fuckwit Republican candidates said:
He is doing as much as he can within the boundaries he has. He has said some pretty close to the bone stuff about the American people and guns, something along the lines of "we don't have the common sense to have this many guns in this country". The guy is a good president and one of the best I have seen run that country in my lifetime.
Just to add balance to this discussion and play devil's advocate a little
The gun laws in the states were written into their Constitution to protect the people from their own government.
Given the batshit craziness of the current lot of political hopefuls it's not much of a stretch of the imagination to see a future scenario that an unnopposed leader could start, for example, rounding up "undesireables" into, say, concentration camps. Maybe the illegal immigrants?
It's happened before in the US.
Then, perhaps, a strong and charismatic leader may want to go even further than simple concentration camps and may suggest a different solution, that the people would sign up to. There's well publicised precedent for this in multiple countries in the last hundred years.
When I say it's not a stretch of imagination I mean it. It would just be applying past history to a country that has already gone down that path in many ways. (I also think that you're a well-meaning fool if you don't think this is at least possible, given recent history all over the world and the identical nature of humans no matter geography).
I posit that the thing that's stopped their government going full retard in the past is the fact that large swathes of well-armed Americans would start shooting at them. Perhaps, in a country of 300 million+ people the gun death rate is the price of continued freedom?
Perhaps the things that tend to be linked with gun crime could be better managed? - Better education, more equal income, less poverty etc. etc. - would be a better solution than "ban guns".
Just to add balance to this discussion and play devil's advocate a little
The gun laws in the states were written into their Constitution to protect the people from their own government.
Given the batshit craziness of the current lot of political hopefuls it's not much of a stretch of the imagination to see a future scenario that an unnopposed leader could start, for example, rounding up "undesireables" into, say, concentration camps. Maybe the illegal immigrants?
It's happened before in the US.
Then, perhaps, a strong and charismatic leader may want to go even further than simple concentration camps and may suggest a different solution, that the people would sign up to. There's well publicised precedent for this in multiple countries in the last hundred years.
When I say it's not a stretch of imagination I mean it. It would just be applying past history to a country that has already gone down that path in many ways. (I also think that you're a well-meaning fool if you don't think this is at least possible, given recent history all over the world and the identical nature of humans no matter geography).
I posit that the thing that's stopped their government going full retard in the past is the fact that large swathes of well-armed Americans would start shooting at them. Perhaps, in a country of 300 million+ people the gun death rate is the price of continued freedom?
Perhaps the things that tend to be linked with gun crime could be better managed? - Better education, more equal income, less poverty etc. etc. - would be a better solution than "ban guns".
Second Amendment said:
I disagree strongly with your point of view. I think the founding fathers of the US government knew very well what they were doing when they made the right to bear arms an individual liberty.
No. But you can certainly make inroads, small incremental changes that can be done and aren't sexy.
That's @Moriath, not me. I do care, very much. Which is why the solution to this problem has to not create a another problem that history shows is clearly the worse one.
but for the most part humans haven't done themselves any favours. From the top right down to the bottom it is all a false way of being and existing and it has caused massive amounts of jealousy and inflated self worth without reason.
And thanks for the publicity heheIn all fairness, humans are generally cunts. There are some lovely ones like me obviously and Teedles and Jup at a push
I do find it hard to rustle up any sympathy for the majority of things that happen anymore, and now the newsreader and her cronies on that network are sitting there holding hands and saying a prayer for the ones killed, no they fucking aren't, they are saying a thank you prayer that it wasn't them.
In all fairness, humans are generally cunts. There are some lovely ones like me obviously and Teedles and Jup at a push, oh and @Edmond. he's a top bloke and no mistake..........
