Thugs - your worse defeat?

[Xythic]

If your DPS is insane then you could kill a BD with a quick stun. However you've also got a healer pet who may just be able to keep the BD alive until he pops a heal pot and strafes/LTs you.

The beauty of playing with a BD is that you can be on 5% against a char and then end the fight with 100% and the other guy eating dirt .

I think the best tank class vs a pre-nerf BD was a pre-nerf Vampiir.

pre nerf vamp > pre nerf BD any day. seeing how tundula used to rape my ass, but it was at the start of where i played my bonedancer, didnt have my super duper template which i finished when thidranki allready was dead -_- & i didn't know all the 31337 straef skillz

 

[Lucius]

pre nerf vamp > pre nerf BD any day. seeing how tundula used to rape my ass, but it was at the start of where i played my bonedancer, didnt have my super duper template which i finished when thidranki allready was dead -_- & i didn't know all the 31337 straef skillz

I never beat Tundula. However, our BDs and I am sure many others could beat other fairly good Vamps.

It's just that Tundula was more than good.

 

[Fuggz]

The way I approached the game seems to be different from most if not all. I found that if I was too good I wouldn't play very well. Only when I was in a pretty weakened state would I fight my best. By this I mean no buffs, toa or rr2 stuff. Each fight I had then would become very exciting and I would have to time everything to perfection or lose. This was why I kept improving. The extent of my improving can be seen in this vid. This isn't anything like one of my best defeats but it shows how I had got to the point where I could time my run-throughs by analyzing the type of opponent and how fast he was, also considering the weapons he was using. I was at the top of my game here and could kill infs very easily if they stood still - and a lot did. Only by learning in a weakened state did I reach this level. If I played super duper alts like many did no way would I have got even partially as good as this. See vid:

YouTube - Buffed inf getting a lesson in combat.

To be honest I could have killed the inf without taking any damage whatsoever but I was so far ahead I realised I could take a few hits easily.

BDs, Vamps and Crush Mercs? I suppose you have played a lot of other alts? I mean they are the meanest alts in the game. Haven't you played a lot less powerful alts in Thid?

 

[CorNokZ]

Nice insta-adding after your realm mate respected your fight...

 

[Fuggz]

Nice insta-adding after your realm mate respected your fight...

Eh? The reaver jumped on me as soon as he could. The inf had sent him a message to come kill me - learnt later on. My realm mate helped me out cos he could see I was in trouble. They all wanted to kill Thugs m8 - not my realm mates.

 

[Fuggz]

Here are a couple of my reaver vids. Theses reavers were prob the best in the game at the time - Whoisyourdaddy and Simiec.

Whoisyourdaddy:
YouTube - Thugs VS Whoisyourdaddy (Reaver)

Simiec:
YouTube - Rock hard Reaver (Simiec) VS Thugs (SB)

Try something like the above as an unbuffed SB!

 

[Xythic]

The way I approached the game seems to be different from most if not all. I found that if I was too good I wouldn't play very well. Only when I was in a pretty weakened state would I fight my best. By this I mean no buffs, toa or rr2 stuff. Each fight I had then would become very exciting and I would have to time everything to perfection or lose. This was why I kept improving. The extent of my improving can be seen in this vid. This isn't anything like one of my best defeats but it shows how I had got to the point where I could time my run-throughs by analyzing the type of opponent and how fast he was, also considering the weapons he was using. I was at the top of my game here and could kill infs very easily if they stood still - and a lot did. Only by learning in a weakened state did I reach this level. If I played super duper alts like many did no way would I have got even partially as good as this. See vid:

YouTube - Buffed inf getting a lesson in combat.

To be honest I could have killed the inf without taking any damage whatsoever but I was so far ahead I realised I could take a few hits easily.

