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[Raven]

All whites are racist in the same way as all Germans support the Nazi war machine.

Complete bollocks spouted by stupid people.

But she didn't say that, what she actually said was kind of factually correct, ish. White people have gained from slavery. On the same note, so did today's black people gain advantage, western civilisation as a whole has benefited from slavery.

She also failed to point out that it was mostly black people that actually rounded up black people to sell into slavery.

 

[Raven]

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[Job]

All whites are racist in the same way as all Germans support the Nazi war machine.

Complete bollocks spouted by stupid people.

But she didn't say that, what she actually said was kind of factually correct, ish. White people have gained from slavery. On the same note, so did today's black people gain advantage, western civilisation as a whole has benefited from slavery.

She also failed to point out that it was mostly black people that actually rounded up black people to sell into slavery.

No she did say all whites are racist in a seperate comment about Nazis.
Sbe lost her job for that.

 

[Scouse]

Link.

 

[Raven]

that directly funded both the Navy and the Industrial Revolution,

Sorry, no, calling bollocks there.

The navy, possibly, a bit, but not really, it was just an extension of dominance that was 500 years in the making. While we may have increased our naval power to protect certain interests in the Caribbean, its a bit of whataboutery to be factually correct, as an empire we would have increased our navy regardless of slavery in a more technologically advanced world. As an island nation we were just so much better at it than the others.

As for the industrial revolution, U wot m8?? We had plenty of man-stock to sate our needs for labour, very few slaves "worked the land" as are traditionally painted, they were mostly servants over here, not labourers. Our manpower revolution was when the country bumkins left the country and pitched up in Birmingham and the like. Very little in the way of slaves had anything at all to do with the industrial revolution. Financially it cost fuck all to set up a factory, it was more of a technological cost (not even a cost, as such) ie the design of the machinery itself. Yes, sure slaves might have provided some of the raw materials, but plenty was local too, by far and away more than foreign.

Narcotics were just a sub-trade in the greater scheme of things and only really affected China (Hong Kong) profitable but virtually no affect on the slave trade, the drugs would have kept coming regardless.

As for (what is now known as) India, we rocked up to a land mass that had been at constant war for hundreds of years and gave them peace and law (and railways, which are better than ours!) they were perfectly happy at the time and except for the most desperate, angry nationalists, are still happy with what we left them. Yes sure, half the country decided to go back to being medieval but fuck it, I don't think we have much to feel guilty about there...not that we should feel especially guilty or proud of our fathers failures/achievements.

 

[Gwadien]

I'd take issue with the line about Britain's encouragement of the caste system; Hindus are very quick to blame everything on the British, even their own culture. The fact is the British relied on the Brahmins and the Brahmins enriched themselves by reinforcing the already extant caste system which the Mughals had, not so much supressed as much as introduced alternative versions of servitude. Indians have been doing a fuckton of revisionist history over the last 20 years; if they can pin something on the Brits rather than taking responsibility for their own shit, they will. Britain could never have run India for 250 years without the active help of a significant Indian elite.

Yes, but the British didn't go to India and say oo this Caste system is a bit like slavery and therefore wrong, they encouraged it.

 

[Job]

Link.

Allready posted

 

[Ormorof]

Sorry, no, calling bollocks there.

The navy, possibly, a bit, but not really, it was just an extension of dominance that was 500 years in the making. While we may have increased our naval power to protect certain interests in the Caribbean, its a bit of whataboutery to be factually correct, as an empire we would have increased our navy regardless of slavery in a more technologically advanced world. As an island nation we were just so much better at it than the others.

As for the industrial revolution, U wot m8?? We had plenty of man-stock to sate our needs for labour, very few slaves "worked the land" as are traditionally painted, they were mostly servants over here, not labourers. Our manpower revolution was when the country bumkins left the country and pitched up in Birmingham and the like. Very little in the way of slaves had anything at all to do with the industrial revolution. Financially it cost fuck all to set up a factory, it was more of a technological cost (not even a cost, as such) ie the design of the machinery itself. Yes, sure slaves might have provided some of the raw materials, but plenty was local too, by far and away more than foreign.

Narcotics were just a sub-trade in the greater scheme of things and only really affected China (Hong Kong) profitable but virtually no affect on the slave trade, the drugs would have kept coming regardless.

As for (what is now known as) India, we rocked up to a land mass that had been at constant war for hundreds of years and gave them peace and law (and railways, which are better than ours!) they were perfectly happy at the time and except for the most desperate, angry nationalists, are still happy with what we left them. Yes sure, half the country decided to go back to being medieval but fuck it, I don't think we have much to feel guilty about there...not that we should feel especially guilty or proud of our fathers failures/achievements.

Please you make it sound like the british empire was some sort of justice league in a boat bringing peace and law for all

Peace and law through brutal oppression (witht the help of the indian elite who were more tha happy to benefit) with the aim of enriching the aristocracy and increasing their power

The shameful thing here is not the history itself, but failure to accept that The Empire was not all a good thing, infact for many on the receiving end it was a nightmare.

Most historical events and characters have at least two sides (see Oliver Cromwell, loved by republicans in the uk, admired as a reformer by others, reviled as a butcher in ireland)

 

[DaGaffer]

Sorry, no, calling bollocks there.

The navy, possibly, a bit, but not really, it was just an extension of dominance that was 500 years in the making. While we may have increased our naval power to protect certain interests in the Caribbean, its a bit of whataboutery to be factually correct, as an empire we would have increased our navy regardless of slavery in a more technologically advanced world. As an island nation we were just so much better at it than the others.

