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Moriath

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Pakis are from Pakistan not Afghanistan. UK forces are withdrawing but have not yet left the country so they need to replace those still there that are at the end of their tours.

@Gwadien you are a twat who knows very little and reads the daily mail.
 

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I care because she's being put into a stupid war zone especially when we shouldn't be there and we're meant to be withdrawing.
I think we are but the sheer logistics involved means there will be more support boots on the ground leading up to no boots on the ground.
 

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/video-mum-who-spent-9000-3380484

This is funny but i know a contractor who has been earning over £2k a month from a local council for 5 years now for a 60 day contract. The guy that hired him left and now he still gets paid. He has left all the money in a different account and sent numerous recorded letters asking them to stop and he still gets paid. He has asked for legal advice about when he gets to keep the money.
 

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Well, I hope they weren't proposing you put a Biryani in a clay oven, would turn out kind of shit.

13 spices is fine...probably a bit excessive but depends on the recipe, I have 20-30 in my cupboard.

You can buy pretty good Tandoors online

Actually cooking in clay, as in wrapping the meat in mud is kind of odd, I did do it once when camping and it was quite nice but not massively different from wrapping in tin foil.
You use a clay pot to cook the rice and seal the lid to the pot with pastry. It's not wrapping it in clay, it's just earthenware.
 

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I think we are but the sheer logistics involved means there will be more support boots on the ground leading up to no boots on the ground.
Suppose so, but I thought there was whole units for that
 

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Pakis are from Pakistan not Afghanistan. UK forces are withdrawing but have not yet left the country so they need to replace those still there that are at the end of their tours.

@Gwadien you are a twat who knows very little and reads the daily mail.
Haha really?

I was describing the mentality of potential recruits, I've spoken to loads of serving soldiers at home, at uni and a couple on holiday, and they're pretty racist :)

I love it when people read a post for face value, and then call people stupid :3
 

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Robots from the future.

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Haha really?

I was describing the mentality of potential recruits, I've spoken to loads of serving soldiers at home, at uni and a couple on holiday, and they're pretty racist :)

I love it when people read a post for face value, and then call people stupid :3
Responding to myself, I know...

I wonder if being racist/xenophobic is a good tick box when you're joining the army, thinking about it, a few people who joined from school were racist, but clearly I didn't know people from uni/holiday before they joined, so were they racist before or does fighting them turn them racist? Hmm
 

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Generally racist towards all non-whites, or just towards the enemy that has been trying to put a metal enema into them?
 

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Responding to myself, I know...

I wonder if being racist/xenophobic is a good tick box when you're joining the army, thinking about it, a few people who joined from school were racist, but clearly I didn't know people from uni/holiday before they joined, so were they racist before or does fighting them turn them racist? Hmm
No it's not. You get kicked out of the army and or do not get in if you are overtly racist. The sad fact is you do get overly aggressive idiots in there but you also get people who have no other options and don't believe in living on the dole. You also have those who see it as a cheap education.

If being a racist was the norm then every village our soldiers walked past out there would be a smoldering heap and we would have won the war via the genocide method. But racial murders and even "collateral damage" are the exception when it comes to foot soldiers.
 

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I don't think Gwad gas actually met any soldiers. Seems to just be going on stereotypes.
 

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Not to mention; "The British Armed Forces is a professional force with a strength in October 2013 of 205,850 Service Personnel. In addition, there were 181,720 Regular Reserves from all services of the British Armed Forces."

Just how big of a percentage fraction has Gwad met to make such a sweeping statement? ;)
 

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The army and the politicians behind it are fundamentaly racist...individual soldiers racism is irrelevant...so some squaddie might abuse a local because he thinks hes a dirty arab or whatever...hes not arranging the freakin war in the first place against innocent civilians.
 

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I do not think racism is the right word at all. Like it or not a Soldier shoots who he is told too. A contentious objector would not join an army. Be it because they had no choice or because they are agro idiots they signed on to serve and now they are. And again like it or not if we went to war with the French they would shoot and kill the French it has fuck all to do with race color or creed. Politicians start wars based on politics nothing else and the soldiers just do the fighting.
 