BDs, Vamps and Crush Mercs? I suppose you have played a lot of other alts? I mean they are the meanest alts in the game. Haven't you played a lot less powerful alts in Thid?

if you could do it without taking any hits, then why didn't you do so? bigger accomplishment + wouldn't have to rest -_- you suck at lying, + strafe doesn't mean skills, just means your abusing a bug in the game which shoulda been fixed years ago. but oh well, haven't we all been there abusing it

 

[Fuggz]

if you could do it without taking any hits, then why didn't you do so? bigger accomplishment + wouldn't have to rest -_- you suck at lying, + strafe doesn't mean skills, just means your abusing a bug in the game which shoulda been fixed years ago. but oh well, haven't we all been there abusing it

Yeah but I damn good at abusing it = skills!

 

[Xythic]

Yeah but I damn good at abusing it = skills!

strafing = never was skills, abusing a bug means your basically a cheater. only thing your decent at is weapon swapping & thats the reason you were able to kill buffed players like that, but don't claim to be the best when clearly the best player would be someone whom could take out more people at once - i killed 3 fg's solo in a keep, they were all roglords, and most of them level20, but my odds were pretty low still. best time of my thidranki career when i did so though ;P, point being, don't claim to be the best because you can kill people who plays like shit, he might be buffed, but both those fights were players who played like shit - reaver, sticked you instead of face so you can outstrafe him any day, inf - you popped him & he barely did anything towards you -.-, the other reaver also did the same mistake as the first, + you had to pop heal pot to keep up with him, he might be buffed, but why'd you hesitate to do so, if your the best? why would the best player have to draw into using rescue potions to stay alive?

 

[fettoken]

strafing = never was skills, abusing a bug means your basically a cheater. only thing your decent at is weapon swapping & thats the reason you were able to kill buffed players like that, but don't claim to be the best when clearly the best player would be someone whom could take out more people at once - i killed 3 fg's solo in a keep, they were all roglords, and most of them level20, but my odds were pretty low still. best time of my thidranki career when i did so though ;P, point being, don't claim to be the best because you can kill people who plays like shit, he might be buffed, but both those fights were players who played like shit - reaver, sticked you instead of face so you can outstrafe him any day, inf - you popped him & he barely did anything towards you -.-, the other reaver also did the same mistake as the first, + you had to pop heal pot to keep up with him, he might be buffed, but why'd you hesitate to do so, if your the best? why would the best player have to draw into using rescue potions to stay alive?

Aoe dotting with shaman from a keep into randoms is such a feat... ;D

 

[Fuggz]

strafing = never was skills, abusing a bug means your basically a cheater. only thing your decent at is weapon swapping & thats the reason you were able to kill buffed players like that, but don't claim to be the best when clearly the best player would be someone whom could take out more people at once - i killed 3 fg's solo in a keep, they were all roglords, and most of them level20, but my odds were pretty low still. best time of my thidranki career when i did so though ;P, point being, don't claim to be the best because you can kill people who plays like shit, he might be buffed, but both those fights were players who played like shit - reaver, sticked you instead of face so you can outstrafe him any day, inf - you popped him & he barely did anything towards you -.-, the other reaver also did the same mistake as the first, + you had to pop heal pot to keep up with him, he might be buffed, but why'd you hesitate to do so, if your the best? why would the best player have to draw into using rescue potions to stay alive?

Come on now. I was by far the best. Take away the buffs, toa, toa buffs, rr2 shit and I would have been totally invincible. And your BD would have gone face down in no time too in a duel as my damage output would have been far more than your healers could have kept up with. Eh I am talking to the BD guy right? Had so many names I am a bit confused as to who I am talking too. You lot were the cheaters and not me. Reason you were so good - see above.

By the way I think we are all crazy still talking about this stuff a few years later on but hell it still makes me laugh so why not!

 

[Elkie]

We never got the chance at a solid duel, one we was added on and another. Shame but oh well.

 

[Fuggz]

We never got the chance at a solid duel, one we was added on and another. Shame but oh well.

I think duels mean you are supposed to drop your buffs! You mean a fight - right?

Was your ns called Elkie by the way?

