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[Gwadien]

Imagine <insert whatever irrelevant fantasy you can come up with here>. Yeah. Just "imagine" eh?

We don't need to imagine. Reality is enough: A murderer played the race card and indoctrinated police started acting according to their racial training, and they handcuffed a white lad who'd been falsely accused to die of his stab wounds whilst crying out - all the whilst calling him a liar because they believed he was racist.


I said religious minorities and our policies affecting all walks of life. I'm well aware he was Sikh, and Sikhs get special legal or "two tier" treatment on knife-carry laws, and that muslims get special legal or "two tier" exemptions on animal cruelty laws.

But the white christian or non-religious people don't, do they. What special exemptions for being indigenous British do we get? I fancy carrying a knife and slitting animals throats.

Oh wait. I don't! I live in the first post-religious country on the planet and we've gone some distance to relegating these abhorrent idiocies into the past - yet I'm bending the knee to barbaric religions rather than saying "if you live here, you follow these rules, just like everybody else". Because if I said it, I'd get called racist.


Your beloved fucking Kier admitted in Parliament this afternoon that this was a problem.

Because it's a fucking problem.

But Keir's part of the problem. Labour are doubling down on the same shit that they introduced the last time they were in power.

Aaand we'll stop there, getting too emotional again

Actually, no.

So you're telling me you actually believe that the police training for a perceived racist attack is to ignore possible death to deal with the racist part first?

 

[Scouse]

I'm not arguing it was racial at all, I think it was lazy incompetence. Occam's Razor always points to incompetence over conspiracy.

Absolutely it was incompetence. 100%.

But they turned up "I was attacked by this racist piece of shit" - and their brains went "that must be it" and acted (incompetently) according to their diversity & anti-racism training (or whatever).

I mean, they were incompetent and still wrong - but absolutely policy is the foundation for the way the idiots acted.

 

[Scouse]

So you're telling me you actually believe that the police training for a perceived racist attack is to ignore possible death to deal with the racist part first?

No. I'm clearly not saying that. And if that's where you genuinely ended up after what I wrote I can't help ya.

 

[Gwadien]

Absolutely it was incompetence. 100%.

But they turned up "I was attacked by this racist piece of shit" - and their brains went "that must be it" and acted (incompetently) according to their diversity & anti-racism training (or whatever).

I mean, they were incompetent and still wrong - but absolutely policy is the foundation for the way the idiots acted.

Bollocks, you do not know this.

Nobody knows this.

As for your part about Keir talking about it in Parliament - yeah, because he's pandering to the Reform lot, rather than doing the sensible grown up thing and let proper processes run.

White lives matter I guess.

 

[Scouse]

I guess the concepts must be very threatening to your worldview. Sad.

The fact that you use "white lives matter" and can only conceive of it as it being a racist, rather than potentially equalitarian concept, a kickback against racist ideology (which, whilst undoubtedly is adopted wholeheartedly by racists, isn't inherently a racist idea) kinda sets where you're at.

All lives matter. No matter the colour of people's skin.

 

[DaGaffer]

Absolutely it was incompetence. 100%.

But they turned up "I was attacked by this racist piece of shit" - and their brains went "that must be it" and acted (incompetently) according to their diversity & anti-racism training (or whatever).

I mean, they were incompetent and still wrong - but absolutely policy is the foundation for the way the idiots acted.

Or, counterpoint, they just believed the first person who spoke to them. You're filling in a lot of blanks yourself while literally claiming they're doing the same.

 

[Scouse]

Or, counterpoint, they just believed the first person who spoke to them. You're filling in a lot of blanks yourself while literally claiming they're doing the same.

I do like your "occam's razor" shortcut and it explains some of the issue, but not all of it.

No, it's not 'normal' policing for cops turn up and believe the first person they speak to. That's not a fair assessment of them - they have extensive training to counter this exact cognitive bias = not to anchor on the first narrative. They're trained to separate allegation from evidence, prioritise medical emergency and constantly reassess.

But this didn't happen here. And when they didn't do that, it followed a pattern - that is borne out in the footage:

• Modern UK police training emphasises believing victims of hate incidents.
• Officers are taught to treat allegations of racism as high‑risk, high‑priority
• This can create a cognitive shortcut

You can see that exact pattern in the footage: they instantly accept the racism claim, treat the alleged racist as the threat and ignore the bleeding collapsing desparate victim in front of their own eyes.

Their training caused a cognitive shortcut. And that's why Starmer is saying there's a problem with the training materials and that we're going to look at them.

He's not saying that simply because Farage is a thundercunt. He's saying it because it's true.

Absolutely this was incompetence. But it was made more likely because it was trained in.