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[DaGaffer]

No, it's a Meme which ridicules and undermines a genuine movement, i'm sure you'd raise your eyebrows if the 'joke' (which wasn't even remotely funny) was homophobic/racist etc.

It's a bit like lots of people hate Muslims, but have never met one and their only exposure is through terrorist attacks reported on the news. You can tell it's something created by the alt-right because it's not funny and that's their new attempt at getting support for their policies - memes.

It's this kind of shit that makes you come to your conclusions about 'everyone being able to identify what they want and everyone has to accept it' makes it sound like everyone in the world is just flipping through genders at will, I bet there's way more people that whine about transgender people than there are actual transgenderz.

Problem is, there really is a militant group of trans...(I really can't keep up with the nomenclature)...rights activists, who sit entirely in this space. Gender as a state of mind, rather than any physical reality. Emily is a joke to make an exaggerated point, a role that jokes are apparently no longer allowed to do.

Of course the best version of this joke was made 40 years ago, her name was Loretta, and it's still valid.

 

[Scouse]

it's still valid.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c

 

[Gwadien]

Problem is, there really is a militant group of trans...(I really can't keep up with the nomenclature)...rights activists, who sit entirely in this space. Gender as a state of mind, rather than any physical reality. Emily is a joke to make an exaggerated point, a role that jokes are apparently no longer allowed to do.

Of course the best version of this joke was made 40 years ago, her name was Loretta, and it's still valid.

I've addressed this a billion times.

Whenever Lad Bible or some other trash Facebook based media group post anything about Trans people doing ridiculous stuff, it's -always- these tiny minority militant groups who are quoted on saying ridiculous shit in order to stir the pot.

If you were Trans and you were fighting for your rights, would you really want to support someone who said they're trans so they can go to a female prison or something ridiculous, I mean, really?

I'm all for humour on stuff like this, but in the correct context. I can pretty much promise you that this originated on alt-right forum or something, it's their way of distorting the truth and reality in a sub conscious way, it's sinister.

 

[Scouse]

To be fair - Judith has the right approach above. Watch it again. It costs nothing and makes people happy.

(Although the conceit about trans people "wanting to have babies" doesn't really fit with what trans people are actually after).

 

[Gwadien]

We're not North Korea, we want freedoms, we want people to do what they want!

So long as they remain within pre-allocated boxes.

 

[Gwadien]

Holy fuck!

Full article; Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

tl;dr elderly stuff is mostly shop lifting, they do it because they're in poverty and they want to go to prison.

 

[Bodhi]

I've addressed this a billion times.

Whenever Lad Bible or some other trash Facebook based media group post anything about Trans people doing ridiculous stuff, it's -always- these tiny minority militant groups who are quoted on saying ridiculous shit in order to stir the pot.

If you were Trans and you were fighting for your rights, would you really want to support someone who said they're trans so they can go to a female prison or something ridiculous, I mean, really?

I'm all for humour on stuff like this, but in the correct context. I can pretty much promise you that this originated on alt-right forum or something, it's their way of distorting the truth and reality in a sub conscious way, it's sinister.

Dude, it's a joke. Calm yer tits.

 

[DaGaffer]

Holy fuck!

Full article; Why some Japanese pensioners want to go to jail

tl;dr elderly stuff is mostly shop lifting, they do it because they're in poverty and they want to go to prison.

Isn’t this just...there are more old people in Japan now?

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[DaGaffer]

I've addressed this a billion times.

Whenever Lad Bible or some other trash Facebook based media group post anything about Trans people doing ridiculous stuff, it's -always- these tiny minority militant groups who are quoted on saying ridiculous shit in order to stir the pot.

If you were Trans and you were fighting for your rights, would you really want to support someone who said they're trans so they can go to a female prison or something ridiculous, I mean, really?

I'm all for humour on stuff like this, but in the correct context. I can pretty much promise you that this originated on alt-right forum or something, it's their way of distorting the truth and reality in a sub conscious way, it's sinister.

Timely
Scottish feminist group says transgender laws risk women's rights

There are real concerns about the direction of travel of this stuff.

 

[Gwadien]

Timely
Scottish feminist group says transgender laws risk women's rights

There are real concerns about the direction of travel of this stuff.

I think common sense plays a role in this.

Provide evidence that there's been cases of lads saying that they identify as girls so they can see the girls in the changing room.

All I'm seeing is self centred activists telling everyone that their rights are more important than other peoples rights.

 

[Bodhi]

I think common sense plays a role in this.

Provide evidence that there's been cases of lads saying that they identify as girls so they can see the girls in the changing room.

All I'm seeing is self centred activists telling everyone that their rights are more important than other peoples rights.

Ian Huntley 'demands sex change to start new life as Nicola in women's prison'

 

[Gwadien]

Ian Huntley 'demands sex change to start new life as Nicola in women's prison'

Hasn't happened.

 

[DaGaffer]

I think common sense plays a role in this.

Provide evidence that there's been cases of lads saying that they identify as girls so they can see the girls in the changing room.

All I'm seeing is self centred activists telling everyone that their rights are more important than other peoples rights.

