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[Job]

I see more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died fighting.

 

[Chilly]

I see more soldiers killed themselves in 2012 than died fighting.

I wonder if the suicide rate for soldiers is higher or lower than the average rate in the wider population. At a guess I'd say lower, because they're generally a bunch of hard men, not emo bitches.

 

[caLLous]

I would guess higher because they have to deal with death on a regular basis (being the cause of it and losing comrades/friends etc) and it must be a much more stressful existence overall. And you can't just go "home" after a day's work, you're pretty much constantly in a military environment.

 

[Cadelin]

I wonder if the suicide rate for soldiers is higher or lower than the average rate in the wider population. At a guess I'd say lower, because they're generally a bunch of hard men, not emo bitches.

It depends, are you comparing it to the a population who have easy access to lethal weapons (eg America) or are you comparing it to the non armed UK population?

Whie I don't have numbers to hand I am pretty sure it will be higher in general with soldiers. Attempting suicide is a serious mental health problem not some emo fad.

 

[Chilly]

It depends, are you comparing it to the a population who have easy access to lethal weapons (eg America) or are you comparing it to the non armed UK population?

Whie I don't have numbers to hand I am pretty sure it will be higher in general with soldiers. Attempting suicide is a serious mental health problem not some emo fad.

We're talking about UK soldiers so I'm comparing it to the UK pop.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I wonder if the suicide rate for soldiers is higher or lower than the average rate in the wider population. At a guess I'd say lower, because they're generally a bunch of hard men, not emo bitches.

100% quitters in any case.

 

[Urgat]

100% quitters in any case.

Clarify please... Who, exactly, are "a bunch of quitters" ?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Suiciders, 0 respect for it.

 

[megadave]

George Zimmerman not guilty of Trayvon Martin murder

That's not going to go down well.

wow thats crazy, how can you claim self-defense when you initiate a confrontation?

 

[Chilly]

wow thats crazy, how can you claim self-defense when you initiate a confrontation?

USA, baby. the same place that banned tampons from a courtroom but allowed people with concealed carry permits to take their guns in on security grounds.

 

[BloodOmen]

George Zimmerman case explanation for Aussies

NSFW (also contains some racism)

Spoiler

NSFW (also contains some racism)

 

[Chilly]

I wonder if the suicide rate for soldiers is higher or lower than the average rate in the wider population. At a guess I'd say lower, because they're generally a bunch of hard men, not emo bitches.

Was right: soldiers are hard core:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23259865
"The MoD said that rates of suicide and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) within the serving military were lower than comparative rates in the civilian population."

 

[BloodOmen]

Was right: soldiers are hard core:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23259865
"The MoD said that rates of suicide and post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) within the serving military were lower than comparative rates in the civilian population."

Not surprising really the amount atrocity soldiers witness, must really do a number on their mental health.

 

[Chilly]

Not surprising really the amount atrocity soldiers witness, must really do a number on their mental health.

Er, read it again. Soldiers are MORE healthy mentally, on average, than the general population.

 

[BloodOmen]

Er, read it again. Soldiers are MORE healthy mentally, on average, than the general population.

Ohhh, forgive me >< death heat atm so not really all there... quite surprised at that actually, expected them to be worse off than the general pop.

 

[Edmond]

 

[caLLous]

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I see your kitten and dog gif and raise you:

 

[Cadelin]

Er, read it again. Soldiers are MORE healthy mentally, on average, than the general population.

No, it doesn't say that at all. It says the rates are lower.

The suicide rate of people on suicide watch in prison/hospital is probably quite low but that's because somebody is checking on them every 15 minutes and they may be forcibly restrained. That certainly doesn't mean we would say these people are healthy.

The article also clearly says the MOD does not record statistics on former soldiers and that for PTSD:
"It can take years to emerge but is treatable if caught early. Symptoms include flashbacks, severe anxiety and depression."
so that measuring it for serving soldiers will not give the complete picture. Also, is it not telling that as the mission in Afghanistan goes on longer the number of cases of PTSD are increasing.

We can't draw any conclusions from that article.

 

[old.Tohtori]

So it's like that eh?

 

[caLLous]

Gif made funnier by its title on reddit, which was:

Your garden is quite lovely. It would be a shame if something were to....happen to it

 

[megadave]

this whole thread is basically from reddit these days

 

[old.Tohtori]

 

[Billargh]

I feel I'm the only person on the internet who doesn't use Reddit.

 

[Job]

We only bring you the best bits

 

[DaGaffer]

No, it doesn't say that at all. It says the rates are lower.

The suicide rate of people on suicide watch in prison/hospital is probably quite low but that's because somebody is checking on them every 15 minutes and they may be forcibly restrained. That certainly doesn't mean we would say these people are healthy.

The article also clearly says the MOD does not record statistics on former soldiers and that for PTSD:
"It can take years to emerge but is treatable if caught early. Symptoms include flashbacks, severe anxiety and depression."
so that measuring it for serving soldiers will not give the complete picture. Also, is it not telling that as the mission in Afghanistan goes on longer the number of cases of PTSD are increasing.

We can't draw any conclusions from that article.

This. The key word is serving personnel. I'm pretty sure the number of ex-squaddies with mental health issues probably ticks well above other groups.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I feel I'm the only person on the internet who doesn't use Reddit.

Never touch it myself.

 

[ileks]

Anyone ever used a portable air conditioner? If so are they actually any good? Would be for a medium sized room.

 

[Job]

Lol..only from the mouth of a black guy
possibly rascist but obviously not



View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL2f0PoqME

 

[rynnor]

Anyone ever used a portable air conditioner? If so are they actually any good? Would be for a medium sized room.

I have one - not very portable at 40kg but effective in an enclosed room.

Very noisy though and you need to vent the hot air either through an open window or you cut a hole in the wall...

 

[Ch3tan]

I feel I'm the only person on the internet who doesn't use Reddit.

nope, me to.