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It wouldn't flow to earth because there would be no guarantee of there being a route. There will be breakers all over the place.
 

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It means the circuitry is allowing 10 amps to flow...they might have circuit breakers to prevent electrocution or flow to earth.
If you were to contact that wire it has the power rating to deliver 400volts...10 amps.
I presume though Tesla must have impact circuit breakers all over the place or the cars would be going up like small bombs in crashes.

Power rating does not deliver anything. Power is simply a measure of energy transferred. If you grounded yourself on such a circuit then 10 amps would not flow through your body and you would not die.

Admit it, you don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about. You do not understand the relationship between potential, resistance, flow of current and power. If you did, you wouldn't spout such bollocks.
 

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Excellent, you are so correct, how about you stick your fingers in the 250v 13 amps plug socket in your house and feel the lack of power.

You keep straying into different wording of the situation, presumably a Tesla works on common ground like a normal car, if the wire is 400V and the other end is connected to the car, then grounding on the CAR would electrocute you, not withstanding and circuit breakers that may kick in.

Are you saying in front of all here that touching a 400V 10 amp, wire in such a way as the current can flow through you back to the power source that you wouldn't be electrocuted and quite possibly killed, if you're going to squirm out of it with superdry hands or there id no circuit completion for whatever reason.. feel free.
 

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Whether you are dry or not doesn't make a great deal of difference when playing with high amps, considering the fact that a human is 60-70% water.
 

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Excellent, you are so correct, how about you stick your fingers in the 250v 13 amps plug socket in your house and feel the lack of power.

UK mains is 230VAC. And yet again you fail to understand that the socket does not "have" 13 amps there. Current flow is determined by several factors, none of which you understand.

You keep straying into different wording of the situation

No, I don't. I understand how current flows through a circuit. You don't, which is why you keep posting nonsense statements like those I've quoted. Stick to pipes and water, it's obviously easier for you.

presumably a Tesla works on common ground like a normal car, if the wire is 400V and the other end is connected to the car, then grounding on the CAR would electrocute you, not withstanding and circuit breakers that may kick in.

To electrocute means to kill, but without knowing what the resistance of the human body is in that situation you cannot state that a person would be electrocuted. Many people have come into contact with 230VAC, which has a peak voltage significantly higher than the RMS value commonly quoted, and lived. I've done it several times in my life. I did not die.

Are you saying in front of all here that touching a 400V 10 amp, wire in such a way as the current can flow through you back to the power source that you wouldn't be electrocuted and quite possibly killed, if you're going to squirm out of it with superdry hands or there id no circuit completion for whatever reason.. feel free.

Yes, because you keep talking about 10 amps, which is fucking bonkers. You do not know how much current might flow in that situation. And it wouldn't flow "back to the power source", it'd flow to ground.

You'll never admit you don't know what you're talking about so I'll end it here by saying you're a silly ignorant racist cunt.
 

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Some one get a sparky in. Or stop arguing about what you are both unqualified to argue about lol
 

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He is talking utter pseudo intellectual boloks.
Basically hes saying you cant get electrocuted till you do.

You only need milliamps across the heart to stop it.
The bodies resistance means you need at least 200v to get that.
Thats why US sockets are 110v..it makes it much less likely, 250V will do it, but if your power source cant supply the current it wont happen.
Thats why 50K volt tasers dont kill you..not enough current.
Also a 12v car battery has a good 300 amps, but the volts are nowhere near enough to overcome the bodies resistance.
He just shit talking and arguing with stuff Ive allready pointed out..bullet pointing it like some schoolboy lawyer.
 

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I lied.

He is talking utter pseudo intellectual boloks.

Intellectualism has nothing to do with physics.

You only need milliamps across the heart to stop it.

Current travels through materials, not across them. What goes across them, you ask? Potential difference.

The bodies resistance means you need at least 200v to get that.

200VDC? 200VAC RMS? 200VAC peak? Which is it?

Thats why US sockets are 110v..

120V. Just like your views on race and other things, you're 50 years out of date. And US mains into properties is 240V, not 120V.

Thats why 50K volt tasers dont kill you..not enough current.

What an uninformed knob you are.

Taser safety issues - Wikipedia

Also a 12v car battery has a good 300 amps

Utter nonsense. Again a brilliant demonstration of fucktardiness.

bullet pointing it like some schoolboy lawyer.

More like someone who doesn't like it when people who have absolutely no idea whatsoever of what they're talking about write dangerous bollocks about things that can kill if not taken seriously.
 

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V=IR. That's all I've got. I'm scared of electrickery. And plumbing :(
 

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About time. They should have their bikes taken away and crushed in front of them if they jump a red light.
 

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I lied.



Intellectualism has nothing to do with physics.



Current travels through materials, not across them. What goes across them, you ask? Potential difference.



200VDC? 200VAC RMS? 200VAC peak? Which is it?



120V. Just like your views on race and other things, you're 50 years out of date. And US mains into properties is 240V, not 120V.



What an uninformed knob you are.

Taser safety issues - Wikipedia



Utter nonsense. Again a brilliant demonstration of fucktardiness.



More like someone who doesn't like it when people who have absolutely no idea whatsoever of what they're talking about write dangerous bollocks about things that can kill if not taken seriously.
What the living fuck was that...that read like the class nerd throwing a wobbler and saying..have you allowed for the celestial pole motion of the Earth...I thought not.
A car battery good for 300 amps...yes..full load...wont last long, a starter motor will pull 300 amps on click then go to 70 amps turning the engine over...apparently in your world that is boloks or have I quite clesrly not allowed for ambient temperature, wether its diesel or petrol andcthetefore am a clueless moron.

US mains electricity IS 120vac at the plug socket...so whatever.
 

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A car battery can go up to 1000amps at ignition. Fairly low amp hours though.
 

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To electrocute means to kill, but without knowing what the resistance of the human body is in that situation you cannot state that a person would be electrocuted.

They have actually collected a lot of data on this and can make pretty good predictions. Most of the data came from US when they still electrocuted for the death penalty. they can make very good analysis based on height, build and BMI etc. One of the Engineering Lecturers I had back in the late 80's actually worked on the study in New York for years before retiring into academia. He used to talk about it a lot, quite fascinating.

As for the actual argument, your right.
 

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You all seem to be forgetting back emf, impedance, phase overlap,age, gender, race, state of anxiety, ambient temperature, humidity.. these are all factors and if you don't allow for every single one in your statements you are a fucking clueless, dangerous moron!!!!
 

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And an employment drive, specifically aimed at employing men.

Jebus, 29% of the women there don't even bother turning up for a full week
 

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Just saw an odd couple. She looked like Emilia Clark, blonde, slim, petite, cute, VERY pretty. He was very fat, average height with a ginger beard eating a king size Snickers.

There's hope for us all.
 

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