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[Raven]

...so they want to make them free again...

 

[Aoami]

A decent government policy for once, who'd a thunk it

Bucks (amongst other councils) to get a grant to combat flytipping hotspots as well which is great. Much needed here.

 

[Scouse]

...so they want to make them free again...

Yep. But my point is - they used to be free for very good reasons (fly tipping being prime) and government started charging despite knowing this.

We knew the lesson, we knew the outcome, but we allowed charging anyway.

Now the Tories will be claiming "great news - free tips". And in 20 years we'll start charging again.

We're so dumb.

Edit: This is a continuation of a post I made 5 years ago complaining about fly tipping because tips were charging. I refuse to congratulate anyone on "good policy" when it's so obvious that we should never have been charging in the first place - and that they brought charging in over protests that pointed out that we already knew fly tipping would be the result.

 

[Aoami]

Surely it was local councils individual decisions to start charging? Did the government change policy to allow them to start charging at some point?

 

[Embattle]

Nothing is free, you just won't pay for it at the point of use.

It still won't stop the worst offenders either.

 

[Aoami]

Nothing is free, you just won't pay for it at the point of use.

It still won't stop the worst offenders either.

This is true, it was a good little money making scheme for councils that they'll have to make up elsewhere. I still agree with the policy change though. I'd happily pay an extra tenner a year on my council tax if it meant an end to fly tipping. It's awful round my way.

 

[Raven]

Nah, councils use bus lanes to make their cash.

Like this shit

Controversial 'cash cow' bus lane camera in Northampton to be switched off TONIGHT

The camera helped the council pocket more than £500,000 in fines since it went live in February

www.northamptonchron.co.uk

 

[Aoami]

Hah, they do the same in Slough I'm sure with some really confusing arrows. You can use the bus lane but it's left turn only so you have to merge right to go straight at the lights?

 

[Raven]

Yeah, it goes on for nearly 2 miles. I nearly got done in it before I clocked it, it was dark, and it's the other side of town. It's also near the Saints ground, so they caught out plenty of tourists.

 

[Wij]

Nah, councils use bus lanes to make their cash.

Like this shit

Controversial 'cash cow' bus lane camera in Northampton to be switched off TONIGHT

The camera helped the council pocket more than £500,000 in fines since it went live in February

www.northamptonchron.co.uk

Ooh yeh. They are fuckers for this in Bradford. Got caught for something that was completely not obvious. Cunts.

 

[Scouse]

Nottingham were real forerunners for this - they stopped the rollout of cameras sbout 15 years ago because, and I quote, "they're not the money spinners we thought they were".

Over time locals stopped getting caught but every single road where there is still an economic case has a camera.

Nowt to do with safety tho.

 

[Embattle]

Nah, councils use bus lanes to make their cash.

Like this shit

Controversial 'cash cow' bus lane camera in Northampton to be switched off TONIGHT

The camera helped the council pocket more than £500,000 in fines since it went live in February

www.northamptonchron.co.uk

Generally Councils use such money to fill voids elsewhere, but I have no real sympathy for people who get parking fines etc.

 

[Tom]

Temporary bus lanes are stupid - they should be permanent, 24/7. What's the rationale behind allowing people to drive in a bus lane outside peak hours? And why do so many bus lanes not continue through junctions? What's the point in a bus lane stopping 50 yards short of a junction, with traffic queuing across it, delaying the bus and its passengers? There should be priority, like this scheme:

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.

goo.gl

We're really bad at public tranport in this country. There's a decent amount of investment going into new walking/cycling infrastructure in GM, and some councils (like Salford) are doing a really good job. But others, like Manchester City Council, are really weak. For example, rather than widen this bridge, or build a new one alongside it for walking and cycling, they've simply coughed a little and avoided it completely. Google Maps

 

[Aoami]

The problem with them round by me is that there are never any busses in them. Whilst i agree with them in principle, and am very pro-public transport, there is no point to them if there are no busses, especially if they were made 24/7 bus lanes.

 

[Tom]

You can say the same thing about railway lines. Buses carry more people than cars and are more efficient forms of transport. And if the lane is kept free of other vehicles, it doesn't suffer congestion. Which is why it's empty. And the buses you never see - they're at their destination.

 

[Gwadien]

Bus lanes are taxi lanes around my ends.

