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[Moriath]

God looking at some of the comments in that article we really are becoming a nasty spiteful envious bunch on this island aren't we?

Yeah but he still was a dick

 

[Bodhi]

Yeah but he still was a dick

Completely, but suggesting to crush a Ferrari? What a senseless waste

 

[Moriath]

Completely, but suggesting to crush a Ferrari? What a senseless waste

Yes but he only needs an insured person to pick it up. If whoever bought it can't spring for a friend to be insured on it then it should be auctioned ., But as the law stands crushed.

 

[Overdriven]

There's no emote which shows how much i agree with Bod.

Also, my Ferrari has gone missing.

 

[Job]

And you can drop the bastard on the floor and never see it again.

http://www.sandisk.com/about-sandis...k-ultra-microsdxc-uhs-i-card-premium-edition/

 

[Scouse]

Completely, but suggesting to crush a Ferrari? What a senseless waste

You wouldn't be complaining if it was some chav's car - which would probably cost the chav a higher percentage of his disposable income than the owner of the ferrari...

 

[Gwadien]

You wouldn't be complaining if it was some chav's car - which would probably cost the chav a higher percentage of his disposable income than the owner of the ferrari...

This.

Wealth is relative.

I bet the guy who owns the Ferrari just bought a new one to avoid the embarrassment

 

[Scouse]

It's a case of "oh noes! You're punishing him because he's rich! You jealous little plebians"

"Er, no. We're punishing him because he's driving without a licence - which makes him a horrid cunt - crush his car like you would everyone else's"

 

[DaGaffer]

You wouldn't be complaining if it was some chav's car - which would probably cost the chav a higher percentage of his disposable income than the owner of the ferrari...

The Ferrari is art. You don't crush art.

 

[Scouse]

The Ferrari is art. You don't crush art.

Meh. It's not like it's a unique painting. It's just a very nice picture that's produced in a factory with others...

I'm not against an alternative punishment though. It could go into a lottery and be given to someone at random, or sold and the proceeds go to the NHS. As long as the fucker never gets it back tbh...

 

[Gwadien]

As much as I agree that Ferraris are nice, they're not exactly art, and if it was given back to the owner because of that, it should cause riots.

But it won't.

 

[Bodhi]

You wouldn't be complaining if it was some chav's car - which would probably cost the chav a higher percentage of his disposable income than the owner of the ferrari...

Well I would be complaining if it was a chav car - as the maximum punishment for driving without a license is potential disqualification - nothing about crushing a car.

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/motoring/vehicle_crime/500277.html

So sorry to attempt to fill in the massive chip on your shoulder, but by not crushing his car he IS being treated like everyone else.

 

[Scouse]

So sorry to attempt to fill in the massive chip on your shoulder, but by not crushing his car he IS being treated like everyone else.

Fair enough. I thought crushing was a thing is all - it's nothing to do, however, with some imaginary chip on my shoulder - just a desire to see everyone treated equally.

What was all that guff a few years back about people's cars being towed and crushed then?


.....actually - it IS a thing. If you've not got insurance. Which, of course, this cunt wouldn't have because he didn't even have a licence.

Take is car away and crush it. Now. If he'd hit a kid and killed it he'd just be another disgraceful cunt with no insurance and no recompense for the family. And I'd lock the cunt up too tbh.

Dunno about you Bodhi - but I've zero tolerance for the sort of disgraceful humans who drive around uninsured myself.

 

[caLLous]

If he didn't have a license he couldn't have been insured and the police can crush cars of uninsured drivers (iirc).

edit - yeah what @Scouse said

 

[Bodhi]

Depends on if the car was insured in his name or on a fleet policy. As there is no mention of him being done for no insurance, we shall have to assume it is the latter.

I know socialists struggle with technicalities sometimes, but in this case, I would say he is being treated like everyone else. Move along, nothing to see here etc...

 

[Moriath]

Depends on if the car was insured in his name or on a fleet policy. As there is no mention of him being done for no insurance, we shall have to assume it is the latter.

I know socialists struggle with technicalities sometimes, but in this case, I would say he is being treated like everyone else. Move along, nothing to see here etc...

The insurance would be Invalid for him. So it would be uninsured.

 

[caLLous]

Depends on if the car was insured in his name or on a fleet policy. As there is no mention of him being done for no insurance, we shall have to assume it is the latter.

We shall have to assume no such thing. You can assume what you like but as far as I'm aware any and all insurance ("fleet" or otherwise) is invalid if the driver doesn't have a license.

 

[Bodhi]

We shall have to assume no such thing. You can assume what you like but as far as I'm aware any and all insurance ("fleet" or otherwise) is invalid if the driver doesn't have a license.

Well OK then, as our Boys in Blue rarely miss an opportunity to prosecute somebody in these situations, and he has not been done for no insurance, I can only assume that he was covered.