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I do not think racism is the right word at all. Like it or not a Soldier shoots who he is told too. A contentious objector would not join an army. Be it because they had no choice or because they are agro idiots they signed on to serve and now they are. And again like it or not if we went to war with the French they would shoot and kill the French it has fuck all to do with race color or creed. Politicians start wars based on politics nothing else and the soldiers just do the fighting.

But saying they get kicked out if found to be racist is a bit daft.

Anyone would get sacked if they were 'racist' but you're never racist in the public sphere, but when you actually talk to people, they are..

I came from quite a notoriously bad school in Leicester, where a lot of kids were racist (Where whites are a minority) and there was a distinct lack of non-whites whereas every other nearby school was 90%+ non-white.

I respect what people are saying about me knowing a small amount of people means I can't place that example on the masses, but I know from the few I have spoken to that one of the bonuses of going to war is that you can go and kill the 'terrorists'
 

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I think we can all pretty much agree War is pointless for the most part. They serve one purpose deep down: Profit. Shifting the blame of War to soldiers is pretty sad, especially when they have no choice.. do you think its as easy as just not signing up? if no one signed up to an army you'd be forcefully drafted and if you declined with no valid reason you'd be jailed or shot in some countries.

It's not as simple as just going "No" and saying that a majority of soldiers are just thick racists however is just sad and clearly uninformed. Yes, there are racists, the same argument can be made about any profession on the planet, doctors, police, even clowns (yes go-go the fucking clown is a closet racist). If you genuinely think that recruiters go around picking out thick people and basically tell them they can blow up brown people if they join the army then you are one thick individual Gwadien.
 

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The fun thing with these kind of discussions comes when at some point you throw the "well what about nazi soldiers?" into the mix and watch a few change their tune :p
 

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But saying they get kicked out if found to be racist is a bit daft.

Anyone would get sacked if they were 'racist' but you're never racist in the public sphere, but when you actually talk to people, they are..

I came from quite a notoriously bad school in Leicester, where a lot of kids were racist (Where whites are a minority) and there was a distinct lack of non-whites whereas every other nearby school was 90%+ non-white.

I respect what people are saying about me knowing a small amount of people means I can't place that example on the masses, but I know from the few I have spoken to that one of the bonuses of going to war is that you can go and kill the 'terrorists'
To get in the army you have to pass a physiological test. If you say the reason you want to get in is because you want to kill foreigners then you don't get in. If you hide that you get in, but if you are found out you get the boot. You are on a witch hunt but you are just wrong. It is not a racist institution yes there are exceptions but they are few and far between.
 

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Haha really?

I was describing the mentality of potential recruits, I've spoken to loads of serving soldiers at home, at uni and a couple on holiday, and they're pretty racist :)

I love it when people read a post for face value, and then call people stupid :3
But it really was a stupid thing to say, even in the context you meant it.
 

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I think youll find less educated working class people who make up the bulk of squaddies will have a more simplistic view towards their inherent xenophobia than more
'educated' people...but in my view than education merely gives you the skills to hide your distrust of other cultures behind a facade of superior attitude...which to me is a pile of bolaks which shows itself again and again in the actual actions and not the
carefully crafted talk.
 

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Just watched Noah on a cam..not bad copy...but what the living fuk was that...Ive mever seen such disjointed bolaks it was like one half was transformers and the other half some french art film about relationships.
 

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I think youll find less educated working class people who make up the bulk of squaddies will have a more simplistic view towards their inherent xenophobia than more
'educated' people...but in my view than education merely gives you the skills to hide your distrust of other cultures behind a facade of superior attitude...which to me is a pile of bolaks which shows itself again and again in the actual actions and not the
carefully crafted talk.
It is only though ignoring your primal instincts in favor of logic that society can exist. If everyone just did what they wanted then if someone fancied your daughter he just kills you and takes her. You cant pick and choose the rules you want to live by if you then expect the rules to protect you.
 

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