Football Transfer Thread!

[Aoami]

That's Wenger's fault though, not the clubs. Wenger has always said he wants to stick to a tight wage budget.

 

[soze]

This is the reason Arse will always be a selling club, they wont pay top wages.

And on what planet is a lazy 16 goal scoring striker worth 130k a week we will not pay stupid wages but our players that are worth the money earn well.

 

[Corran]

aye ade isnt worth the money. Only really had 1 good season and he was pretty useless for most of last season. Has an attitude problem though didnt he get a payrise last year? Probably why he couldnt be arsed

 

[soze]

aye ade isnt worth the money. Only really had 1 good season and he was pretty useless for most of last season. Has an attitude problem though didnt he get a payrise last year? Probably why he couldnt be arsed

Yep he moaned and tried to leave all summer but no one wanted him then he got a payrise to 80k a week and decided to wonder about rather than putting in any effort.

 

[cHodAX]

Interesting article on Arsenal's current finances...

BBC - Peston's Picks: Has Arsenal borrowed too much?

 

[Marc]

And on what planet is a lazy 16 goal scoring striker worth 130k a week we will not pay stupid wages but our players that are worth the money earn well.

I wasnt talking just about Adebayor, im talking in general.

This is why Arsenal sign kids and players you have never heard of, because they cant afford to sign established players on big bucks. Its their business model that they have to stick to, which is why 4th place is their glass ceiling and they will soon be over taken by city.

 

[leviathane]

yes foolish arsenal, lets be bought out by some billionaire and then pay football players ridiculous amounts of money, cos the poor lil babies aren't already making stupid amounts of money as it is.

 

[Marc]

yes foolish arsenal, lets be bought out by some billionaire and then pay football players ridiculous amounts of money, cos the poor lil babies aren't already making stupid amounts of money as it is.

But unfortuntaley, thats the way you have to do it in order to succeed. Id love Arsenal to be a force with the squad they have, but I cant see it.

 

[soze]

I get sick of reading about our finances it seems most people want us to sell out or go bust the stadium debt is easily serviceable by the money we make from football, and the housing debt is not tied to the club so we are no worse off than we were when that fat Russian twat tried to sneak in the back door. He thinks he will win the fans over by making up this crap about the club but none of the people i go to football with want to see him anywhere near the club. If anyone i would take the Yank at least he knows sport. But I think it is good that we want to win off our own back and I still say i would rather stay as we are and not win the league than pay massive stupid wages just to win a league title while slipping more into debt.

 

[cHodAX]

That isn't what I was doing, I was just posting a link detailing the finances which goes some way to explaining why Arsenal aren't spending big money. Personally I think they are doing the right thing, they won't risk the club for short-term success and that is admirable.

 

[Corran]

INdeed, I got much respect for arsenal, even if i like to whined up their fans at times. They have set theirself goals and they sticking to them in a world where football finances gone mad.

In alot of ways I wish man utd would now switch to a more stable financial model. We got many players around now that will help us gain success so reframing from spending a fortune in transfer market is good. That why i respect fergi's decision in regards to the ronaldo money

 

[gohan]

breaking news liverpool signed silva \0/

 

[Lethul]

breaking news liverpool signed silva \0/

for real?

 

[gohan]

for real?

no xD



but im bored

 

[soze]

That isn't what I was doing, I was just posting a link detailing the finances which goes some way to explaining why Arsenal aren't spending big money. Personally I think they are doing the right thing, they won't risk the club for short-term success and that is admirable.

Did not mean you or people on here really but i saw an article quoting these findings saying that as Arsenal had no money Wenger and Cesc were leaving bla bla bla. Just gets depressing.

We do not make the same money as Man U so unless we find someone like Chel$ki willing to throw the money away we would never compete with the mancs anyway.

 

[cHodAX]

We do not make the same money as Man U so unless we find someone like Chel$ki willing to throw the money away we would never compete with the mancs anyway.

You are still a wealthy club that generates alot of cash, they are just being sensible at the moment and servicing the debt rather than inflating it for what would be short term success. A wise move in my opinion.

 

[Ch3tan]

Did not mean you or people on here really but i saw an article quoting these findings saying that as Arsenal had no money Wenger and Cesc were leaving bla bla bla. Just gets depressing.

We do not make the same money as Man U so unless we find someone like Chel$ki willing to throw the money away we would never compete with the mancs anyway.

If you cannot compete with us then you are miles behind, as we can't compete with City, Chelsea, hell even Sunderland seem to have more spending power.

I know there are a lot of Man Utd, Arsenal and Liverpool fans a little bemused at the moment, but what most have said here is right. Better the clubs secure their financial future than spend over the odds for players. We did it a few times in the last year because selling clubs and agents force you into a corner when you want a player. Berba for example should never have been more than £20m ( I also think no player is worth more than this, and that we need caps on transfers to bring values back into line), but as City and Chelski both had bid in the £30m mark, we had to pay to get him. I would rather English clubs focused on youth talent and invested in their academy's than spend insane amounts to secure the right player.

 

[Ch3tan]

Oh and as for Adebayor, what a quality deal by Wenger. £25m reportedly for a waste of space. He was shockingly under-committed last season. I wonder what fighting for his place will do to him at City? I also really hope the wages talk coming out of City and Madrid is bollocks, other teams simply cannot compete with players who are not even that great being paid over £100k a week. Should only be the elite few that get that kind of money.

