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[Edmond]

Don't any of you ever buy a TVR then. I doubt you'd ever escape a Chimaera.

Yeah but to be fair you'd never get it out of the garage, so the chances of it actually starting and being able to drive it anywhere are pretty remote aren't they

 

[TdC]

It is in the footwell. At your feet. If that's beyond you then wiping your arse is sometimes beyond you*!

*and I don't believe it is.

Going a bit far there imo chum. If I consider my GT; it has an electronic opening boot. There is a button for opening the boot on the dashboard and on the keyfob. *Inside* the boot there is a drawstring that can operate the lock mechanism mechanically. I had no clue what it was until I noticed it and wondered what it was for. I worked out that if my car ever was in a situation where I couldn't open either door I would have to undo the rear seat backrest to get in to the boot, and then mechanically open the boot to get out. If I had to to that stuff under pressure I would probably die: the interior of the GT is fairly cramped and I would have to do a lot of bending, twisting and manipulating of the seats to get in to the boot. If I had to do that with, for example, a broken collarbone it would end poorly for me.

 

[Scouse]

Going a bit far there imo chum. If I consider my GT; it has an electronic opening boot.

Why wouldn't you get out of your front door? I mean - if you're manufacturing a situation where you can't open other doors (e.g. you've been in a crash and the only way out is the boot) then I can see that your boot open device is a great bonus, not a hard to find danger...

I seriously cannot see any car manufacturer not having an easily available emergency open device. The one in the pic is in the footwell...

 

[Gwadien]

@TdC you've raised another annoying thing about new cars.

Electronic Boots.

Fine, have a mechanism that allows the boots to be electronically open/closed, but for fucksake, also have a mechanism which allows it to be manually closed, IE, my dad's Merc has one where you have to press a button if you want to do it electronically.

Out of habit, I always shove the boot down, and I get moaned at, every time.

Logic would dictate that you have a mechanism where if enough pressure is applied at the top of the boot it would say 'Hang on, I think this wants to be shut' and do it for you.

Not fucking break it.

 

[Moriath]

Even my mum would be able to kick out a window.

If your not disabled. I dont see the problem.

 

[Tom]

Not for the squeamish.


View: https://youtu.be/4BVjvfGtyc0

 

[caLLous]

Even my mum would be able to kick out a window.

If your not disabled. I dont see the problem.

You don't know what you're talking about. If you have a tool (we used to have a tool in the car that had a blade to cut seat belts and a little pointy metal bit to smash windows - lots of pressure to a tiny surface area) then it's easy but if all you have is feet and elbows, you're going to struggle. Especially if you're a 72 year old man.

 

[caLLous]

Tamir Rice: US police face charges over boy's death

I'm glad this one hasn't been swept under the rug, I hope he gets charged and convicted.

 

[Raven]

Even my mum would be able to kick out a window.

If your not disabled. I dont see the problem.

No she couldn't. The glass in cars isn't like the glass you have in your house windows, it is toughened and difficult to get through. That's why thieving oiks use hammers and stuff to get through them and why on buses and coaches you see the little red hammers.

 

[Raven]

*Inside* the boot there is a drawstring that can operate the lock mechanism mechanically. .

Hmm, makes surprise boot passengers problematic.

 

[old.Tohtori]

(we used to have a tool in the car that had a blade to cut seat belts and a little pointy metal bit to smash windows

TBH everyone still should, as well as carry an emergency kit and road warning sign thingy.

 

[Edmond]

As I work with glass, and have done for 30 yrs (yes I’m that old) I thought I’d throw my hat in the ring

Front windscreens are laminated glass, (2 sheets bonded together) which means when they break they crack but hold together, which I’m sure most of you are aware of.

They used to be toughened glass, which when breaks shatters in to thousands of little pieces, but when you are doing 50mph down the motorway and a stone breaks it, the screen becomes almost impossible to see out of, hence they changed them to laminated.

