To Albions

[Thorwyn]

I`d rather follow a rr3 d00d with a good plan than a rr9 Infi that spends 99% of his online time at hmg in Odins and thinks that Tepoks Mine is an exotic drink.

 

[Trubble]

ppl didnt even respond to the 3fg hibs entering pennine

Isnt it poor that Albion has to respond with the whole realm to defend against 3fg hibs? Says something about how it feels being an Alb atm.

 

[Meduza]

I`d rather follow a rr3 d00d with a good plan than a rr9 Infi that spends 99% of his online time at hmg in Odins and thinks that Tepoks Mine is an exotic drink.

then read :

ohh, and plz albs... dont come stating "uhh, ohh, ofc we will follow!". U might, cuz ur some lowlvl/low rr/unknown/useless alb

Need I say more ?!?

 

[Icebreaker]

Herbal said you don't care about the Power Relics. Why do you made this Thread then?

 

[Herjulf]

I dont really get it.

Alb if any realm except hib should really care about power relic.
Knowing the US trend on RvR grps going towards sorc,ice wiz and theurg. and MA nuking.
And lots of pet interupts.

Why wouldnt alb want power relics?

Its not like melee is Albions strong side anyways. (solo, duo stealthgrps not included)

Well anyways, nomatter how u got the relic u should be friggin happy.
u got stronger, hib got weaker.
Should make your everyday RvR more fun.
And worth protecting.

just a mid saying his bit. going back to mid board to postfarm.
Gl

 

[Gordonax]

When did I claim I had organised any Relic Raid?

Nowhere, I'm not claiming you did.

Who ever said I am complaining? FYI

I did Here's what you said:

Can you tell us when the last time was we organised a Relic Raid to get back at least our own strength relic?

That looks like a bit of a complaint to me.

I am quite happy as I am right now, but if we ever happen to get back the relics I sure will be at my post to help with it as well as defending them after as I always have done in the past.

Of course, as will the majority of Albs. The fact is that Alb's have defended the relics extremely well when they've had them most recently, and I've no doubt will do when we get them again. That means I just don't see that what you're saying is valid when you claim that "when another realm takes the relics away from them their spirit is broken". Is YOUR spirit broken? I don't think so. Neither's mine.

 

[Gordonax]

hahahaahahahaahahahahah

funny post, nQQb!

Didn't you get perma-banned? No? Shame.

Try to get the rr9+ peeps to follow a RR lead by a (e.g.) rr3 dood (or someone rly RLY unknown!). Simply wont happend! U need a name and if u got some1, then that "name" takes over!

How many people do you think you need to get the relics? How many people do you think there are UNDER RR9? Since when was being RR9 a prerequisite for being on a relic raid?

 

[Belomar]

ohh, and plz albs... dont come stating "uhh, ohh, ofc we will follow!". U might, cuz ur some lowlvl/low rr/unknown/useless alb - Get GoL, FC, SS and the other l33t g33ks to follow some dood named "Iplayalittle ButWouldLikeOurRelicsBack" lvl 49.5 and rr2L1 in his 3 man guild (2 irl friends) and I promise u, hell will freeze over and I'll be eating my shorts!

That's because you need to learn to walk before you learn to run. No one will follow a "no-name" simply because the stakes are too high--why invest hours of your precious time into an unknown quantity when it could just turn out to be a waste? Believe it or not, the well-known "names" started out from zero as well, and the way to gain trust and reputation is to work at it, beginning with your own guild. Start by organizing small-scale raids, keep retakes, PvE hunts, etc, and work from there. It's not rocket science.

 

[Gordonax]

I dont really get it.

Alb if any realm except hib should really care about power relic.
Knowing the US trend on RvR grps going towards sorc,ice wiz and theurg. and MA nuking.
And lots of pet interupts.

Why wouldnt alb want power relics?

Its not like melee is Albions strong side anyways. (solo, duo stealthgrps not included)

Well anyways, nomatter how u got the relic u should be friggin happy.
u got stronger, hib got weaker.
Should make your everyday RvR more fun.
And worth protecting.

just a mid saying his bit. going back to mid board to postfarm.
Gl

I don't disagree with you about most of that, it's the "and worth protecting" bit that matters. Maybe it's just that having the bonuses isn't the be-all and end-all of it for most Albs - how we got them matters too. Which, of course, is why we haven't sunk to doing an alarmclock raid on Mid

 

[Trubble]

I dont really get it.