 

[Xythic]

Come on now. I was by far the best. Take away the buffs, toa, toa buffs, rr2 shit and I would have been totally invincible. And your BD would have gone face down in no time too in a duel as my damage output would have been far more than your healers could have kept up with. Eh I am talking to the BD guy right? Had so many names I am a bit confused as to who I am talking too. You lot were the cheaters and not me. Reason you were so good - see above.

By the way I think we are all crazy still talking about this stuff a few years later on but hell it still makes me laugh so why not!

the biggest damage output you have on you is your 2h axe which i've noticed, and the highest damage output axe i can remember of was mourning rage with 6.0 spd which would (with PA) take my ass down to approx 40% health, then put in my insta lifetap and heal pots, your PA wouldn't even scratch me. i've been able to kite 4-5 buffed infils around on my ass without them as much as getting me down to 50% health, all for the cause that i know how to strafe aswell, & im just pointing out, that the one duel we had, i won. and i was unbuffed aswell as you was. and if you can kill one reaver unbuffed, i can kill 3-4, which must make me a better player, no? + aslong as you havent been in thid for the entire time, how can you claim to be the best? you might have soloed & gotten kills, but i've had both my zerg title and my solo title, doesn't make me the most honourable player, nor the best, but the way people hated me on there, and logged off when i appeared, makes me among the best. imo -.-

 

[Elkie]

I think duels mean you are supposed to drop your buffs! You mean a fight - right?

Towards the end I was rarely buffed. So yes I consider it a duel, thank you.

 

[Fuggz]

the biggest damage output you have on you is your 2h axe which i've noticed, and the highest damage output axe i can remember of was mourning rage with 6.0 spd which would (with PA) take my ass down to approx 40% health, then put in my insta lifetap and heal pots, your PA wouldn't even scratch me. i've been able to kite 4-5 buffed infils around on my ass without them as much as getting me down to 50% health, all for the cause that i know how to strafe aswell, & im just pointing out, that the one duel we had, i won. and i was unbuffed aswell as you was. and if you can kill one reaver unbuffed, i can kill 3-4, which must make me a better player, no? + aslong as you havent been in thid for the entire time, how can you claim to be the best? you might have soloed & gotten kills, but i've had both my zerg title and my solo title, doesn't make me the most honourable player, nor the best, but the way people hated me on there, and logged off when i appeared, makes me among the best. imo -.-

I sure as hell can't remember duelling a bd when he was unbuffed m8. I am pretty sure I would have remembered it. Never happened. And I poison kill with repeated re-application of poison so it never stops ticking. 25 in poison will hit peeps for 40+ a time. I also use other means to increase damage and I never use a slow axe but a fast one. Also your straffing would be pointless against me as I know how to counter it. Still we won't know now but I am pretty sure that if all you had to rely on was spellcrafting then you would be dead for sure. I was able to take out untouchable vamps when they appeared. Only after they were twinked did I fail, prior to that I would take them out.

Elkie - well towards the end of my playing I was only messing around - and so were you I think. Knackered suit (always have an excuse) and lack of commitment etc. Pity we never met when I was shooting my mouth off and dead keen.

 

[Elkie]

I sure as hell can't remember duelling a bd when he was unbuffed m8. I am pretty sure I would have remembered it. Never happened. And I poison kill with repeated re-application of poison so it never stops ticking. 25 in poison will hit peeps for 40+ a time. I also use other means to increase damage and I never use a slow axe but a fast one. Also your straffing would be pointless against me as I know how to counter it. Still we won't know now but I am pretty sure that if all you had to rely on was spellcrafting then you would be dead for sure.

Elkie - well towards the end of my playing I was only messing around - and so were you I think. Knackered suit (always have an excuse) and lack of commitment etc. Pity we never met when I was shooting my mouth off and dead keen.

True would of been fun, me and yourself was not shy of a bit of banter.

