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old.Osy

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I'd like you to provide evidence for that beyond it being what you feel.

There is absolutely a scam and crime industry that's been built up around crypto and crypto is absolutely used in criminal activity - but A) it's not crypto itself and doesn't define it and B) working at a single bank that money laundered $3.2bn in drug money from Mexico, living in a system that is "scams and crime" all over the place - and, more importantly, systemically criminal - then crypto, even in it's current phase, still comes up smelling of roses.

Shit is being flung. But reality isn't the shit fling.


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Moriath

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Just look at music festivals for the 'hard' stuff - they test it for you etc, that's why the 'hard' stuff is dangerous because it's not regulated on what it is in it and how much won't kill you.
I agree. If you know the strength and purity and that its not cut with rat poison there would be more functional addicts. Like their are with alcohol. And the cost to society would be less
 

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I know conveyors ask for so much information about you but this is a bit presumptuous. I'm barely at 30%.
 

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You're conflating crime and regulation a little with that example @old.Osy. They're not the same things. So lets largely ignore the crime bit (done that to death anyway). I'm all for full implementation of KYC legislation (not just in the crypto space - but in actual banks too). KYC being "know your customer". Right now - we don't do KYC in trad. banking particularly well - but then trad. banking is opaque by design and facilitates money laundering because of it's opacity. Crypto movement is much more easily traceable. And sensible regulation in the crypto arena is to be welcomed.

There are absolutely some regulations that crypto is designed to avoid, however. And that's a good thing. We've had centuries of government failure to run banking systems fairly and for all. Private companies (banks) pump money in one direction. This is by design.

Designing this level of control out of government or private hands is desireable. We know what happens with the opposite - institutional theft.
 

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damn brexit
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But, for perpective:

Britain is also now predicted to have the joint fastest growth of the G7 leading rich countries, together with the US, although that follows a contraction last year that was the deepest in that group.

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caLLous

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Exactly. The UK suffered the biggest dip, it sure as shit better then demonstrate the biggest recovery.
 

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Careful now, that almost sounds like positive news. Not going to go down well.

The thing with reports like this is that most people overlook the fact that say a 10% contraction following by a 10% recovery means you are still worse off than when you started.
 

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It is the design of our economy that caused the bigger drop and also the faster recovery, really it is a nothing story in the end when you consider both aspects.
 

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Stupid fucking Tories, Jesus fucking Christ. Hang your heads in shame.

I do feel some sympathy for him, he was brought to the UK through no fault of his own, and his parents lack of concern for his official status is what led to this, but I dont think Tory's have much to do with this. He would have been deported under a labour government too. Drugs plus violence and you're gone.
 

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I do feel some sympathy for him, he was brought to the UK through no fault of his own, and his parents lack of concern for his official status is what led to this, but I dont think Tory's have much to do with this. He would have been deported under a labour government too. Drugs plus violence and you're gone.

I get that and would agree if someone came here as an adult...but he was 5. What's he going to do in Zimbabwe? He can't even speak their language, knows nobody there, has no money, nowhere to live. What benefit does it serve anyone?

I came to the UK at 3 from Germany (born on a military base) have have absolutely no memory of Germany.
 

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Absolutely massive storm going on about a mile away, blazing sunshine overhead. Epic experience.
 

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Absolutely massive storm going on about a mile away, blazing sunshine overhead. Epic experience.

Probably the one we had on the berks/bucks border about an hour and a half ago. Hurled it down for about 20 minutes, with thunder and lightning. Looks like it's heading back here for round 2 now.
 
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DaGaffer

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I do feel some sympathy for him, he was brought to the UK through no fault of his own, and his parents lack of concern for his official status is what led to this, but I dont think Tory's have much to do with this. He would have been deported under a labour government too. Drugs plus violence and you're gone.

That's not true. Whilst the ability to deport has always been on the books, this whole "deport them even though they were infants when they got here" is pure Tory; it was put in under Theresa May's tenure as Home Secretary.
 

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It still blows my mind that some people believe that a person who has been brought up in our country from a very young age is suddenly the responsibility of the country they were originally from.
 

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I also think, historically, we should be more flexible with countries from the old Empire, as a country we owe them that much.
 

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That's not true. Whilst the ability to deport has always been on the books, this whole "deport them even though they were infants when they got here" is pure Tory; it was put in under Theresa May's tenure as Home Secretary.
Yep - it's a Tory thing.

I don't feel particularly sorry for the cunt - as @SilverHood says - "drugs and violence".

However, what I do object to is US doing the wrong thing. Especially just to appease Tory voters who just want to kick people. "Yeah he's a criminal, he deserves anything he gets - lets fuck him off to Zimbabwe".

Nah, that's a bigger crime than he's likely to have committed. He's clearly our responsibility. Prison / rehabilitation (lol) and a miserable life in blighty is the punishment. Not fuck him out of the country.

Fucking Tories.
 

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