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[Job]

Well someone agrees with me...almost to the letter.
Education revolution: 'AI machines will replace teachers', claims academic

 

[Raven]

No they don't. The key word here being "teachers" one would presume that would also mean students.

I honestly can't be arsed to read anything produced by Murdoch, so working with the headline here.

 

[DaGaffer]

What. The. Fuck? This is an actual commercial.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=j4IFNKYmLa8

 

[Raven]

1.30 that nobody will ever watch, somehow seems a waste of an imagination.

 

[Scouse]

Lol

Wouldn't make me buy it, but loving the 2001-ness.

 

[Raven]

UN sees 'ethnic cleansing' in Myanmar - BBC News

Thank fuck Aung San Suu Kyi got the peace prize, eh?

 

[CorNokZ]

I heard she was riding the 'fake news' wave

 

[Raven]

Isn't this just common sense?

Cycle groups warn over 'car-dooring'

Do people not check the mirror before getting out of a vehicle? (regardless of which side of the car they are in.

 

[fettoken]

I would call to action over 'cycle-ling'.

 

[Scouse]

Isn't this just common sense?

Cycle groups warn over 'car-dooring'

Do people not check the mirror before getting out of a vehicle? (regardless of which side of the car they are in.

Nope. I ride out from car doors to avoid this very common occurance and get abused by drivers for being too far out/blocking (especially in "traffic calmed" areas).

My missus gets scared because of the abuse so rides too close - so got hit by a door.

I told her to ride on the pavement but it's dangerous because of people reversing out of their driveways quickly, and of course the abuse from pedestrians (as a woman, if she's on her own the abuse is far worse - she's been spat at more than once when by herself).

But the big story is that single ped that got killed by a bike, ofc.

 

[Moriath]

Its not allowed to ride bikes on pavement with pedestrians unless its specifically says its made for it. Like noobs that ride their bikes through shopping precincts.

 

[Scouse]

Its not allowed to ride bikes on pavement with pedestrians unless its specifically says its made for it. Like noobs that ride their bikes through shopping precincts.

Who gives a fuck when the alternative is getting buzzed by cars and have doors opened into you (at best)?

Choose pavement - if you hit a pedestrian chances are nothing will happen. You get hit by a car or knocked into the road that's serious - and the accident and death stats show that very clearly.

Until we have a proper cycling infrastructure it's a total no-brainer, regardless of what 'the rules' say.

 

[Raven]

If someone ran into me or my wife on a bike they would soon be knocked into the road.

But that's not really the point. Do people actually open doors with windows, without looking out of them first?

 

[Scouse]

If someone ran into me or my wife on a bike they would soon be knocked into the road.

Meh, risk of a fight with a human < risk of death by car / idiot.

Like I said. No brainer.

But that's not really the point. Do people actually open doors with windows, without looking out of them first?

All the time. And in some cases (because of the anti-cyclist hate in the UK) deliberately.

Had to put up with the lulz of a bunch of twatty chav teenagers who thought it was really funny that I had to swerve round a deliberately opened door and nearly came off because of the avoidance action. If a car had been coming the other way (or from behind) I'd have been a goner. Not that they'd have checked for that before making their "lol lets scare the cyclist" joke.

It's fucking horrid out there on UK roads. That means I A) mountain bike and B) often ride on pavements rather than roads. If that means there's a small chance that I'll hit a pedestrian that's absolutely fine by me. I'll weather their indignant rage because at the end of the day the worst that'll happen is that they'll be fine but some cunt might take a swing at me...

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Moriath]

Who gives a fuck when the alternative is getting buzzed by cars and have doors opened into you (at best)?

Choose pavement - if you hit a pedestrian chances are nothing will happen. You get hit by a car or knocked into the road that's serious - and the accident and death stats show that very clearly.

Until we have a proper cycling infrastructure it's a total no-brainer, regardless of what 'the rules' say.

Cycling at 10plus mph and hitting a ped is just not on. If you want to cycle do it where its legal or i hope you get stopped.

 

[Scouse]

Cycling at 10plus mph and hitting a ped is just not on. If you want to cycle do it where its legal or i hope you get stopped.

Zero fucks given Moriath. Like I said - the accident stats totally vindicate my point of view.

Until we have a proper cycling infrastructure in the UK I'll take the safest method possible - whether that's road or not. There's no way I'll voluntarily take risks with my life over an effectively zero risk alternative.

 

[Raven]

Its fine round here. Aside from the road through the village I can get to work, or town by bike and never have to ride on the road or pedestrian footpath. Gets a bit dicey in town itself but they are looking at that and nobody actually visits it any more anyway.