 

[Fuggz]

A couple of vamp videos:

Dracluv at level 25! - Orange to me! - lost this fight but shows how much damage I did to him before doing so...
YouTube - Draculv VS Thugs (25 Vamp VS SB)

Another Vamp - this time I win - lost the first fight though! Think she made a lot of mistakes in this fight though...Haha
YouTube - Vamp VS Thugs (SB)

I should have stuck some vids on YouTube before now. Am starting to get responses there now too...

 

[Fuggz]

YouTube - Unbeatable Chani inf VS Thugs (SB)

The video that brought it home to me that at last my tactics were working.

I realized I was onto something when I killed this inf. My gameplay had improved to the point that instead of getting smashed to smitherins by slash infs I was now able to kill them whilst unbuffed and they were buffed. In this fight I used a move I had been practising for ages - hit from one side using 2 axes with pillager and then run-through the opponent to turn and hit from the other side with a 2 handed axe and plunderer (2nd part of pillager/plunderer combo). All my tactics were starting to show results and I killed this inf that was thought to be unbeatable - whilst unbuffed! This was made a long time ago in Old Thid.

 

[Xythic]

I sure as hell can't remember duelling a bd when he was unbuffed m8. I am pretty sure I would have remembered it. Never happened. And I poison kill with repeated re-application of poison so it never stops ticking. 25 in poison will hit peeps for 40+ a time. I also use other means to increase damage and I never use a slow axe but a fast one. Also your straffing would be pointless against me as I know how to counter it. Still we won't know now but I am pretty sure that if all you had to rely on was spellcrafting then you would be dead for sure. I was able to take out untouchable vamps when they appeared. Only after they were twinked did I fail, prior to that I would take them out.

Elkie - well towards the end of my playing I was only messing around - and so were you I think. Knackered suit (always have an excuse) and lack of commitment etc. Pity we never met when I was shooting my mouth off and dead keen.

fun how you look past the defeats you have encountered, & my BD wasn't in toa kit, it was spellcrafted level31 gear, & cata gear for hits cap, aswell as a few rog items worth about 100p -.- but i was twinked to death, spend more money on a thidranki toon than my mains in real rvr, that says enough about why i was pretty much undefeatable, and i was able to take out so many as i could - including you.

 

[Fuggz]

fun how you look past the defeats you have encountered, & my BD wasn't in toa kit, it was spellcrafted level31 gear, & cata gear for hits cap, aswell as a few rog items worth about 100p -.- but i was twinked to death, spend more money on a thidranki toon than my mains in real rvr, that says enough about why i was pretty much undefeatable, and i was able to take out so many as i could - including you.

Twisted way to consider if you were good or not. You have the equation upside down. I WAS GOOD - THE BEST - WHY? Because I was WEAKER than my opponents - a lot WEAKER yet I still killed them. I have about a 100 videos of beating buffed opponents whilst unbuffed. Even one of them fights is totally beyond nearly everyone in the game in the same circumstances. What do you have? A memory of a massively twinked bd that sucked life out of his opponents to replenish his own and healer pets that also pump health into him? I feel sorry for you as you have nothing to base your exploits on. Just taking the piss playing such an alt. Impact on Thid? Yeah you probably wrecked it - you and the other bds & vamps that were running around for a while. Who the hell wants to go against such a rediculously hard opponent? The enemies would rather log and many did. Most people would have some remorse after a while of killing people in such an easy manner but no - you went onto better things - some sort of mad title. Your mistakes m8 and not mine. My gameplay is evident for all to see and many emulated it. Who more or less introduced straffing into Thid? Yup me. Who likes to straff with his BD - eh you. Where did you pick that up from? I gonna keep loading my vids onto YouTube and leave em on here for all to see - for years more than likely. People have learned how to play from them and will continue too if the game keeps going. Nice legacy. What you going to leave behind?

