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[Job]

Ladies and Gentleman.

The future PM.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34537841

Boom.

Kid looked foreign, should have finished him off.

 

[Bodhi]

@Bodhi - *fap fap fap fap*

Just look at this dude.

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/2-series/16801/bmw-m2-revealed-why-buy-an-m4

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ealed-new-video-and-exclusive-studio-pictures


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww37JDbFO20

Was looking at that for a large amount of time yesterday - fantastic looking thing, and it's going to be awesome to drive.

You can keep your self driving (kind of) Tesla, I want one of these.

 

[Yoni]

Ladies and Gentleman.

The future PM.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34537841

Boom.

I love Boris.... Didn't he recover well <3

 

[Trem]

@Bodhi - *fap fap fap fap*

Just look at this dude.

http://www.evo.co.uk/bmw/2-series/16801/bmw-m2-revealed-why-buy-an-m4

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/n...ealed-new-video-and-exclusive-studio-pictures


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww37JDbFO20

Do the indicators work on that one?

 

[Gwadien]

@caLLous

I've been thinking about that firework display in France on Bastille day, which was paid by the local 'noble' family.

It's pretty bizarre that they paid for a celebration which is against them, with your infinite knowledge, do you know if this is normal, or?

 

[Job]

What do you think of the fake china spacewalk conspiracy...I usually dismiss this bolaks, but if the footage they are showing is the original, it does seem very suspect.
China's Space Walk Was FAKE (part 1):
View: http://youtu.be/lBL98p0wZ7g

 

[Bodhi]

http://www.theladbible.com/articles...llowing-festival-goers-to-carry-ecstasy-pills

Yes yes I know it's from the Lad Bible, but go Dutchyland!

 

[Raven]

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[CorNokZ]

haha quality prank

 

[Moriath]

Harvest series on bbc2 this week had phillipa forresster on. Oh i had a big thing for her when she was younger and she aged well

 

[Job]

Chris Evans with slick back hair is not a good look

 

[caLLous]

 

[Scouse]

Don't know why they call her a feminist? But definitely crazy.

 

[Job]

Here is a proper hero.

http://m.pekintimes.com/article/20151015/NEWS/151019593

 

[Gwadien]

Don't know why they call her a feminist? But definitely crazy.

Because feminists are crazy.

I read an interesting article the other day about how feminism has been dragged through the mud in recent years, although they should have technically had more of a respected voice.

Most people think of feminists as anti men when it just isn't true, feminists in history are equally respected as marxists etc, simply because they do raise valid points, in the real world, they're seen as bat shit crazy, I guess it's the same for socialists/marxists, dare to be different

 

[Access Denied]

I think Emma Watson is doing a lot for the feminist image and it's about time. My best friend is a feminist and the amount of times people have said "Oh, so she hates men then!"

I'm getting tired of explaining that feminists and man haters (Misandrists) are two completely separate types of people.

 

[Yoni]

You can't just say Feminists are all nutters.... There are more subcategories in this group than types of quality street especially
If you go to the sub sub category....

Most of the women I work with believe that the only way to rid the world of patriarchal societies is buy the actions of the individual. I also believe in this view. Yes there can be some laws changed to remove barriers of 'opression' ie job discrimination yadda yadda but i take personal responsibility for how I am perceived in the world and any ambitions I have are there for me to achieve..., I really hate positive discrimination and if I were given a job on the basis that I had a vagina instead of a penis... I wouldn't take it... It's insulting... I have managed to achieve a quite successful career in a very male dominated industry... And it can't have been because I had a loveable physique... For the first half of my career at this company I was 150ish kg...

 

[Bodhi]

Because feminists are crazy.

I read an interesting article the other day about how feminism has been dragged through the mud in recent years, although they should have technically had more of a respected voice.

Most people think of feminists as anti men when it just isn't true, feminists in history are equally respected as marxists etc, simply because they do raise valid points, in the real world, they're seen as bat shit crazy, I guess it's the same for socialists/marxists, dare to be different

Marxists are well respected? Lol. Think you've probably been hanging round the Student Union too much there m8, as most of the idea have been rejected by most of the world (outside Islington North) as batshit crazy and not entirely workable.

 

[Job]

So the people I grew up with in Cornwall now live in Port Isacc , where they film Doc Martin and she drives the cast around as a summer job, so she ends up driving Sigourney Weaver around cos she's in a few episodes.
Then Sigourney falls in love with a puppy from her farm...adopts it and arranges for it to be flown to the states, texts my friend everyday on it's progress, she's driving to Camelford and has an end over end car crash and kills the dog.
So basically my mate has just killed Ripleys dog.
Oh and she broke her leg.

 

[Gwadien]

Marxists are well respected? Lol. Think you've probably been hanging round the Student Union too much there m8, as most of the idea have been rejected by most of the world (outside Islington North) as batshit crazy and not entirely workable.

Read my post again, Academic Marxists are respected, outside of that, they're what you said.

The issue with 'mainstream' Marxism is that people perceive it as communism, IE communism in practice; that's the furthest thing from the truth in reality, TL;DR; Marxism was progressive Socialism into Communism, not a Autocracy progressing into Communism.

Which why as a theory, it's actually yet to be disproven, although everyone would be led to believe that it has been disproven, the only properly 'Marxist' country is probably modern day Cuba, and we hear loads about them, don't we?

Cue @Scouse

You can't just say Feminists are all nutters.... There are more subcategories in this group than types of quality street especially
If you go to the sub sub category....

