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[Scouse]

SpaceX and Blue Origin aren't being subsidised - they're being paid to develop cheap, reliable launch systems at massive savings to the taxpayer.

Whilst I like the other stuff you said (and I'll have a look at it) - this is absolutely a question of optics. If you previously funded NASA and all the engineers there, and then you defund NASA and give government contracts to private companies, who hire the engineers, then whether you call it subsidy or not is kind of irrelevant.

Ultimately SpaceX will own the technology - not the public. Despite the public paying through government contracts.

Edit: Now, whether we're arguing about whether the outcomes are better...

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Scouse]

Question: Anyone ever done a Nazi salute, in jest?

I mean, I know I have. Last week in fact. Repeatedly. With my Uncle. Were laughing our asses off at the Peter Sellers character from Dr Strangelove.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZct-itCwPE

I mean, you all know where I'm going with this

 

[DaGaffer]

They're in direct opposition unfortunately - unless we can resolve the massive carbon cost of wanging stuff into space (or permanent radiation cost if we use nuclear fission + ablative layers).

Absolutely trivial in global terms, barely a rounding error.

I'm still not seeing how it's profitable business any time in the short or even medium term (notwithstanding the space internet business). It's looking like very long term + government contracts. And "government contracts" = another phrase for taking taxpayers money and giving it to private citizens.

That rather depends on what they end up doing. It's massively high risk, but, if space resources (asteroid mining in particular) turn out to be doable, then the dividends are incredible and end the pollution of those industries on Earth. It's certainly worth a go and if the billionaires can fund/finance this, great.

But;

Musk and Bezos are cunts, but the engineers building these systems are doing a fine job. And Musk is right when he compares non-reusable rockets to a 747 that gets thrown away after a single flight. Just imagine how much flying would cost if you had to chuck the plane away at the end of the flight. 100 years from now going to the Moon might cost the same as going to Australia.

While Musk and Bezos lean into Robert Heinlein wish fulfilment, that's just about OK, it's when the billionaires start leaning into Ayn Rand, or think Snow Crash is a good template for society then we've got problems, or even worse the ones who think a bit of thinning the herd with an apocalypse is the way forward, Peter Theil for example.

 

[Scouse]

That rather depends on what they end up doing. It's massively high risk, but, if space resources (asteroid mining in particular) turn out to be doable, then the dividends are incredible and end the pollution of those industries on Earth. It's certainly worth a go and if the billionaires can fund/finance this, great.

Yeah, but then, share price question. Musk'll be dead before they can bring back metals from asteroids and get them safely down our gravity well.

So why bother with the shares?

While Musk and Bezos lean into Robert Heinlein wish fulfilment, that's just about OK, it's when the billionaires start leaning into Ayn Rand, or think Snow Crash is a good template for society then we've got problems, or even worse the ones who think a bit of thinning the herd with an apocalypse is the way forward, Peter Theil for example.

I think this is pretty much a given.

Even Musk & Bezos. I reckon they'd happily cull half the human race.

I mean, I would. And so would you

 

[Lamp]

New Miami police uniforms

 

[BloodOmen]

New Miami police uniforms

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... LOL, that can't be real.

 

[DaGaffer]

Yeah, but then, share price question. Musk'll be dead before they can bring back metals from asteroids and get them safely down our gravity well.

So why bother with the shares?

These bozos all think they'll still be around in 100 years; longevity or singularity, take your pick.

I think this is pretty much a given.

Even Musk & Bezos. I reckon they'd happily cull half the human race.

I mean, I would. And so would you

Musk seems very keen on growing the human race as much as possible. Personally.

 

[Scouse]

Musk seems very keen on growing the human race as much as possible. Personally.

The right sort I guess.

If I was a mega multi billionaire I'd have thousands of kids.

And thousands of nannies to take care of them.

 

[BloodOmen]

The backlash and fight back begins


View: https://youtu.be/l795vIhIbLY

 

[georgie]

Musk seems very keen on growing the human race as much as possible. Personally.

 

[Scouse]

Need to ban trawler fishing:

Dead sharks and fish found washed up on Welsh beaches

The dead fish, at Saundersfoot and Pembrey beaches, were probably part of a discarded catch.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Scouse]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiKIqXQKPlo

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Overdriven]

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See that's where this fails. I'm not going to turn 40. Next year is my last year in my 30s. Then I start reversing. In 2057 I'll be 0 again.

E: I can't do maths, probably 2067..

 

[Scouse]

I had a rule from 40. You always have to stand up when putting your socks on. One legged.

Trains one legged balance and stops you becoming the guy who sits down in a chair for a task you should be good for into your 90's

 

[DaGaffer]

I had a rule from 40. You always have to stand up when putting your socks on. One legged.

Trains one legged balance and stops you becoming the guy who sits down in a chair for a task you should be good for into your 90's

How do put your socks on stood up not one-legged?

 

[Scouse]

How do put your socks on stood up not one-legged?

Fair point.

As in, stand up straight, lift the leg. Don't be bending down to it.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Tom]

I had a rule from 40. You always have to stand up when putting your socks on. One legged.

Trains one legged balance and stops you becoming the guy who sits down in a chair for a task you should be good for into your 90's

Is it ok, when you sit in a chair, to say "ahhhh ya bastard"?

 

[Scouse]

photo of me

My socks are longer and pinker.

 

[Scouse]

Is it ok, when you sit in a chair, to say "ahhhh ya bastard"?

Is that when you come?

If so. Yep. Fine. Totes.

 

[BloodOmen]

So google are going to kill their own search engine, they're going to start putting AI generated results first in search results.

 

[Deebs]

It is ok I have watched all the training videos several times so know what is to come and will start preparing for it.

 

[Lamp]

View: https://youtu.be/8JVS6MRmYP4?si=8dn4pPz26pPAMoSo

 

[Gwadien]

So google are going to kill their own search engine, they're going to start putting AI generated results first in search results.

Hasn't this been a thing for a while?

I don't see how this kills their search engine - if anything it's just a way more elaborate form of 'did you mean?'



Like this?

 

[BloodOmen]

Hasn't this been a thing for a while?

I don't see how this kills their search engine - if anything it's just a way more elaborate form of 'did you mean?'

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Like this?

I think it's meant to get worse than that, not sure tbh.

 

[Raven]

It's usually just a direct rip of Wikipedia anyway.

 

[BloodOmen]

It's usually just a direct rip of Wikipedia anyway.

Aye, I stopped using Google ages ago, i just use duckduckgo now, stops all the tracking shite

 

[Ormorof]

Except for Microsoft who paid them to allow tracking