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Job

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Anyway you should all be delighted..as Terry Christian tweeted, hopefully it comes over here and takes out all those old leave voters.
 

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Fixed it for you.

Seriously? Spanish flu killed more people than WW1, at least 2.8% of the entire population of planet Earth. It was probably the second highest death rate from disease in human history
 

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Fixed it for you.
Makes no difference whether you call it "up" there or "down" there.

The important figure is 50 million people, isn't it?

Direct question: Is that not important to you @Job?

Whether it's up, or down, or however you like to classify it - that's the best measure of absolute risk for a similar infection in numbers. Fifty million people.

Tell us why potentially 50 million people isn't something we should be worried about. As @DaGaffer said - Spanish Flu killed more people than World War 1.

Tells us why this is something you feel the need to belittle and downplay the importance of.
 

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Anyway you should all be delighted..as Terry Christian tweeted, hopefully it comes over here and takes out all those old leave voters.
Yes. Because what we want to see is the deaths of elderly people on a big scale in this country. We don't love our own families. If they voted leave we all desparately want them to die.

Starting with Tam's parents. Can't wait to see the two of them dead and my o/h crying into her pillow months on end because they were robbed from her by a disease. I mean, they voted leave (the dumb fucks) - despite never really understanding what that meant. So they deserve death, and all remoners want to see that.
 

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Education for education's sake is valuable in it's own right.

Apart from being important to enrich the life of the student it enriches us all, every day.

Ask yourself this: who do you like to hang out with? People who know fuck all, or people with interest?

Education offers way more societal value than being a poop-tube churning out drones for the jobs market.
I believe I called the degree unpractical not pointless...
 

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Seriously? Spanish flu killed more people than WW1, at least 2.8% of the entire population of planet Earth. It was probably the second highest death rate from disease in human history
Yup we just have to hope the current one isnt as easily spreadable
 

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I guess I'll have to say it again.
I was pointing out media sensationalism., not disagreeing with efforts to contain it.
 

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I was pointing out media sensationalism., not disagreeing with efforts to contain it.
And you brought a graph to the party, that showed it could potentially be as bad as Spanish Flu - which killed more than WW1.

So your accusations of "media sensationalism" aren't fair. The media is giving it it's due importance - because if an outbreak of a disease is happening with the potential to cause more death than World War 1 then it absolutely should be consistent front page news, with regular updates.

WAY more than *any* terrorist attack should be given. Because all of terrorism, ever, hasn't added up to 50 million deaths.

So STFU, dumbass.
 

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I believe I called the degree unpractical not pointless...

Thing is, even if you do a vocational degree these days, you’ll probably still have to do professional or post-grad qualifications of some sort anyway. I’ve said this before, as the basic degree becomes a glut on the market, where you went will become even more important (than it is already) than what you did at undergraduate level. I’d tell my kids to do Medieval Poetry at Cambridge over Business Studies from pretty much anywhere. Is it fair? No. Is it a basic truth? Yes.
 

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If an individual wants to spend 4 years enjoying the university experience and rack up loans then this is fine - but still many are shocked in the market place when a person with 3 years experience and a vocational qualification is taken over their arts degree (not just in the UK). Most people in my profession take a related degree to maximize the number of exemptions they get during the professional phase - equally I have employees current and old who did 2 degrees then took professional exams, however they are still behind in comparison with those who went via the vocational route.

As for who I drink down the pub with - my circle of friends have people from all walks of life - do not concern yourself with my enrichment I do not struggle here ;)
 

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If an individual wants to spend 4 years enjoying the university experience and rack up loans then this is fine - but still many are shocked in the market place when a person with 3 years experience and a vocational qualification is taken over their arts degree (not just in the UK). Most people in my profession take a related degree to maximize the number of exemptions they get during the professional phase - equally I have employees current and old who did 2 degrees then took professional exams, however they are still behind in comparison with those who went via the vocational route.

