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Job

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Er...I mean whos going to take a contract out on a Note 8, when thst baby could be out next year.
 

Zarjazz

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I went wine tasting in California this weekend in 35C heat, driving around in a convertible, basking in the sun. All very civilized and relaxing, well ... until I saw this ....

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Problem is every time I see some story on the telly about a little Tarquin or Joquasta wearing a dress or getting all their hair cut off, there's usually one of those knit-your-own-muesli parents in the background. While parents should encourage their children to be all they can be (copyright US Army), they also have a duty of care to protect them; sending them off to get abused by the other kids fails in that duty. Now, you can certainly say that's the fault of the other kids, and you'd be entirely right, but kids are barely socialised little pricks and programmed to destroy those who don't fit in. Parents don't need to stick their boy children in a dress, they could opt for more neutral options, but they're choosing to make a political point at their kids' expense.

Reminds me years ago I was on a bus and these parents boarded tattoos and piercings everywhere all dressed like goths followed behind by their young daughter who was dressed "normal" not an inch of black or sign of piercings or anything. Clearly they have the child's interests at heart. I was expecting her to look like Wednesday from the Addams Family.
 

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Why would I ever bend my phone? Wasn't that Nokia's thing back in the early 2000's, which almost ended up killing the company?
 

DaGaffer

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Cause its bendable? Why do i care if it bends. I want it to take notes and draw stuffs and such not bend particularly.

Because in theory you can have a tab that takes up the pocket space of a phone. Its been a long-term logical next step for the screen manufacturers for years now; I was always hoping they'd come up with a screen like a scroll.
 

Job

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Cause its bendable? Why do i care if it bends. I want it to take notes and draw stuffs and such not bend particularly.
Have you actually watched the clip in the article.
 

Raven

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I was watching the local news last night, 2 news reports. One was some down and out, sat on his couch in his free house moaning that he used to be a self employed truck driver, made loads of money from it until he "got conned" and went out of business, someone else's fault obviously, made loads, saved nothing. Can't find a job apparently, none to be had. Wants to work, allegedly.

The very next news report was about the struggle to find employees, which is a natural side effect of massive levels of employment. The company they selected was a haulage company, absolutely desperate for lorry drivers.

They were both in the same town.

I don't understand lazy people.
 

Gwadien

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So she gets sacked for saying all white people are racist.

Now another firm has taken her on and quietly dropped the racist bit and she know represents 'speaking her mind.'

Model fired by L'Oreal for racism remarks will be face of rival campaign

Oh and what she said is actuallt racist...so..c"mon.

“Most of ya’ll don’t even realise or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of colour. Your entire existence is drenched in racism.”

Factually correct.

America was built on slavery, if it wasn't for slavery they wouldn't be as wealthy as they are. Even the founding fathers of America were very aware that not freeing slaves was controversial, however, the economic benefits were too overwhelming.

Same deal for Britain in India after we decided slavery was a bad idea, so we encouraged the caste system in India to create a new version of slavery so that we profited on the back of it.

I know you're trying to make a point that non-white people can be racist, but this is an extremely poor example of it.

The hypocrisy in your argument is that you would argue that the vast majority of clearly racist things to non-white people aren't actually racist, however you try and look under every fucking pebble to find examples of white people being the poor victims.
 

Raven

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Isn't she half cast anyway? Random bullshit said to gain media traction...works
 

Gwadien

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Actually, the article doesn't actually say that she's being racist, that appears to be Jobs interpretation.

She's actually bringing awareness to racism.

I completely agree with her; silly southern American racists going on about how they don't want non-white people around because it will diminish their quality of life when it was non-white people that built their country.
 

Job

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As I pointed out they have left out her racist outburst against white people, because she biracial and trans, she ticks all the boxes and her racism is pit quietly to bed.
 

Job

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“Most of ya’ll don’t even realise or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of colour. Your entire existence is drenched in racism.”

Factually correct.

America was built on slavery, if it wasn't for slavery they wouldn't be as wealthy as they are. Even the founding fathers of America were very aware that not freeing slaves was controversial, however, the economic benefits were too overwhelming.

Same deal for Britain in India after we decided slavery was a bad idea, so we encouraged the caste system in India to create a new version of slavery so that we profited on the back of it.

I know you're trying to make a point that non-white people can be racist, but this is an extremely poor example of it.