 

[MYstIC G]

Temporary bus lanes are stupid - they should be permanent, 24/7. What's the rationale behind allowing people to drive in a bus lane outside peak hours? And why do so many bus lanes not continue through junctions? What's the point in a bus lane stopping 50 yards short of a junction, with traffic queuing across it, delaying the bus and its passengers? There should be priority, like this scheme:

Google Maps

Find local businesses, view maps and get driving directions in Google Maps.

goo.gl

We're really bad at public tranport in this country. There's a decent amount of investment going into new walking/cycling infrastructure in GM, and some councils (like Salford) are doing a really good job. But others, like Manchester City Council, are really weak. For example, rather than widen this bridge, or build a new one alongside it for walking and cycling, they've simply coughed a little and avoided it completely. Google Maps

so traffic is moved back across at junctions to make turns and avoid the possibility of vehicles turning across lanes that continue straight on

 

[Tom]

It is entirely possible to create modal filters that separate bus traffic from general traffic, as I've linked above. But for some reason, we take the cheaper, easier path, which is to not bother. Delaying public transport at junctions is a political decision.

 

[Raven]

Bollocks, there is never anyone on the buses anyway, they should all be smaller. They could then offer more of them so that they go where people actually want to go. Smaller, electric vehicles doing shorter routes. Eventually we can go full bitcoin and have then autonomous.

"Please hold while we connect your call"

 

[Ormorof]

They trialled autonomous small buses nearby as a way to move people closer to the bigger routes, problem was it didnt handle winter very well

Neat idea though a bit eerie to be in a bus with no driver on a public road

 

[Aoami]

You can say the same thing about railway lines. Buses carry more people than cars and are more efficient forms of transport. And if the lane is kept free of other vehicles, it doesn't suffer congestion. Which is why it's empty. And the buses you never see - they're at their destination.

Not true round here. They put in bus lanes on the A4 for buses that don't go down there anymore because no-one used them.

 

[Raven]

We don't have a single bus through our village, the nearest is about 1.5 miles away over, partly, rough country. Not much use to the elderly. They have to pay a vast amount of money to a private bus firm for their weekly trip to the absolute hellscape that is Northampton Town Centre. One of the most historic towns in the country, vying for City status, and it's full of boarded up card shops, low brow pubs, betting shops and poundlands. Fucking Tories.

 

[Raven]

Just had to report an ex-colleague to popo, he posted a video on youtube saying he had been robbed, then stuff like he has nothing to live for etc, today he posted 2 out of 6 and that would die by police etc. Some proper disturbing shit.

 

[Scouse]

Just had to report an ex-colleague to popo, he posted a video on youtube saying he had been robbed, then stuff like he has nothing to live for etc, today he posted 2 out of 6 and that would die by police etc. Some proper disturbing shit.

I don't follow?

He's been robbed, feels depressed? Ok - he's having a shit time. But what's this?:

"today he posted 2 out of 6 and that would die by police etc."

 

[DaGaffer]

We don't have a single bus through our village, the nearest is about 1.5 miles away over, partly, rough country. Not much use to the elderly. They have to pay a vast amount of money to a private bus firm for their weekly trip to the absolute hellscape that is Northampton Town Centre. One of the most historic towns in the country, vying for City status, and it's full of boarded up card shops, low brow pubs, betting shops and poundlands. Fucking Tories.

For once I don't think you can lay that entirely at the Tories' door. Its just capitalism and the Internet that's destroyed town centres. Its like the way shopping malls crashed and burned in the US.

The Tories haven't helped mind, because they're cunts obviously, but town centres need to reinvent themselves mostly. Ireland has a lot of thriving towns that have gone down the tourism route or the artisinal market town route, or both, because they were dying on their arse after the last crash and everyone was leaving.

 

[Tom]

Many town centres just aren't nice places to be. They're noisy, smelly, difficult to get around and don't really offer much at all.

There's a reason families take their kids to shopping malls these days, and not town centres. And it isn't because of the weather.

 

[Tom]

Bollocks, there is never anyone on the buses anyway

They're privately-owned businesses that exist to make a profit. Do you really believe they're just being driven around with no passengers? Of course there are people on them, you just don't know how many because you don't use them.

 

[Scouse]

The Tories haven't helped mind, because they're cunts obviously, but town centres need to reinvent themselves mostly. Ireland has a lot of thriving towns that have gone down the tourism route or the artisinal market town route, or both, because they were dying on their arse after the last crash and everyone was leaving.

Problem is - there's only so many town centres that can do that and the amount of real estate that was dedicated to shops is mahoosive - and the Tories are recipients of much of the rents, and don't want to repurpose it as residential (which they should, of course).

Solve the housing crisis. Fuck off all the shit shops and redevelop city centres as places to live - with amenites.

 

[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/web3isgreat/status/1514350099480006661

 

[Lamp]

Got some of these today

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