Modern screens are bonded in so well around the edges that you need special tool to get them out. Anyone who has ever sat and watched the guys from Auto windscreens cut out the old ones will know how hard it is

If you kicked the screen from the inside it would take even a relatively fit person quite a few attempt to break it, but to actually kick it out would be extremely hard to do. Old cars used to have the screens held in by just a rubber gasket that lipped over the flange of the bodywork, and yes they were a lot easier to kick out, but now they are bonded in

The side window would be your best bet, but if you tried kicking them (being toughened) you would probably never break them. A tool in the car such as @caLLous mentioned is the best bet, by hitting with a pointed blow will break toughened glass so much easier than a fist or the flat of a shoe. I have thrown sheets of toughened glass in the skip and belted them with a hammer and they still don't break

It’s kind of what toughened glass is designed to do. In fact the easiest way to break a sheet of toughened glass is to hit it on its edge, it’s the weakest part, but that doesn't help when the edges of the glass in a car door are inside the door guides.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Then ofcourse, this could happen even with a tool;


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqzE0sHx3_8


Not to mention the hammer

 

[Edmond]

This is exactly it, also the fact the glass is convex from the side he is hitting it helps it to be stronger. If you look at the back side window on that car, and most modern cars, the edge of the sheet of glass is exposed, the easiest way for him to have broken into the car would have been to get a flat screwdriver on the edge of the glass and then hit it with the hammer, it would broken very easily

 

[Moriath]

No she couldn't. The glass in cars isn't like the glass you have in your house windows, it is toughened and difficult to get through. That's why thieving oiks use hammers and stuff to get through them and why on buses and coaches you see the little red hammers.

I seen someone punch the side window of a car and smash it.

 

[fettoken]

Fucking hell. Choosing interior design-options for the apartment. Fucking 1300 quid for a walnut bench-top.

 

[DaGaffer]

this tbh. it's a door. it's meant to be operable, and for that there is usually a generic device named a door handle. imo a door that doesn't have handles isn't a door any more. I'd say a no-handled door is about the same as a wall.

Weight and crash protection are the main reasons. Adding in handles "unnecessarily" (obviously not in this case) creates the opportunity for parts to intrude into the passenger cell in a crash. Looking at it statistically, more people have probably avoided side-impact injuries by not having handles in the doors.

 

[Bodhi]

This is one thing I've always wondered about glorified milk floats such as the Tesla or Leaf, I know if the battery runs dry you can't get into them, but is there a way of getting out again?

 

[old.user4556]

Don't any of you ever buy a TVR then. I doubt you'd ever escape a Chimaera.

That's very true. Even if you do escape a TVR you better have some step ladders to climb down off the inspection ramp otherwise you could be up there for a long time.

 

[caLLous]

Fucking hell. Choosing interior design-options for the apartment. Fucking 1300 quid for a walnut bench-top.

Another break-up?

 

[georgie]

flange

... That is all.

 

[fettoken]

Another break-up?

Haha, not at all. Just planning interior-customization for a new apt that is finished next year. But everything is overpriced, thus the question, pay the price now, or handle it with private contractors.

 

[russell]

Okay.

What if I got locked in someone elses car and I didn't know that?

I don't understand why you can't just have the old fashioned handles in the doors.

My Dad's merc does and he has all the fancy shit.

I was under the impression that all cars in Britain have a mechanical release system which is not affected by the battery. Hubby has just agreed and he is a mechanic.

 

[Gwadien]

I was under the impression that all cars in Britain have a mechanical release system which is not affected by the battery. Hubby has just agreed and he is a mechanic.

Nah, it does, but it's in the footwell, not in, you know, the door.

 

[Moriath]

TFI was a good show. Nice nostalgia trip . Think it had its day as a series though. But as a one off i enjoyed it.

 

[Shagrat]

TFI was a good show. Nice nostalgia trip . Think it had its day as a series though. But as a one off i enjoyed it.

yeah it was good as a one off

 

[Edmond]

Dave Grohl fell off stage at a gig in Sweden, got the band to cover a few songs and then came back on with his leg in plaster and finished the show, brilliant

 

[caLLous]

He kept on playing as the cast was being put on his leg.

 

[Edmond]

Odd, the news report says he went off to hospital, there's even a pic of him on a stretcher

But that's even better, he's a top bloke

 

[caLLous]

I think they did take him away, here's a few more pics. I guess they put the cast or splint or whatever on and then carried him off.