 

[soze]

I also really hope the wages talk coming out of City and Madrid is bollocks, other teams simply cannot compete with players who are not even that great being paid over £100k a week. Should only be the elite few that get that kind of money.

I agree i think Arsenal have one player on over 100k maybe 2 with Gallas. City have to pay this as the club is undesirable so its the only way they can get major stars to sign.

What would you like to see to try and stop the madness? An after tax salary cap that way everyone can pay the same. I can see the bugger clubs not liking this. Or that rule that means you can only pay what you make this would stop some of the Madrid and Man Shitty madness, plus it will not affect us so I’m all for it. But I think a few of the higher placed teams with have problems with this. I also can’t help but think any move to make a change like this will be met with more talk of a Super League outside of the FA’s.

 

[Vladamir]

Looks like Downing could be off to Villa

Sky Sports | Football | Premier League | News | Downing set for Villa move

 

[Turamber]

Downing could be a very good signing for us, when he gets fit.

I must admit I had to have a wry smile at fans of the "big four" calling for ways to combat Man City's extra-spending power. It is the "big four"'s spending power that allowed them to get where they are now and to dominate English and European competition ... but now they're under threat something needs to be done apparently

 

[soze]

I must admit I had to have a wry smile at fans of the "big four" calling for ways to combat Man City's extra-spending power. It is the "big four"'s spending power that allowed them to get where they are now and to dominate English and European competition ... but now they're under threat something needs to be done apparently

If you count Arsenal as "big four" you are wrong our spending power has probably been closer to yours than Man U or Chel$ki for years, yet we do fine staying in the top 4 and Champions League

 

[Hawkwind]

But unfortuntaley, thats the way you have to do it in order to succeed. Id love Arsenal to be a force with the squad they have, but I cant see it.

As a fan I could not agree more. Persnally I like the stand Arsene has taken on wages and big name players. He has a talent for buying in young or cheap and selling big. 25 Mill for Ade is a joke, if they cough that much up. He's a lazy mofo.

With the new ground to pay for Arsenal have had to curb the spending a bit but it is certainly not as bleak as some of the overspending clubs. He has built a business to last by not splashing out on expensive players. I'd love to see Eduardo and RVP up front all season.

As for the blog financial report, if as it states Arsenals profits will drop to 35-40 mill for 2010 due to increased wages and having to pay players more due to new tax rules. Imagine how clubs like Utd, Chelski and City will do? Arsenal pay quite well but nothing like these three clubs pay out. I think our top earner was 80K. Also, I do not believe Arsenal will loose money on the 140 mill developement of the old ground. London property has dropped in price but I simply cannot believe they are worse less than the building costs. I think the report is slanted to the view of its instigator and serves his purpose. As Arsenal stated this disagrees with their own banks report.

As much as I'd like to see Arsenal win the league I don't want them going mad and buying in expensive players on stupid money. I like watching them play and firmly believe given some luck and a few less injuries they can get close with the squad they have now. Although I'd have loved to see Huntelaar playing for us in 2009/2010. The midfield is good enough. Defence needs some shoring up.

 

[Hawkwind]

That isn't what I was doing, I was just posting a link detailing the finances which goes some way to explaining why Arsenal aren't spending big money. Personally I think they are doing the right thing, they won't risk the club for short-term success and that is admirable.

I'd worry about your clubs finances mate. Heard Glazier is again trying to renegotiate his debt terms. Plus 42% rise in ticket prices since 2005!

Arsenal Debt roughly 250 mill from new Stadium, plus 140 mill tied in the Highbury housing developement which is seperate from the football business. Remind me again what Utd's debt was, announced in April??

Alex Ferguson defends Malcolm Glazer over Manchester United debt - Soccer - SI.com

In case you forgot

 

[cHodAX]

I'd worry about your clubs finances mate. Heard Glazier is again trying to renegotiate his debt terms. Plus 42% rise in ticket prices since 2005!

Arsenal Debt roughly 250 mill from new Stadium, plus 140 mill tied in the Highbury housing developement which is seperate from the football business. Remind me again what Utd's debt was, announced in April??

Alex Ferguson defends Malcolm Glazer over Manchester United debt - Soccer - SI.com

In case you forgot

I am and have been worrying for sometime, there is no point denying otherwise. The only positive spin I can put on the debt is that it is less than 3 years total revenue, still a massive amount but it is a sustainable debt and we just banked £80 million.

Oh and btw I was not and am not slagging Arsenal off, I pointed to that article in reply to some comments about Arsenal's lack of spending. That article totally justified the Arsenal boards stance imo.

 

[megadave]

Why the fuck do Man City want Adebayor?

 

[leviathane]

to help us get rid of some deadwood xD

 

[Turamber]

If you count Arsenal as "big four" you are wrong our spending power has probably been closer to yours than Man U or Chel$ki for years

Now do you want me to list all the players signed by Wenger since he's been there, or do you wish to cede the discussion by default? I agree you've not spent a lot of money comparatively for four years or so, but it just so happens you've won bugger all in the same timeframe.

 

[soze]

Now do you want me to list all the players signed by Wenger since he's been there, or do you wish to cede the discussion by default? I agree you've not spent a lot of money comparatively for four years or so, but it just so happens you've won bugger all in the same timeframe.

Do Wengers Transfer Totals in and out not just spend as Wenger has not had £300mil to spend he is probably still under £50mil total spend.

Can we please stop talking about Ade untill he has been sold i don't want City working out they are mugs.

 

[megadave]

Apparently Adebayor will be one of the most highest paid footballers in the world. Aint that a fucking laugh?