You don't need to provide evidence if you decide to give such behaviour legal protection. Then it will be too late to do anything about it. Beware of unintended consequences.

Sorry, I'm just not impressed by the concept of enshrining wish fulfillment as a legal right.

 

[Scouse]

Ian Huntley 'demands sex change to start new life as Nicola in women's prison'

What if it's genuine?

Apart from deprivement of their liberty our prison population is still UK population and should be treated as such.

But yeah, hasn't happened.

 

[Gwadien]

You don't need to provide evidence if you decide to give such behaviour legal protection. Then it will be too late to do anything about it. Beware of unintended consequences.

Sorry, I'm just not impressed by the concept of enshrining wish fulfillment as a legal right.

I'm fairly sure lots of people said exactly the same when homosexuality was decriminalised.

Also, 'such behaviour' lol.

 

[Scouse]

Sorry, I'm just not impressed by the concept of enshrining wish fulfillment as a legal right.

Agree.

But then I'm not in favour of segregated spaces because people "feel" intimidated.

Mixed sex changing rooms, toilets (and medical wards) work in loads of parts of the world. All this bullshit is down to our fuddy-duddy binary-world-view Christian hangover. Other, supposedly "less civilized" countries give zero fucks about this sort of stuff.

 

[Scouse]

Weekend plans people?

I'm off here for a big fuck off bike ride, then I'm going round a mates to eat three kilos of this

Yes. I fucking win.

 

[DaGaffer]

I'm fairly sure lots of people said exactly the same when homosexuality was decriminalised.

Also, 'such behaviour' lol.

Homosexuality is a thing you are. Deciding to self-select your gender is literally the opposite of that. It’s a construct designed to make you feel better about yourself, and while the law should avoid discrimination against such choices, that doesn’t mean the law should afford such choices special protection. I don’t give a shit if people want put on a dress and taking hormone pills by the truckload, but I also a. Don’t want to pay for it, and b. Don’t want to create legal loopholes for the unscrupulous to exploit. And just to be clear, I’m not talking about actual trans people in women’s (or men’s) changing rooms, I’m talking about predatory men using the legal system to do so (and don’t say they wouldn’t do it if the legal system let them, there are loads or arseholes out there who would be only too willing). Unintended consequences. If its a straight fight between the needs of 50% of the population and 1%, I’m going to go with the 50%.

And “such behavior” was referring to your example of someone abusing the system, not the behavior of choosing to be trans in general.

NB. I’d also put very strict limits on people being allowed to transition before they are legally an adult. If we can stop under 18s fighting wars we can stop them mutilating themselves before they’ve finished puberty.

 

[Access Denied]

I fully support the right for people to identify as whatever gender they feel they are. However there are real concerns among women that the safe spaces they have could be jeopardized by predatory males using any self-determination law to commit crimes. Obviously you'll get the bigots who just don't like trans women but the vast majority are simply worried about their safety. A trans-woman should have every right to use a women's bathroom, for example but I don't think that should be allowed to happen without their trans status being signed off on by a doctor or psychatrist.

 

[Scouse]

there are real concerns among women that the safe spaces they have could be jeopardized by predatory males using any self-determination law to commit crimes. Obviously you'll get the bigots who just don't like trans women but the vast majority are simply worried about their safety..

Massively overblown concerns.

 

[Bodhi]

Hasn't happened.

You asked for evidence of lads saying they wanted to be girls so they could go places they shouldn't, this was provided.

But if you want one that actually happened

Karen White: how 'manipulative' transgender inmate attacked again

 

[Job]

Hasn't happened.

Just kill it..its the only way to be sure.

 

[Job]

Deepfake in five years time is going to be a serious problem.



View: https://youtu.be/lXfq3BHu1SM

 

[Access Denied]

Massively overblown concerns.

Care to explain why? Women have enough to worry about regarding their safety, without the opposite sex being given essentially free access to their safe spaces. Most rapes and sexual assaults go unreported because the victims are afraid and those who do report it are often blamed for it because of the way they acted or because of the clothes they were wearing.

 

[CorNokZ]

I'm a girl born in a boy's body, but i am also a crossdresser so I dress like a man. On top of that I am a raging homosexual, so girls, if you want a sensual and very confusing lay, I'm your guy! Or girl.. I can't figure it out either..

 

[Scouse]

I think your post explains why @BloodOmen.

Take another look at what you posted. If you can't see it I can't help ya.

 

[Gwadien]

Care to explain why? Women have enough to worry about regarding their safety, without the opposite sex being given essentially free access to their safe spaces. Most rapes and sexual assaults go unreported because the victims are afraid and those who do report it are often blamed for it because of the way they acted or because of the clothes they were wearing.

Again, how many cases are there of assaults in 'safe spaces'?

It's just this decades moral panic.

 

[Job]

As usual the tiresome use of crime figures to argue how dangerous something is.

Heres a clue..people are not inanimate objects, they react to howthreatened they feel...you could have axe murderers running the streets and crime would fall...because, no shit.
Everyone would hide inside and barricade their doors.

 

[Gwadien]

So you're saying that axe murderers are the same level of threat as trans people?