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[Jupitus]

I thought it was no linking?

Nobody actually uses Piratebay anymore, do they?

I am sure nobody has heard of pirate proxy twitter, too!

 

[Gwadien]

Remember the good ol' days where there was no Yarr chat allowed?

We should encourage the Yarr chat, especially amongst the younglings, the pressure from torrenting made TV affordable, let's do it again!

 

[SilverHood]

Piratebay.

Subscribe for stuff you've already seen and likely paid for? Twice?

Well, I use Amazon for a lot of deliveries, Amazon Prime is just a bonus. If I get my deliveries on a Friday, instead of next day, I get digitial credit for my kindle, so it all works out nicely.

 

[DaGaffer]

I'm doing a serious clear out when I get home; Amazon is going as Prime delivery is crap in Ireland since Brexit. I'd bin Netflix too but I might have a fight on my hands with that one, and I'm seriously thinking of binning my Sky Q boxes and just getting some Now TV sticks. All these subs have snuck up on us and I'm not happy about it.

 

[Aoami]

I'd happily get rid of sky but my wife insists we have it as she wasn't allowed it growing up

 

[Raven]

I would get rid of the TV completely if I could.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Wij]

@Wij'll be pleased...

UK court approves extradition of Julian Assange to US

Home secretary to decide whether WikiLeaks founder will be extradited to US on espionage charges

www.theguardian.com

...will representations made to Priti Patel, who surely never wants to extradite people without due cause, work?

Ah.

I’d be even happier if he died of cock cancer before he got on the plane tbh.

 

[Tom]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKK7vS2CHC8

 

[Wij]

I’d be even happier if he died of cock cancer before he got on the plane tbh.

Small thread with just a fraction of Assange shithousery:


View: https://twitter.com/Guardian_Mario/status/1516796831681990657

 

[Scouse]

Don't give a fuck if true or not.

He exposed serious criminality in the US government. That is a good thing.

 

[Wij]

Don't give a fuck if true or not.

He exposed serious criminality in the US government. That is a good thing.

I don’t give a fuck if Jimmy Savile nonced kids. He raised a lot of money for charity.

 

[Embattle]

I'm doing a serious clear out when I get home; Amazon is going as Prime delivery is crap in Ireland since Brexit. I'd bin Netflix too but I might have a fight on my hands with that one, and I'm seriously thinking of binning my Sky Q boxes and just getting some Now TV sticks. All these subs have snuck up on us and I'm not happy about it.

Never really fell into the Sky trap, we just use Now for footy purposes. We've got Amazon Prime, Netflix and Disney but personally I pay for none of them.

 

[Scouse]

I don’t give a fuck if Jimmy Savile nonced kids. He raised a lot of money for charity.

Totally false argument. There's no equivalent there - neither in the "crimes" he supposedly committed nor the benefits gained. Terrible false analogy.

It's hugely important to expose wholesale criminal action by a nation state. I don't give a single fuck if Russia handed him the documents whilst Putin personally gave him a hand job and they both chanted "death to the west" together before publication.

It still exposed us for what we were doing and whatever he did was totally worth that.

 

[Embattle]

Credibility.

 

[Scouse]

Credibility.

Rubbish. We're guilty - that's not under dispute.

He could even actually be Jimmy Saviile (he's not) - and if Saville had exposed our war crimes then just because he was a dirty necro-paedo doesn't make us innocent - it means we're BOTH guilty of something.

Nothing Assange is accused of is remotely as serious as the hard evidence that was presented about the west's war crimes - crimes we covered up and our traditional media didn't expose - including massive civilian deaths, murders, extra-judicial killings by the state.

He's wanted for espionage - because he breached laws specifically written to make it illegal to expose our criminality. But since that criminality has been exposed nobody has gone to jail for our crimes.


He doesn't need to be a credible witness. The evidence says all it needs on it's own.

 

[Scouse]

By evidence @Embattle - I mean our documents.

If they're not our documents, then he's not guilty of stealing our documents and publishing them in the first place - he's guilty of making shit up, which isn't illegal.

 

[Gwadien]

I still find it a bit weird that people don't ponder at the whole releases documents on Goverments -> Suddenly becoming the most evil man in the world.

 

[Ormorof]

Absolutely, holding your government to account, great. But release all of it then

Claiming to be doing it to hold western government to account only to discover you withheld stuff that would also make a government actively trying to undermine western governments, and which may also have been funding and drip feeding stuff to you makes you look more like a useful mouthpiece.

If the docs had come form Russia Today most of the world wouldn't have even bothered looking at them true or not. Credibility is important

 

[Scouse]

Nope.

Evidence of crime is important. It doesn't matter if he's been selective "in an attempt to undermine our government" - that's such a wrong-headed way of looking at it.

If a bad actor leak documents showing government murder then the government has undermined itself.

 

[Ormorof]

If you read what I wrote I agree

The downside of how it played out is that wikileaks now is useless as an organisation for revealing this stuff, by fiddling the books they've shown they are happy to be influenced by governments if they pay enough (or whatever reason they have).
Wikileaks was bigger than just one person but now its not and new ways of leaking this stuff needs to be worked out. Thats shit for all of us as it means there will likely less leaks in the future

 

[Aoami]

Blah

 

[BloodOmen]

View: https://youtu.be/IwhCE_HL570

 

[Scouse]

Minister defends shelving right to roam report: ‘The countryside is a place of business’

Activists irate at Treasury decision and fear expansion of publicly accessible land will not go ahead

www.theguardian.com

 

[Wij]

If you read what I wrote I agree

The downside of how it played out is that wikileaks now is useless as an organisation for revealing this stuff, by fiddling the books they've shown they are happy to be influenced by governments if they pay enough (or whatever reason they have).
Wikileaks was bigger than just one person but now its not and new ways of leaking this stuff needs to be worked out. Thats shit for all of us as it means there will likely less leaks in the future

Wikileaks does have a credibility problem. It doesn’t post anything that would expose the crimes of Putin and other autocratic states but happily publishes stuff that helps them:


View: https://twitter.com/KareemRifai/status/1517200879212011523


Whereas with stuff critical of the west it not only publishes but is happy to do so selectively, out of context, and,if necessary, deceptively edited even into the realm of outright lies.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/KareemRifai/status/1517161517682241536

 

[Scouse]

I give zero shits @Wij. There's irrefutable proof of bad shit we've done that no amount of other bullshit will ever excuse.

It's like you want to let Jimmy Saville off because Garry Glitter didn't also tell the authorities about Rolf Harris.

 

[Wij]

I give zero shits @Wij. There's irrefutable proof

You have no reason to trust anything from Wikileaks given that they have been shown many times not to have posted the raw leaks but instead versions edited to suit their dictator-apologist agenda.

It's not journalism. It's propaganda.

 

[Embattle]

I give zero shits @Wij. There's irrefutable proof of bad shit we've done that no amount of other bullshit will ever excuse.

It's like you want to let Jimmy Saville off because Garry Glitter didn't also tell the authorities about Rolf Harris.

Whereas I give zero shits about Julian Assange and will be quite happy to see the back of him.

 

[Scouse]

Whereas I give zero shits about Julian Assange and will be quite happy to see the back of him.

Like @Wij - you give more shits about one asshat than state criminality.