failed ).

So a lawman can be converted into a vamp but a wolf can't? Seems that if one special could be converted all could? Also if you stopped using your Aion excuse and read up on day two, you would see why Thorwyn was targetted, and at no stage did I say I knew he was a wolf, I said he was the best bet based on his lies about cokenose's death. You see people who lie tend to have something to hide...

 

[Thadius]

vote ECA

 

[ECA]

So you're siding with a confirmed Vampire and someone who he tried to protect Thadius?

That seems smart.

 

[Ch3tan]

Before people go voting mad (i am acutely aware that ECA and myself are both near a lynch now), can we please wait for some clarification on this whole "alien2 thing from uara's vision??

 

[Aph3x]

Okay okay I'm an alien sent from the planet blaaargh to check you humans out, I've been sent under the cover of a lawman to probe you and find out just what you are like. I have the ability to role block. Alien sounds so nasty tho, no one thinks of them as nice lovable creatures so I went with the cover story.

 

[ECA]

aph3x - who did you lock up on night one?

I locked you up Ch3tan, looking through your memoirs you seem to be number one first night target and I wanted your reasoning around for atleast a second day.

Just to reiterate one of my reasons why Ch3tan is head vampire and he knew about Thorwyn - he tried to convert him, found he couldn't and guessed he was a werewolf ( only other possibility were doctor or sheriff which he couldn't have known about - but if they did protect Thorwyn and wanted to defend him they would have to unmask themselves ).


Then Aph3x gives Ch3tan an alibi, and they both vote for me....

 

[fl3a]

So flea, you agree with my logic in one post, then vote for me in the next? I know you are a wolf, but are you blind to the false hood ECA stated about his voting on days 1 and 2? why lie about something unless you are hiding something?

If you think I am lying then please point out the facts that prove it as I have done with ECA, otherwise your vote seems to be for no other reason than spite on your part as you are now uncovered.

oh, sure, if i was to act as you right now, id like to point out that you lied about me hoodwinking the citizens by miscounting votes, you lied about me being jumpy. now you will say 'but those were not lies!'. and in fact they werent.

what im suggesting is that instead of just reading the memoirs, you should also read a book about words and their weight/severeness. just as someone might be called plain, ugly or hideous (each of them implying different levels of uglyness) something someone says can either be a blatant lie, a half truth, the truth or actually a bit of all of them, depending on your point of view.

i see in ECA exactly what you did with me, you see something wrong ('a lie') and pursue it relentlessly. while you could look at it from another point of view but see that it is not actually a lie.

you are in fact both correct about your points - ECA voted for a no lynch and then voted for the person who got lynched. it seems to me, that it seemed to ECA that you tried to say that he voted (and kept his vote) for no lynch on both of the days. and it seems that it seemed to you that ECA tried to say that he never voted for no lynch.

and i am not voting against you out of spite.
i am voting against you because i am certain that i am correct. it is the only explanation that fits with the information available to me. i have explained my theories, ECA has made some points against you as well. of course he has also made mistakes in his arguments against you, but the way i see it, if you are just a villager you are bound to make more mistakes due to suddenly having this huge bunch of information to grasp and theorize on.

there is no doubt in my mind that any move other than lynching ch3tan is borderline suicidal.

 

[Thadius]

Erm, I was the one who pointed out that Thorwyn was a werewolf...

 

[Vasconcelos]

you have ruled out vasc as being the head vamp it seems, but what about him being a regular vampire or a werewolf? i thought you were totally sure hes my fuzzy wuzzy werewolf buddy

lol flea, trying to drag sum1 else to hell with ya, dont ya?

My vote goes to eliminate the known threats among us, that is either fl3a or aph3x.
And since Im not sure yet about aph3x being or not Strahd Von Zarovich himself, I think Im gonna cast my vote to:

vote: fl3a

On a side note, if Uara is the Seer, why has Thadius been playing that confusing drunken role? I thought he was playing his game role as drunken oracle or something like that. Food for thought.

 

[ECA]

Vasc please read the last 2-3 pages, voting for fl3a right now gaurantees a Vampire win if they have 3 vampires right now.

>.>

 

[Uara]

On a side note, if Uara is the Seer, why has Thadius been playing that confusing drunken role? I thought he was playing his game role as drunken oracle or something like that. Food for thought.

I was actually going to raise this point! I dunno whether Thad's choice was just totally random or there's something darker at stake here!

 

[Uara]

Oh and Vasc we don't want to take down Fl3a, not yet anyway. As others have already pointed out unless we burn the head vamp we're down and out due to the numbers in the village!

 

[Vasconcelos]

OK.