Alb if any realm except hib should really care about power relic.
Knowing the US trend on RvR grps going towards sorc,ice wiz and theurg. and MA nuking.
And lots of pet interupts.

Why wouldnt alb want power relics?

Its not like melee is Albions strong side anyways. (solo, duo stealthgrps not included)

Well anyways, nomatter how u got the relic u should be friggin happy.
u got stronger, hib got weaker.
Should make your everyday RvR more fun.
And worth protecting.

just a mid saying his bit. going back to mid board to postfarm.
Gl

It was a good intention from Midgaard to try wake up the Albs, but the speed and effeciency of the Hib shroom and the FF style really put Albion even lower on the morale than before. Albion is balanced on being overpopulated, but when Albs use this advantage the server crash. Most albs have now given up on relics and are praying for salvation in new frontiers.

 

[Meduza]

Since when was being RR9 a prerequisite for being on a relic raid?

-sigh-

Was an example to prove my point...

 

[Flimgoblin]

A lot of albs didn't want to keep that power relic for the same reason they'd never go on an alarm clock raid.

The end does not justify the means.

 

[Meduza]

That's because you need to learn to walk before you learn to run. No one will follow a "no-name" simply because the stakes are too high--why invest hours of your precious time into an unknown quantity when it could just turn out to be a waste? Believe it or not, the well-known "names" started out from zero as well, and the way to gain trust and reputation is to work at it, beginning with your own guild. Start by organizing small-scale raids, keep retakes, PvE hunts, etc, and work from there. It's not rocket science.

Maybe ppl dont feel like doing that for 6+ months to gain ppls trust.

But aye, it ain't rocket science. If so, mids wouldn't be able to do it

 

[Belomar]

Maybe ppl dont feel like doing that for 6+ months to gain ppls trust.

This is a community, no different from any other community in human society. Maybe you can instantly become the Napoleon of your favorite single-player game, but the pixels you see here actually have a real human being behind them, and thus it's not enough to just charm the pixels to be able to lead. If you don't have the time or inclination to invest time in building up your own reputation (indirectly giving people the chance to evaluate your leadership and skill as a general), why should the people you are trying to lead care about you?

 

[Meduza]

No one will follow a "no-name" simply because the stakes are too high--why invest hours of your precious time into an unknown quantity when it could just turn out to be a waste?

Forgot to reply to that one. Stakes too high, u say ? What, U die IRL if it fails ?!? Or do u miss precoius RPs from ur gankgrps in Emain ?!

This is what it comes down to... "Missed RPs with my l33t g33k grp" vs "Risk at failing (yet another) RR and a few hours"!

Tbh I dont think any1 (even low rr unknown albs) intends to call upon a RR without spending a few hours himself at the drawing table! But comments like urs, Belomar, that one needs to have a rep to make u go to the RR, well... Kinda prove my point, don't it ?!?

 

[Clipse]

When I read of the RR on FH, I logged in, did /who = 780 albions online. I can't believe after we had warnings that they were coming, not 1 Albion. Not 1 Albion kept a look out for Raiders.

Wake up guys. Why does no-one this realm do anything ? SS has 480 members, what do u guys do in-game ? Why don't one of u organise an RR ? or protection programme for Pennines ?

Seriously, every albion has 25 Respec stones hoarded in their house, but no one organises RR's, or keep defences.

Its too much for 1 guild GOL, have to look after the whole realm.

Then again why didn't anyone in GOL do anything yesterday, we had Beno, yet when I logg in most of GOL are in CS,etc.......

Then we have guilds like Joy Division, that do nothing but pop at in-realm guilds. NO that refuses to Collaborate with anyone else.

Flame me all you want, but we got no relics, and the enemies do.

 

[Clipse]

And for those who say they didn't want to defend our undeserved Relics:

If midgard didn't do an alarm clock raid, we may well still have had the Str relics, so don't for 1 minute, think, that wasn't their way of making up for it. They gave us the relic and we lost it in one day.