Most of the women I work with believe that the only way to rid the world of patriarchal societies is buy the actions of the individual. I also believe in this view. Yes there can be some laws changed to remove barriers of 'opression' ie job discrimination yadda yadda but i take personal responsibility for how I am perceived in the world and any ambitions I have are there for me to achieve..., I really hate positive discrimination and if I were given a job on the basis that I had a vagina instead of a penis... I wouldn't take it... It's insulting... I have managed to achieve a quite successful career in a very male dominated industry... And it can't have been because I had a loveable physique... For the first half of my career at this company I was 150ish kg...

I hope you do realise that I was taking the common view on feminists

 

[Bodhi]

I wouldn't entirely agree Academic Marxists were all that well respected, except by other Marxists (so that's most of Academia then....).

However I have read your post again, and I missed something you said that's even sillier - equating socialism and daring to be different. Considering socialism gave rise to that wonderful law of Janté our Scandinavian cousins are so fond of (or not in the case of the Scandos who live elsewhere), I'm assuming socialists dare to be different in the same way Goths and Emos dare to be different - by all appearing to be exactly the fucking same.

 

[Job]

The moment Boris realised that communism was pants in a US supermarket, he went straight home to start ditching it.

 

[Gwadien]

I wouldn't entirely agree Academic Marxists were all that well respected, except by other Marxists (so that's most of Academia then....).

However I have read your post again, and I missed something you said that's even sillier - equating socialism and daring to be different. Considering socialism gave rise to that wonderful law of Janté our Scandinavian cousins are so fond of (or not in the case of the Scandos who live elsewhere), I'm assuming socialists dare to be different in the same way Goths and Emos dare to be different - by all appearing to be exactly the fucking same.

I have edited my post above...

I mean daring to be different can mean that you can be associated with the looneys, I personally believe that Marxism puts forward some excellent points and is getting there at perhaps putting forward some half-baked arguments, I wouldn't agree with them fully, but I sympathise with the views that they create.

Similar case for Feminism, you have Josephine Bloggette, she just wants there to be a bit more equality, so she doesn't hit the glass ceiling which men can easily get past. @Yoni can be my Josephine, but there's also feminists who go out of their way to shave their head and spout about stuff like that Women are superior (ha!....) and that men cause all the bother in the world, and we'd be so much better off with vegetable men who are just used for reproduction, they get the attention.

There's a fascinating historian called Foucault (French, Gay, first 'known' Frenchman to get AIDS during its height, what's not to love.) He basically said stuff like the State loves disasters, because it means that they can enforce laws and such which makes it easier to control the masses.

Now, he was super respected and people were +ing him all over the world, whilst some Marxists were sitting there thinking, I said that 20 years ago, and I got lol'd at, whut?

I just realised that I may be having a civilised conversation with Bodhi without calling each other names.

I might cry

 

[Bodhi]

I know this is scary!

Unfortunately as ever, I think feminism is a cause that started off with the best intentions and an honourable as a cause, has been completely hijacked by some utter looneys who do nothing but harm. Not only the misandrists and female supermacists you describe, but all the lawyers and activists trying to create problems where no such problems exist (such as the Chelsea Doctor case and most of the columns in the Guardian). Environmentalism is another one - for instance one of the founders of Greenpeace wants absolutely nothing to do with them any more as their cause has been hijacked by a bunch of raving communists).

 

[soze]

I agree it is like survivalists calling themselves Patriots in America it slowly starts to drag everyone down so it becomes a dirty word.

 

[DaGaffer]

Read my post again, Academic Marxists are respected, outside of that, they're what you said.

The issue with 'mainstream' Marxism is that people perceive it as communism, IE communism in practice; that's the furthest thing from the truth in reality, TL;DR; Marxism was progressive Socialism into Communism, not a Autocracy progressing into Communism.

Which why as a theory, it's actually yet to be disproven, although everyone would be led to believe that it has been disproven, the only properly 'Marxist' country is probably modern day Cuba, and we hear loads about them, don't we?

Cue @Scouse



I hope you do realise that I was taking the common view on feminists

Is Cuba fuck "properly Marxist". Not even close.

 

[Gwadien]

Is Cuba fuck "properly Marxist". Not even close.

It's closer to 'Properly Marxist' than any other nation on this rock tbh.

 

[Yoni]

I remember the days when I would spout all my newly acquired sociological / psychological theories oO. At some point I realised I could think for myself oO

 

[Lakih]

It's kind of fun to watch the roller coaster of life though.
Teenager - The world hates me!
Young adult at university - I can change the world!
30+ - I hate the world!
40+ (told to anyone not 30+) - In the good ol' days
55+ - When I was your age...
65+ - Who cares what they think, I'll be dead soon anyway

 

[DaGaffer]

It's closer to 'Properly Marxist' than any other nation on this rock tbh.

Which means nothing. A genuine Marxist state is impossible because humans don't (can't) fit the theory. So arguing Marxism hasn't been disproved is a tautology.

As for Cuba. It actually didn't start out as Marxist, (it was an agrarian reform movement), was forced into the Soviet sphere through lack of any other real option, wrapped itself in red stars and hammers and sickles, but it's never really followed through on the whole Marxist dialectic. If you actually talk to a Cuban, "the revolution" is a mantra of opposition to America, rather than a genuine class consciousness (one taxi driver I met was literally extolling the revolution in one sentence and hoping he could swap his piece of shit Lada for an Audi in the next) . It's effectively been about as Marxist as WWII Britain; (an authoritarian command economy with a "we're all in it together" propaganda rhetoric), and for broadly similar reasons.