 

[Xythic]

Twisted way to consider if you were good or not. You have the equation upside down. I WAS GOOD - THE BEST - WHY? Because I was WEAKER than my opponents - a lot WEAKER yet I still killed them. I have about a 100 videos of beating buffed opponents whilst unbuffed. Even one of them fights is totally beyond nearly everyone in the game in the same circumstances. What do you have? A memory of a massively twinked bd that sucked life out of his opponents to replenish his own and healer pets that also pump health into him? I feel sorry for you as you have nothing to base your exploits on. Just taking the piss playing such an alt. Impact on Thid? Yeah you probably wrecked it - you and the other bds & vamps that were running around for a while. Who the hell wants to go against such a rediculously hard opponent? The enemies would rather log and many did. Most people would have some remorse after a while of killing people in such an easy manner but no - you went onto better things - some sort of mad title. Your mistakes m8 and not mine. My gameplay is evident for all to see and many emulated it. Who more or less introduced straffing into Thid? Yup me. Who likes to straff with his BD - eh you. Where did you pick that up from? I gonna keep loading my vids onto YouTube and leave em on here for all to see - for years more than likely. People have learned how to play from them and will continue too if the game keeps going. Nice legacy. What you going to leave behind?

well, the thing, as i've stated earlier, each fight i've seen with you in it so far, the person you've been up against has ALLWAYS screwed up in more than one way. & as for your statement, i ran unbuffed most of the time when i soloed aswell, never had a decent enough PC to run 2 accounts, so. & being twinked to death just makes me better, but i did play a ridiculously overpowered class in the BG, but that doesn't chang the fact that i was the best. i mean, it was pretty much me who killed the BG in the end. & i was the last person standing in there. + i think i've soloed more through my career than you have aswell, i've been there and done it all. i've seen shadowblades way way way better than you. you may have been the best. Pre NF, but that's quite a few years ago now, right?

anywho, when you quit your bullshit, i'll quit mine. i got no jobs at the moment so i like taking the piss out of you. just tell me when you'll quit it and i'll let you go back to your corner.

 

[Fuggz]

well, the thing, as i've stated earlier, each fight i've seen with you in it so far, the person you've been up against has ALLWAYS screwed up in more than one way. & as for your statement, i ran unbuffed most of the time when i soloed aswell, never had a decent enough PC to run 2 accounts, so. & being twinked to death just makes me better, but i did play a ridiculously overpowered class in the BG, but that doesn't chang the fact that i was the best. i mean, it was pretty much me who killed the BG in the end. & i was the last person standing in there. + i think i've soloed more through my career than you have aswell, i've been there and done it all. i've seen shadowblades way way way better than you. you may have been the best. Pre NF, but that's quite a few years ago now, right?

anywho, when you quit your bullshit, i'll quit mine. i got no jobs at the moment so i like taking the piss out of you. just tell me when you'll quit it and i'll let you go back to your corner.

There ain't no better sb than me even now. My style is just as unique now as years ago. Why? Because it is so damn hard to use. Skill, pure and simple, and a shit load of practise. No idea about level 50 as my game play would probably not work there. Even so I could be a lot nastier if my sbs were crit based. I meleed everyone down with no first strike advantage. I could have been crit based and dished out just as much damage in melee as my full axe spec, whilst getting the big perf boost. Tried it and was too nasty for my liking. I had a go on the US server the other day - Thid. Still the same and I was dropping infs once again. Ain't changed.

Come on now - read my posts - search for Thugs or MKJ and see how much bullshit I had to put up with and how many upstarts I silenced. The battleground forums were more or less just for my own personal use at one time. Hell I even requested my own forum as my postings were so sought after and frequent.

You are like a pale shadow in comparison. We are both probably completely off our rockers though. Hell it is a laugh and I love bragging. I is the 'King of Braggers' too by a long ways.