 

[Gothika]

Wake up guys. Why does no-one this realm do anything ? SS has 480 members, what do u guys do in-game ? Why don't one of u organise an RR ? or protection programme for Pennines ?

What they do is thier business, and as far as i know SS do keep takes/retakes often, singling them out because they have alot of members is wrong, like its been said in this thread, if a "unknown" SS member or unknown player decided to do a RR chances are most people yourself included would dismiss it as hopeless. Seen it all before.

Seriously, every albion has 25 Respec stones hoarded in their house, but no one organises RR's, or keep defences.

Its too much for 1 guild GOL, have to look after the whole realm.

Then again why didn't anyone in GOL do anything yesterday, we had Beno, yet when I logg in most of GOL are in CS,etc.......

Then we have guilds like Joy Division, that do nothing but pop at in-realm guilds. NO that refuses to Collaborate with anyone else.

Maybe you should take the initiative and organise a RR

 

[Chilly]

There were plenty of people idling at Myrddin yesterday, I even got killed by an rr8 NS camping just outside the castle and thought nothing of it about 35-40 minutes before the raid was announced - i was en route to beno. When i left there were a good 5-10 random albs knocking about over the castle.

But as ppl have been saying its just not possible to defend power relics vs a well planned hib raid - it CANNOT BE DONE without taking ridiculous pre-measures like having 10fg of insta defenders always logged at snow keep, and even then it will probably not be a solid defense because as soon as you get within clip of Myrddin you get 2fps cos of the fucking shroom zerg then you die because of the fucking shroom zerg.

Its very bad design by mythic that albion has a MUCH MUCH harder time defending power relics than hib and mid.

Str relics on teh other hand, can be raided and defended very efficiently by alb. Its just old Herbal thinks numbers=success when the clearly dont, even though there was that fucking spy it still would have crashed the server and failed.

What alb needs is a raid that uses enough people for the job, all of whom know what theyr doing and are well equipped and who will NOT crash this gameboy we call a server when theyr in clip of each other, i bet an alb RR on mid could be done with 15-20fg easily with the correct planning and work put in, sadly im an idiot and lack tactical insight else id be beavering away right now and telling fellow alb GMs about my wonderful plan!

Anyway, the defense was irrelivant ebcause a) half the people didnt care and b)those that did had 0 chance of defending successfully.

 

[Gordonax]

-sigh-

Was an example to prove my point...

Didn't do very well then, did you?

 

[Gordonax]

Its too much for 1 guild GOL, have to look after the whole realm.

Then again why didn't anyone in GOL do anything yesterday, we had Beno, yet when I logg in most of GOL are in CS,etc.......

Flame me all you want, but we got no relics, and the enemies do.

I'm not flaming you mate, it's your point of view and you have a right to it. But to say "Its too much for 1 guild GOL, have to look after the whole realm" is needlessly insulting a lot of guilds that do a lot of defending and retakes - my own own included. It also ignores the facts. Take us for example. Normally, if there's any warning of a relic raid we're the first out of the traps to come and defend, but for yesterday's attack we didn't bother. Why? Because ultimately it didn't feel right defending a relic that we hadn't won.

 

[Z^^]

This is a community, no different from any other community in human society. Maybe you can instantly become the Napoleon of your favorite single-player game, but the pixels you see here actually have a real human being behind them, and thus it's not enough to just charm the pixels to be able to lead. If you don't have the time or inclination to invest time in building up your own reputation (indirectly giving people the chance to evaluate your leadership and skill as a general), why should the people you are trying to lead care about you?

Lol rly you crack me up, dont need any leadership to arrange a relic defence because its basicly GO snowdonia when the first 100 albs have gathered /y cg join xxx or use emain cg sence most ppl are in that if they have been rvring then go defend.

 

[Meduza]

Didn't do very well then, did you?

or maybe its just u...

 

[Gordonax]

Lol rly you crack me up, dont need any leadership to arrange a relic defence because its basicly GO snowdonia when the first 100 albs have gathered /y cg join xxx or use emain cg sence most ppl are in that if they have been rvring then go defend.