Move somewhere not grim and North

 

[Tom]

A good 30 people are killed annually, while walking on the pavement, by motorists. But let's focus on those lethal dangerous cyclists eh. The ones who are involved in less than one pedestrian death per year.

Oh, and...




Let's not pretend that millions of cars aren't abandoned on pavements across the country, except in London, where it's illegal to park on the pavement (it's illegal to drive along the pavement too, so all those cars must be transported there by Mr Scott).

 

[Raven]

Thats fascinating. But not really the point. I am more surprised people don't look before opening a car door. I am pretty sure they wouldn't just step out into the road.

I mean, who wants to actually get hit by something metal travelling quite fast that weighs a fair amount (With cyclist included) out of choice?

 

[CorNokZ]

Couldn't imagine walking or using public transportation like a peasant, let alone driving a car around a big city fucking up the co2 levels and not being able to find a spot to park my overpriced egocentric ride. Bike any day over any other means of transportation.

"how about moving out of the city and you won't have to worry about all that?"

Not living in the city is the definition of being a peasant, so no thanks

 

[Raven]

I live in the country and drive perhaps 20 miles a week.

I don't have to live on top of people either

Well, countryish, it used to be close enough to town to be convenient but I don't bother visiting the town (or any town) any more, there doesn't seem to be a lot of point to them except another type of housing estate. But country enough to not stink of other peoples waste and traffic.

 

[CorNokZ]

I live in the centre of Copenhagen and bike 2km to and from work every day. Takes me ten minutes in a very slow and relaxed pace.

And I don't live on top of anyone. I live on the bottom floor

 

[DaGaffer]

Thats fascinating. But not really the point. I am more surprised people don't look before opening a car door. I am pretty sure they wouldn't just step out into the road.

I mean, who wants to actually get hit by something metal travelling quite fast that weighs a fair amount (With cyclist included) out of choice?

Statistically people "just step out into the road" all the time as well. Lot of people and a shared roadspace, not even slightly surprising.

 

[Tom]

Thats fascinating. But not really the point. I am more surprised people don't look before opening a car door. I am pretty sure they wouldn't just step out into the road.

I mean, who wants to actually get hit by something metal travelling quite fast that weighs a fair amount (With cyclist included) out of choice?

They do, all the time. It's called the door zone. I've experienced it a few times but I know not to ride anywhere near parked cars so I've never been affected. A hell of a lot of cyclists aren't so experienced.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcTGhlstgQM


Note what happens - the cyclist is thrown sideways, under the following vehicle. I've had pedestrians walk out in front of me - they use their ears, can't hear a vehicle coming, and assume the road is clear. The look of shock on their faces is always the same.

Modern cycle lane designs now suggest placing the cycle lane between the pavement and the row of parked cars, with a small kerb and perhaps plastic deformable bollards. That way, the parked cars protect the cyclist, instead of the old way, where the cyclist protects the parked cars. Sadly, there's nothing in law to enforce such designs, so the usual bullshit like this keeps getting rolled out:

Google Maps

People can talk about Dutch Reach and door zones all they like, but the best way to eliminate these collisions is with good road design, not safety campaigns.

 

[Scouse]

They do, all the time. It's called the door zone.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcTGhlstgQM


Note what happens - the cyclist is thrown sideways, under the following vehicle.

And this is just one of many reasons I often ride on pavements, and try to avoid roads altogether.

No-brainer.

 

[Ormorof]

Well someone agrees with me...almost to the letter.
Education revolution: 'AI machines will replace teachers', claims academic

If implemented right it can mean individually tailored instruction to get the most out of every student, this is something the richest have had access to for centuries via tutors

Dont see it as a bad thing at all, someone still has to set up, maintain and handle the AIs, and be able to step in if they break down

Just means teachers will need to be at least somewhat competent computer scientists as well as able to teach their chosen subject

 

[Raven]

@Job's theory is that people will not bother learning anything and just look it up on some babel fish type, all knowing thing.

As you can tell, its working out great for him.

Funnily enough, that will likely be the case for languages so will essentially be a babel fish. But not facts or skills.

 

[Tom]

This is what Job thinks will happen:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x57fIk9zlLM


Except whereas Karl Pilkington is a funny, interesting person, Job isn't.

 

[Job]

Chris Boardman bas said after his mother being killed on the roads he doesn't cycle on them anymore and excusively off road MBs for fun.
Right behind him on that one...its so boring riding on the road..holdi g up traffic..constant noise of vehicles going past..fumes, also thete speed makes it feel like you are going really slow (well where I live and cars actually can move at the speed limit).
Off road is lovely tracks tbrough the trees, tranquil..danger and smog free....its a no brainer.