As for who I drink down the pub with - my circle of friends have people from all walks of life - do not concern yourself with my enrichment I do not struggle here ;)

I did Business & Management for my first degree and that course and its sister Finance & Accounting degree (we shared the first year syllabus) were the highest UCCA points requirement for the subects in the country (us and UMIST actually). However, when we were all doing the milkround in our final year, my accounting friends found that when it came to Big 4 accounting firms, "any old shite from a redbrick or above" was more attractive to recruiters than a highly relevant 1st from Salford. That's when I learned my first harsh lesson about where being more important than what. And immediately went off to remedy the problem with a Masters.
 

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Oh I have no doubt .... but why in a sky fairy’s name is working in the “Big 4” the be and end all - I have worked with so many awesome finance individuals who did not come via that route..... at one point one of the large orgs I worked for specifically stopped recruiting them as the success rate to convert to commercial life specifically communication with less well educated co workers was a disaster.

Even if you do an alternative degree, in finance to be a CFO you have to do your professional exams - the choice of whether one wants exemptions or not or whether you want to be Chartered Finance / Chartered Management or Certified is very
personal and will determine the type of finance professional you decide to be long term :). For me I absolutely did not want to be an auditor so I took the CIMA route :)
 

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Oh I have no doubt .... but why in a sky fairy’s name is working in the “Big 4” the be and end all - I have worked with so many awesome finance individuals who did not come via that route..... at one point one of the large orgs I worked for specifically stopped recruiting them as the success rate to convert to commercial life specifically communication with less well educated co workers was a disaster.

Even if you do an alternative degree, in finance to be a CFO you have to do your professional exams - the choice of whether one wants exemptions or not or whether you want to be Chartered Finance / Chartered Management or Certified is very
personal and will determine the type of finance professional you decide to be long term :). For me I absolutely did not want to be an auditor so I took the CIMA route :)

I completely agree.

Just because your academic career is from great schools and universities doesn't mean you're good at your job.
 

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Had beans on toast this morning.

Just found a baked bean on the kitchen door. 10 feet from where I was eating them :eek:

Will add beans to my ever growing list of quantum virtual particles.
 

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Nothing to do with the fact your missus serves your food at you with a tennis racquet.
 

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I notice that banks were doing it too - settled for no jail time.

Still legal in England.
 

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WTF are "social media errors of judgement"?

What did he actually say? It's a bit of a shit news story if they don't tell us what he actually said that meant a guy who's been fronting ITV news for 30 years has been sacked.


Edit: Ah:
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Guy was black. But doesn't prove racism tbh. It's just ITV avoiding the appearance of it.
 

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WTF are "social media errors of judgement"?

What did he actually say? It's a bit of a shit news story if they don't tell us what he actually said that meant a guy who's been fronting ITV news for 30 years has been sacked.


Edit: Ah:
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Guy was black. But doesn't prove racism tbh. It's just ITV avoiding the appearance of it.

So he gets sacked after 40 years for quoting a bit of Shakespeare? Who was he having a go at? Please say it was David Lammy. The very definition of ignorant posturing for the cheap seats.
 

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WTF are "social media errors of judgement"?

What did he actually say? It's a bit of a shit news story if they don't tell us what he actually said that meant a guy who's been fronting ITV news for 30 years has been sacked.


Edit: Ah:
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Guy was black. But doesn't prove racism tbh. It's just ITV avoiding the appearance of it.
There has to be more to this...bit of a coincidence that newsreader cuts are being announced at the bbc.
Funny how things look ridiculous when you dont agree with the outcome.
 

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Lately I seem to be watching an awful lot of woodworking videos. The skill required is impressive.

 

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So he gets sacked after 40 years for quoting a bit of Shakespeare? Who was he having a go at? Please say it was David Lammy. The very definition of ignorant posturing for the cheap seats.
I heard he was talking about bbc people being pricks or something.
 

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Its not a racially contexted comment in any form...in fact the original poster didnt even shout racism because hes an fair man prepared to debate.

I think he'll be very embarrassed at losing his cool and reposting it in that context.
 

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Lately I seem to be watching an awful lot of woodworking videos. The skill required is impressive.



I watched that one a couple of months ago - it's fascinating. I'm getting more an more drawn into restoration vids....
 

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