 

[Scouse]

Depends on if the car was insured in his name or on a fleet policy. As there is no mention of him being done for no insurance, we shall have to assume it is the latter.

I know socialists struggle with technicalities sometimes, but in this case, I would say he is being treated like everyone else. Move along, nothing to see here etc...

No licence = no valid insurance.

It's not a technicality - he's a horrid criminal cunt. Chav or socialite - he's the sort of person who should, rightly, be vilified.


You can buy and insure a car - for off road storage - without a licence. But you can't be insured and drive without a licence in the UK.

You, sir, are an apologist for criminals simply because they're rich - you detest the poor but support the rich simply because they're rich - and call everyone around you hypocrites and socialists because they believe in equal treatment for criminals...

 

[caLLous]

...I can only assume that he was covered.

No you can't! Unless you can prove otherwise, he cannot have been insured if he doesn't have a license. It's that simple. So if they got him for having no license, he is automatically uninsured.

 

[Bodhi]

No licence = no valid insurance.

It's not a technicality - he's a horrid criminal cunt. Chav or socialite - he's the sort of person who should, rightly, be vilified.


You can buy and insure a car - for off road storage - without a licence. But you *cannot* be insured and drive without a licence in the UK.

You, sir, are an apologist for criminals simply because they're rich - you detest the poor but support the rich simply because they're rich - and call everyone around you hypocrites and socialists because they believe in equal treatment for criminals...

But his punishment is no different for anyone else driving without a license. OK if they'd done him for no insurance then yes, his car can be crushed. But as he wasn't it can't.

You can get as sneery and jump on your high horse until the cows come home, however the facts are he was done for no license, hence the punishment was correct. If he gets done at a later stage for no insurance then fair enough, but at this point, he hasn't.

HTH.

 

[Scouse]

So, you acknowledge that he can't actually legally hold insurance to drive but still don't want to condemn him as guilty and see his car crushed, like for everyone else?

I know socialists struggle with technicalities sometimes

I know rich-man apologists struggle with equal treatment for criminals sometimes, glad they can hide behind technicalities...

 

[Bodhi]

You're missing a very small but very important detail here - the car is German registered, so entirely likely that he has valid German insurance - but there is an issue with the validity of his license over here. We can only go on what limited information the Beeb have supplied us with, and that is that he was done for driving without a technically valid license. Hence the punishment fits the crime.

You can read more into this if you like if it keeps you frothing at the mouth about the evil rich (although going by the plates this chap was also an immigrant, that'll confuse the lefties), but from what I have read there, I see no reason to crush his car. You can infer what you like about who I'm an apologist for, but then that would be your opinion - and everyone has one of those.

 

[caLLous]

Based on what the beeb told us (when quoting from the official police statement) - there wasn't "an issue with the validity of his license", he didn't have a license.

 

[Raven]

God looking at some of the comments in that article we really are becoming a nasty spiteful envious bunch on this island aren't we?

Only the twatter brigade.

 

[Scouse]

if it keeps you frothing at the mouth about the evil rich

Don't care how much he earns/is worth.

I care a lot about uninsured drivers being on the roads. My dad was killed by one when I was four. I believe strongly in equal treatment for all regardless of wealth.


You have the problem with money - you keep bringing it up. That's because you're a fawning rich-man sycophant. If this was "uninsured benefit claimant gets caught without licence" you'd be champing at the bit to have him sterilised so he couldn't pass his undeserving genes on...

 

[Raven]

Fair enough. I thought crushing was a thing is all - it's nothing to do, however, with some imaginary chip on my shoulder - just a desire to see everyone treated equally.

What was all that guff a few years back about people's cars being towed and crushed then?


.....actually - it IS a thing. If you've not got insurance. Which, of course, this cunt wouldn't have because he didn't even have a licence.

Take is car away and crush it. Now. If he'd hit a kid and killed it he'd just be another disgraceful cunt with no insurance and no recompense for the family. And I'd lock the cunt up too tbh.

Dunno about you Bodhi - but I've zero tolerance for the sort of disgraceful humans who drive around uninsured myself.

Isn't German insurance on the car, rather than the person?

 

[Scouse]

Isn't German insurance on the car, rather than the person?

Who cares? If you're uninsured in Blighty then take the car and crush it.

(Or sell it and give the proceeds to something worthwhile...)


Edit:
I'm driving through france later this year. You can bet your ass I'll be checking I'm properly insured and observing their rules. Do you think they should let me off stuff I haven't done my basic due-diligence?

 

[Raven]

Nope, calm down a bit, deep breathing.

I offer no opinion on it, merely a question.

 

[Scouse]

Nope, calm down a bit, deep breathing.

Not angry at all m8. Just stating that I don't know and it shouldn't make a difference anyway