Need to reread ECA's and ch3tans posts about why we lose if we take out the actual danger now.

unvote: fl3a

 

[fl3a]

short answer: the real danger is the vampires. im harmless, since i can be blocked and will be lynched for certain

long answer: read the posts of this day and make your own conclusion.

 

[Ch3tan]

i see in ECA exactly what you did with me, you see something wrong ('a lie') and pursue it relentlessly. while you could look at it from another point of view but see that it is not actually a lie.

Because a lie or mistake is more likely from those with something to hide, you slip up wile trying to maintain a cover.

Now your mistake on day one when you miscounted the vote and I called you on it, thorwyns mistake saying he only voted for coke after he knew he wanted to die. All these mistakes are from people that are wolves. Why should you presume to think that chasing mistakes and lies is wrong in the face of the massive evidence showing that those who have lied and made mistakes have so far been evil?

 

[Ch3tan]

On a side note, if Uara is the Seer, why has Thadius been playing that confusing drunken role? I thought he was playing his game role as drunken oracle or something like that. Food for thought.

You will remember that thadius also named you as a wolf or evil along with thorwyn? Now as a seer he would only have had one night to observe someone, so he could not know about both of you. So the likely hood is he was just playing a bluff. We also know that with the info provided by Uara, flea and Aphex today that you are almost certainly not a wolf or a head vampire.


there is another scenario though! Vasc, have you bee truly honest about your role? If thad has some kind of ability to see or follow people, would there be a reason that you were in the vicinity of a wolf on the first night??

 

[ECA]

According to ch3tans logic the vampires dont know who each other is, yet only the head vampire can do anything - what's the point of the other vampires being vampires if they are basically zombie villagers? It doesn't make sense.

The best part about his logic is that he has a Confirmed Vampire naming him as "not a vampire" Yet the Confirmed Vampire is following ch3ts logic and thinks I'm the head vampire.


Neither of them see's this as a conflicting point of view?
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Second point:

If there are three vampires and it takes 5 to lynch - EVERY INNOCENT+Fl3a has to vote together to be able to stop them.

We know Uara is a Seer, and we know Aph3x won't vote for his own.... it's very easy to see that Basically we should follow whatever Uara says, I hope he and everyone else can see the logic in what I've said and not let it get obfuscated.

To reiterate - EVERY SINGLE NON-VAMPIRE HAS TO VOTE TOGETHER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LYNCH A VAMPIRE!!!!!!

 

[Aph3x]

According to ch3tans logic the vampires dont know who each other is, yet only the head vampire can do anything - what's the point of the other vampires being vampires if they are basically zombie villagers? It doesn't make sense.

The best part about his logic is that he has a Confirmed Vampire naming him as "not a vampire" Yet the Confirmed Vampire is following ch3ts logic and thinks I'm the head vampire.


Neither of them see's this as a conflicting point of view?
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Second point:

If there are three vampires and it takes 5 to lynch - EVERY INNOCENT+Fl3a has to vote together to be able to stop them.

We know Uara is a Seer, and we know Aph3x won't vote for his own.... it's very easy to see that Basically we should follow whatever Uara says, I hope he and everyone else can see the logic in what I've said and not let it get obfuscated.

To reiterate - EVERY SINGLE NON-VAMPIRE HAS TO VOTE TOGETHER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO LYNCH A VAMPIRE!!!!!!

ECA when did I say Ch3tan wasnt a vamp, please point this out to me, oh I'd love to see the post. All I have said is that I blocked him on the first day. Nothing more nothing less.

You are clutching at straws.

 

[Uara]

According to ch3tans logic the vampires dont know who each other is, yet only the head vampire can do anything - what's the point of the other vampires being vampires if they are basically zombie villagers? It doesn't make sense.

ECA makes some sense in this point. There is nothing to gain from vampires being turned if they don't know who turned them. I mean essentially they'll play no part in it apart from voting for whoever the hell they want to as long as it means they can get through it without suspicion. They could essentially vote for their own head-vampire and that wouldnt be very good now would it!

OOC-->Toht do Vamps need majority to win?

 

[Ch3tan]

From previous villages, vamps, zombies etc, the head vamp or zombie as to convert the majority to win. the converted get nothing. we are in a twisted village and this may not be the case, but I doubt it to be honest as other roles have followed behaviours historically recorded from other towns.

Again I need no defence except the point ECA is trying to pretend never happened. Him claiming his vote history falsely, and calling me the liar.

 

[old.Tohtori]

OOC-->Toht do Vamps need majority to win?

No info on roles, amount, goals or variations will be released.



2 votes - Ch3tan - (ECA, fl3a)
3 votes - ECA - (Ch3tan, Aph3x, Thadius)

5 to decide, 3 unvoted