As for the industrial revolution, U wot m8?? We had plenty of man-stock to sate our needs for labour, very few slaves "worked the land" as are traditionally painted, they were mostly servants over here, not labourers. Our manpower revolution was when the country bumkins left the country and pitched up in Birmingham and the like. Very little in the way of slaves had anything at all to do with the industrial revolution. Financially it cost fuck all to set up a factory, it was more of a technological cost (not even a cost, as such) ie the design of the machinery itself. Yes, sure slaves might have provided some of the raw materials, but plenty was local too, by far and away more than foreign.

Narcotics were just a sub-trade in the greater scheme of things and only really affected China (Hong Kong) profitable but virtually no affect on the slave trade, the drugs would have kept coming regardless.

As for (what is now known as) India, we rocked up to a land mass that had been at constant war for hundreds of years and gave them peace and law (and railways, which are better than ours!) they were perfectly happy at the time and except for the most desperate, angry nationalists, are still happy with what we left them. Yes sure, half the country decided to go back to being medieval but fuck it, I don't think we have much to feel guilty about there...not that we should feel especially guilty or proud of our fathers failures/achievements.

We didn't use slaves directly to make the industrial revolution, we used the vast amounts of money made from sugar to invest in the industrial revolution. It was also because British sugar and slaves were managed by private companies, not directly by the Crown (the French used companies but the King owned them all) that the profit from one could easily be used to directly fund the other (stock markets weren't invented by the British but we took the ball and ran with it), and tolerate failed schemes, and it was.

If slavery had actually been a thing on British soil, the Industrial Revolution would have struggled to gain traction, unpaid labour makes the economic argument for for mechanisation more difficult, especially if there's an excess of supply; it was the lack of labour and the relatively high cost of it, that was one of the reasons (along with Joint stock companies and the raw materials being handily close together) that made the Industrial Revolution take off in Britain rather than elsewhere, but make no mistake, it was money from the Caribbean that got the whole show on the road.

 

[Scouse]

Please you make it sound like the british empire was some sort of justice league in a boat bringing peace and law for all

But it's true! Brit-hater

 

[Hawkwind]

'Okay, what the heck is this?'

Damn ugly beastie washed up after the storms

 

[Hawkwind]

Yes, but the British didn't go to India and say oo this Caste system is a bit like slavery and therefore wrong, they encouraged it.

So because we did not actively fight against their cultural rules we are the bad guys? It was in existence for 3000+ years before we turned up!

 

[Raven]

So, vegans can't use £10 notes any more either.

 

[Raven]

lol

New Hellboy actor Kim praises Ed Skrein

He is half Korean, not half Japanese.

RACISM

 

[Job]

Japanese are basically Koreans

 

[CorNokZ]

Japanese are basically Koreans

Brits are basically Pakistanis

 

[Gwadien]

Brits are basically Pakistanis

Let me adjust my turban and express my outrage at this, afterwards I'm going to the Gurdwara (where muslims pray) to pray to Vishnu to have you killed.

 

[Job]

Just looking at the Korean ancestry arguments for Japan, seems they make up 98.5% of the population.


As of December 2015 Japan had 13,831 asylum applications under review.[16] In 2016, more than 10,000 applications for refugee status in Japan were received and in the same year 28 asylum applications were approved.[17] In 2015, more than 7,500 people applied for refugee status and 27 asylum applications were approved. In 2014, more than 5000 applications were made and 11 applications were approved.[18] Recent low approval rates for asylum applications follow historic trends; in a 22-year period from 1982 to 2004, a total of 330 applications for asylum were approved, an average of 15 per year.[

 

[Raven]

Liberal unable to mention any historical figure without adding that they were racist

 

[Scouse]

Let me adjust my turban and express my outrage at this, afterwards I'm going to the Gurdwara (where muslims pray) to pray to Vishnu to have you killed.

Hindu, innit.

 

[Raven]

Sikhs, actually (the temple)

They are brown though aren't they?

That unconscious racism is showing its ugly head again @Gwadien, careful now.

 

[caLLous]

 

[Gwadien]

Sikhs, actually (the temple)

They are brown though aren't they?

That unconscious racism is showing its ugly head again @Gwadien, careful now.

Are you serious?

 

[Raven]

I don't know, are you?

 

[Scouse]

Are you serious?

He's just being his usual humourless nasty self.

 

[Raven]

Morning, Stalker.

Just got up?

Still "not engaging" yet still, somehow commenting on or quoting every single post I make?

Good to know, makes me feel all fuzzy inside

 

[Scouse]

Hey, if you want to be like that to @Gwadien's clearly humourous comment then fine.

Was talking to gwad, not you. You got a facepalm for being deliberately obstinate. If you don't like 'em then try chilling out and ratchet back on the faux-anger eh?

Place would be a bit more pleasant and lighthearted...

 

[Bodhi]

Hey, if you want to be like that to @Gwadien's clearly humourous comment then fine.

Was talking to gwad, not you. You got a facepalm for being deliberately obstinate. If you don't like 'em then try chilling out and ratchet back on the faux-anger eh?

Place would be a bit more pleasant and lighthearted...

Pot and Kettle come to mind.

 

[Raven]

Hey, if you want to be like that to @Gwadien's clearly humourous comment then fine.

Was talking to gwad, not you. You got a facepalm for being deliberately obstinate. If you don't like 'em then try chilling out and ratchet back on the faux-anger eh?

Place would be a bit more pleasant and lighthearted...

Oh no, not a facepalm, how could you?!

The place would be nicer if you weren't such a massive, argumentative bellend.

 

[caLLous]

The place would be nicer if you weren't such a massive, argumentative bellend.

It's like you don't even realise you're talking about yourself.