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[Job]

I think I got the shit ripped for saying this at the time.


Grenfell Tower report – section by section: the 1,000 pages of damning criticism on failures that compounded tragedy

 

[Scouse]

I think I got the shit ripped for saying this at the time.


Grenfell Tower report – section by section: the 1,000 pages of damning criticism on failures that compounded tragedy

Saying what, exactly, @Job?

That's an article about a 4000 page report which absolves residents of fault.

Which bit of it are you cherry picking (and blaming the *whole thing* on?), or are you claiming the whole report as yours?

 

[Job]

That the fire brigade and the emergency services should take most of the blame.

It was entirely survivable...outdated and incompetent procedures sent those people to their deaths.

And even more frightening is they are still in place

 

[caLLous]

‘Star Wars’ Setback: ‘Game Of Thrones’ Duo Exit Lucasfilm Trilogy – Deadline

 

[Scouse]

That the fire brigade and the emergency services should take most of the blame

It doesn't quite say that - whilst it is pretty condemning of the fire service the principal reasons for the deaths are clearly with the construction of a building that didn't meet regulation standards.

The “principle reason” why flames shot up the side of the 24-storey block at such terrifying speed was the aluminium composite material (ACM) rainscreen panels with a flammable polyethylene core, which “acted as a source of fuel”, the report claims.

Its rapid spread was also accelerated by the insulation boards behind the cladding panels and the window surrounds, both of which had combustible materials....

...The external walls of Grenfell Tower - which were the focal point of the refurbishment work - failed to comply with building regulations, the report concludes.

...that the walls did not “adequately resist the spread of fire”. “On the contrary, they actively promoted it

.

It was a cluster fuck all round tbh - but probably wouldn't have happened if building regs were followed.

 

[Embattle]

Perfect storm.

 

[Job]

Its a tough old life, 10 million kids here though...overlooking Windermere from Cartmel Fell

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[fettoken]

It was a cluster fuck all round tbh - but probably wouldn't have happened if building regs were followed.

One could say they made a killing renting out the house..

 

[fettoken]

Firesale?

 

[Embattle]

Facebook’s Libra faces eurozone backlash

Would you really consider using it?

 

[Wij]

Facebook’s Libra faces eurozone backlash

Would you really consider using it?

Fuck no.

 

[Job]

That the fire brigade and the emergency services should take most of the blame.

It was entirely survivable...outdated and incompetent procedures sent those people to their deaths.

And even more frightening is they are still in place

Its sad I have to say this but after reading facebooks reaction to the report, obviously Im talking about senior management...not the firefighters on the ground.
'Tory bastards attack people who risked their lives' is the rather clueless reaction.

The report clearly praises the fire crews and slams the management.

 

[Scouse]

Facebook have released a statement on Grenfell?

 

[Scouse]

Fuck no.

Millions would tho.

 

[Moriath]

Firesale?

Oo should be in the bad jokes thread lol. You will get @Gwadien blaming the tories and chastising your joke lol

 

[Bodhi]

Facebook’s Libra faces eurozone backlash

Would you really consider using it?

Probably not as we already have a well established option on Crypto - not sure what another "standard" would bring.

I am against banning it in principle though, as I am with most things. I can see why the Eurozone wants to though - taking banking out of the control of central governments is the last thing the EZ needs - it's on life support as it is.

 

[Gwadien]

Oo should be in the bad jokes thread lol. You will get @Gwadien blaming the tories and chastising your joke lol

I blame people that vote for the Tories then deny that their cost-cutting has no effect on people.

 

[Scouse]

Do

I blame people that vote for the Tories then deny that their cost-cutting has no effect on people.

Don't bite Gwad

 

[fettoken]

Oo should be in the bad jokes thread lol. You will get @Gwadien blaming the tories and chastising your joke lol

Bad taste joke thread’s like going up on stage and peeps here enjoy a good heckling!

 

[DaGaffer]

Probably not as we already have a well established option on Crypto - not sure what another "standard" would bring.

I am against banning it in principle though, as I am with most things. I can see why the Eurozone wants to though - taking banking out of the control of central governments is the last thing the EZ needs - it's on life support as it is.

I live with a work environment completely overseen by Central Bank regulation every day, and its often a massive pain in the arse; but I’d still take that over Facebook being in charge of the money any day. The very fact that most of their Libra partners are jumping ship due to FB’s cavalier attitude to regulation and due diligence tells you all you need to know.

 

[Scouse]

I live with a work environment completely overseen by Central Bank regulation every day

Where you at now Gaff?

 

[Bodhi]

I live with a work environment completely overseen by Central Bank regulation every day, and its often a massive pain in the arse; but I’d still take that over Facebook being in charge of the money any day. The very fact that most of their Libra partners are jumping ship due to FB’s cavalier attitude to regulation and due diligence tells you all you need to know.

Don't disagree with any of that. But I still don't think it should be banned - if Facebook's attitude to privacy bothers you (and it probably should), then just don't use it, and use BTC instead.

 

[Scouse]

Probably not as we already have a well established option on Crypto

BTC is the most known about tech, but it's hardly "well-established" Bodhi.

It's crypto wild-west at the moment - and Facebook's muscle combined with their privacy issues is certainly cause for concern as they're making their pitch.

 

[Gwadien]

It's actually funny how Mr Robot is turning into reality.

 

[DaGaffer]

Don't disagree with any of that. But I still don't think it should be banned - if Facebook's attitude to privacy bothers you (and it probably should), then just don't use it, and use BTC instead.

"Ban" just means "isn't approved by a regulator", which is the same for any financial services product. And yes, in that context Libra should be "banned".

 

[Scouse]

It's actually funny how Mr Robot is turning into reality.

Gave up after Season 1 (which I enjoyed immensely) - because someone told me the ending of Season 2. I hear it's gone right downhill?

Anyway - which bits of Mr Robot are coming true? Don't remember it being particularly crypto-heavy?

 

[Gwadien]

Gave up after Season 1 (which I enjoyed immensely) - because someone told me the ending of Season 2. I hear it's gone right downhill?

Anyway - which bits of Mr Robot are coming true? Don't remember it being particularly crypto-heavy?

I dunno, I like it.

Basically, there's a huge financial crash, and Evil Corp brings out their own crypto-currency which takes over the state currency.

 

[Job]

This at first look is almost beyond belief; but I can support much of the professors argument about reality , its calling it whiteness thats baffling.

This is a US college professor claiming space was invented by white people...kinda taking identity politics into the abstract.

View: https://youtu.be/YjvmIFrX1xQ

 

[Scouse]

Basically, there's a huge financial crash, and Evil Corp brings out their own crypto-currency which takes over the state currency.

"Evil Corp" would

Funny how all the money-laundering banks (including the central banks) are all down on Crypto, when it would put transactional power in the hands of the people, remove false inflationary and interest mechanisms of wealth stealing and allow value-trading decisions made at the point of sale - amongst all the transparency and instant-transactional cheapness eh?