Belomar wasn't talking about defence.

 

[Gordonax]

or maybe its just u...

No maybe about it: it's not me.

 

[Meduza]

Belomar wasn't talking about defence.

Ohh, U got that one ?!?

Nice...

 

[Gordonax]

Ohh, U got that one ?!?

Nice...

Yeah, odd how what Belomar says makes easy sense, while what you say doesn't.

 

[Belomar]

Wake up guys. Why does no-one this realm do anything ? SS has 480 members, what do u guys do in-game ? Why don't one of u organise an RR ? or protection programme for Pennines ?

Wow, retarded comment, I thought better of you, but perhaps my respect is misplaced. So, you are basically saying GoL is the paragon of Albion RvR and the rest of the guilds you mentioned are just useless dead weight? Then why on heaven's earth were you not online yourself last night, camping Pennines or HW, and why do you insist on doing virtually all of your own RvRing in Emain instead of the Albion frontier? I'm sure that if there was a bindstone in Emain ATK, you'd be bound there.

So, for the record, since you seem intent on clueless flaming, while SS has not organized a relic raid (except a failed spur-of-the-moment raid on Mjollner some time back), we have been extensively involved in recent relic raids. I have personally lead a number of large-scale RvR raids in both the Mid and Hib frontiers, and with very successful outcomes (not so many recently, due to RL concerns, but the Fensalir farming this Friday was led by SS).

I understand you are upset about losing the relic so quickly, but I suggest you think before you flame so indiscriminately the next time.

 

[Lac Desariel]

hahahaahahahaahahahahah

funny post, nQQb!

Try to get the rr9+ peeps to follow a RR lead by a (e.g.) rr3 dood (or someone rly RLY unknown!). Simply wont happend! U need a name and if u got some1, then that "name" takes over!

ohh, and plz albs... dont come stating "uhh, ohh, ofc we will follow!". U might, cuz ur some lowlvl/low rr/unknown/useless alb - Get GoL, FC, SS and the other l33t g33ks to follow some dood named "Iplayalittle ButWouldLikeOurRelicsBack" lvl 49.5 and rr2L1 in his 3 man guild (2 irl friends) and I promise u, hell will freeze over and I'll be eating my shorts!

I wanna share a story with you. once i was that random n00b who wanted so bad to do a relic raid. my reasons was for the thrill of leading an army to achive said goal. Roleplaying yes.... i wore Epics and was in a Guild Called 'The Crack suicide Sqaud. it was a nice guild but un heard of in RvR. now thats not to belittle them they was and im sure are still a great bunch, just not what i wanted in the end. So how did this epic wearing noob who was about RR3 manage to get a Realm including GOL FC HB etc to follow me? I spoke to Wildfire the current RR leader, i spoke to the Drunken pally fin and made my plans, then i contacted every GM i could find i used Fin's and wildfires contacts I got emails and i spent Time and effort producing plans to email these people. I resureched my meet points and how i would return etc etc. I wont go into plans. I got the nod from the people i wanted. . Why?? because i showed with plans what i wanted to do and how it would be done. and they siad Albion superpowers as some make em out to be considered it worth a shot. Being in a big guild and having a name helps but it dont mean your will get a relic, the next RR leader could be XXX n00b from guild billynomates and his 2RL frields, on the other hane who ever said it DONT GET ZOYSTER TO RR no offence Zoyster but off the cuff dont work be it random or RR11 from GOL. Basicly I belive I could Lead a RR with a LvL1 Cleric sat in Camelot. with proper plans and the right CG's and the right people given the right tasks it works and if it dont work perple will know it was good planing. basicly You wanna lead a RR talk to those that count. and your dreams of taking a relic will happen, Ask Wildfire, Herbal, NOL Admeral, or any other RR leader cos Im telling you thats how it worked for me.

 

[Belomar]

Lol rly you crack me up, dont need any leadership to arrange a relic defence because its basicly GO snowdonia when the first 100 albs have gathered /y cg join xxx or use emain cg sence most ppl are in that if they have been rvring then go defend.

Perhaps you should try getting a grasp of the context of my reply before you start cracking up. This is not rocket science either.