The hypocrisy in your argument is that you would argue that the vast majority of clearly racist things to non-white people aren't actually racist, however you try and look under every fucking pebble to find examples of white people being the poor victims.
I didnt say they were the poor victims..she said quite clearly that ALL white people were racist...which is by the very definition...racist.
 

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“Most of ya’ll don’t even realise or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of colour. Your entire existence is drenched in racism.”

Factually correct.

America was built on slavery, if it wasn't for slavery they wouldn't be as wealthy as they are. Even the founding fathers of America were very aware that not freeing slaves was controversial, however, the economic benefits were too overwhelming.

Same deal for Britain in India after we decided slavery was a bad idea, so we encouraged the caste system in India to create a new version of slavery so that we profited on the back of it.

I know you're trying to make a point that non-white people can be racist, but this is an extremely poor example of it.

The hypocrisy in your argument is that you would argue that the vast majority of clearly racist things to non-white people aren't actually racist, however you try and look under every fucking pebble to find examples of white people being the poor victims.
She sees herself as white anyway...so
 

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Well it went to mixed race and now its biracial.
Which is hilarious because race isnt a real thing and if you decide it is , then black people are negroes and this is still valid.

Scientific racism - Wikipedia

After the 2nd world war Unrsco denounced race and said it should be discredited as a theory.
It still exists today and you can be prosecuted for inciting racial hatred..even though it doesnt exist.
 

Gwadien

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As I said, the Guard left that bit out.


metro.co.uk/2017/09/04/transgender-model-who-said-all-whites-are-racists-gets-into-blazing-row-over-comments-6901449/amp/


But hang on, you've previously said everyone is racist, so why does this matter?
 

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Well it went to mixed race and now its biracial.
Which is hilarious because race isnt a real thing and if you decide it is , then black people are negroes and this is still valid.

Scientific racism - Wikipedia

After the 2nd world war Unrsco denounced race and said it should be discredited as a theory.
It still exists today and you can be prosecuted for inciting racial hatred..even though it doesnt exist.

"Racially diverse"

tyvm
 

Job

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But hang on, you've previously said everyone is racist, so why does this matter?
Well yeah, I cant say shes wrong, shes clever and articulate and it was an emotional outburst against white supremacists...but thats no excuse, 1 strike and your out with the R word.
Oh unless your slightly brown and trans..then they call you a challenger who speaks their mind.
 

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“Most of ya’ll don’t even realise or refuse to acknowledge that your existence, privilege and success as a race is built on the backs, blood and death of people of colour. Your entire existence is drenched in racism.”

Factually correct.

America was built on slavery, if it wasn't for slavery they wouldn't be as wealthy as they are. Even the founding fathers of America were very aware that not freeing slaves was controversial, however, the economic benefits were too overwhelming.

Same deal for Britain in India after we decided slavery was a bad idea, so we encouraged the caste system in India to create a new version of slavery so that we profited on the back of it.

I know you're trying to make a point that non-white people can be racist, but this is an extremely poor example of it.

The hypocrisy in your argument is that you would argue that the vast majority of clearly racist things to non-white people aren't actually racist, however you try and look under every fucking pebble to find examples of white people being the poor victims.

Actually this is not true. American wealth was not built on slavery, the wealth of several of the southern states was built on slavery but the economic output of the non-slave states absolutely dwarfed the slave states, which is why they won the civil war. Slave driven industry as a percentage of US GDP in 1860 was single digit. If anything, there's more of an argument that Britain's success is directly off the back of slavery because it was the money from Caribbean sugar plantations that directly funded both the Navy and the Industrial Revolution, the difference was Britain found it easier to dump slavery because as a country we'd diversified (into industry and broader trade, including the narcotics business), whereas in the US, individual states hadn't diversified (and slightly ironically their slave economies, which had been dying out, were given a boost by the invention of the cotton Gin, and British, not American, demand for cotton) and because of the way the US is set up the problems of individual states led to the civil war.

I'd take issue with the line about Britain's encouragement of the caste system; Hindus are very quick to blame everything on the British, even their own culture. The fact is the British relied on the Brahmins and the Brahmins enriched themselves by reinforcing the already extant caste system which the Mughals had, not so much supressed as much as introduced alternative versions of servitude. Indians have been doing a fuckton of revisionist history over the last 20 years; if they can pin something on the Brits rather than taking responsibility for their own shit, they will. Britain could never have run India for 250 years without the active help of a significant Indian elite.
 

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