 

[Xythic]

There ain't no better sb than me even now. My style is just as unique now as years ago. Why? Because it is so damn hard to use. Skill, pure and simple, and a shit load of practise. No idea about level 50 as my game play would probably not work there. Even so I could be a lot nastier if my sbs were crit based. I meleed everyone down with no first strike advantage. I could have been crit based and dished out just as much damage in melee as my full axe spec, whilst getting the big perf boost. Tried it and was too nasty for my liking. I had a go on the US server the other day - Thid. Still the same and I was dropping infs once again. Ain't changed.

Come on now - read my posts - search for Thugs or MKJ and see how much bullshit I had to put up with and how many upstarts I silenced. The battleground forums were more or less just for my own personal use at one time. Hell I even requested my own forum as my postings were so sought after and frequent.

You are like a pale shadow in comparison. We are both probably completely off our rockers though. Hell it is a laugh and I love bragging. I is the 'King of Braggers' too by a long ways.

you haven't been around all the time, nor in the end. and i can say that the best SB is by far not you. *looks at Toxicsb* as for me being a shadow, search for one of my old names on here aswell and you'll see what i had to put up with. i archeived more than you did in my thidranki career. /me proud to be an ex-geek

 

[Fuggz]

Toxicsb - bah. Take away all the fineries - buffs, toa and god knows what else and what have you got left? You think Toxic could ever pull off some of my defeats? Would like to see Toxic take out the 2 reavers above when in my suit only. Just wouldn't happen even if he managed to get a perf in first.

Any idiot would get grief playing a bd. Try and take flack like I had to whilst playing an unbuffed sb and still managing to silence your critics. Different ball game entirely.

 

[Xythic]

Toxicsb - bah. Take away all the fineries - buffs, toa and god knows what else and what have you got left? You think Toxic could ever pull off some of my defeats? Would like to see Toxic take out the 2 reavers above when in my suit only. Just wouldn't happen even if he managed to get a perf in first.

Any idiot would get grief playing a bd. Try and take flack like I had to whilst playing an unbuffed sb and still managing to silence your critics. Different ball game entirely.

been there done that, got bored & played a ridiculously overpowered class
i played a kitted out shadowblade aswell in thid, not exactly hard when you know how to strafe right aslong as you still land your own styles, + toxic would drop your sorry ass any day despise him being unbuffed and you aswell. stop living in the past and move on. you were good, today you'd be a pile of crap. it's nearly worth renewing my subs just to kick your silly ass once more -_-

 

[Fuggz]

been there done that, got bored & played a ridiculously overpowered class
i played a kitted out shadowblade aswell in thid, not exactly hard when you know how to strafe right aslong as you still land your own styles, + toxic would drop your sorry ass any day despise him being unbuffed and you aswell. stop living in the past and move on. you were good, today you'd be a pile of crap. it's nearly worth renewing my subs just to kick your silly ass once more -_-

Never lost to an unbuffed inf for over 2 years. Only lost to an sb in a duel when I was absolutely hammered and I redressed that before collapsing.

Move on? Well I am switching off my daoc video site in a few days time so there will be no need to return here to find more videos. Should be the final nail in the coffin with regard to this forum for me.

Kick my silly arse? You mean renew subs on your BD? Haha - yeah sure.

Pile of crap? What makes you think anything is any different now? As I told you it is exactly the same. Only thing i see is that a great many try to strafe now - introduced by me - but like I have said it ain't no good trying it against me as I more or less invented it. Taken the best on m8 in duels and dropped em all - including crush mercs, paladins and slash infs. Thid is still exactly as it was when I played and still no-one plays like I do. Unique m8 - unique.

You? One button life sucking spammer. Not nice...

 

[CorNokZ]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You invented strafing!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Best joke ever

 

[Fuggz]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! You invented strafing!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Best joke ever

In Thid for sure. No-one did it in Thid before me. It was another bone of contention against my playstyle. When peeps could see how effective it was they started to straffe too. Trouble was I was a lot better than practically everyone at straffing and learnt how to counteract it. If you are going to do something then do it right!

 

[CorNokZ]

Well then say you were the first in thid to use it because you probably were, instead of saying you practically invented it