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[Job]

Her problem with people who have negro features is not irrational any more than me not liking fat asses on women, she approached the subject very sensibly about her own problem with black peoples features, because it's a touchy subject everyonr jumps to point and shout witch, this won't harm Ukip at all, it just reinforces supporters views that all the holier than thou brigade are stifling expression of true feeling....huge swathes of the country are suspicious of non whites and telling not to be is the same as telling someone with a fear of heights standing on a precipice to shut up snd get a grip.

 

[Raven]

er...

 

[Job]

Yes Raven a well written and thought provoking reply.

 

[Scouse]

er...

I think what Job is trying to say is that she's defending her emotional reaction - one Job believes is uncontrollable.

I've been looking at the is racism learned (which I lean towards) or innate (which there is evidence for). But I think it could well be a combination of the two - either way it's certainly possible to eradicate through proper education...


What's undoubted though is that racism is more prevalent amongst those with lower IQs.

And apparently so is social conservatism - something I've long thought tbh - which explains UKIP

"Socially conservative ideologies tend to offer structure and order," Hodson said, explaining why these beliefs might draw those with low intelligence. "Unfortunately, many of these features can also contribute to prejudice."

 

[mooSe_]

Her problem with people who have negro features is not irrational any more than me not liking fat asses on women, she approached the subject very sensibly about her own problem with black peoples features, because it's a touchy subject everyonr jumps to point and shout witch, this won't harm Ukip at all, it just reinforces supporters views that all the holier than thou brigade are stifling expression of true feeling....huge swathes of the country are suspicious of non whites and telling not to be is the same as telling someone with a fear of heights standing on a precipice to shut up snd get a grip.

Yes it was a very sensible approach; she first appealed to karma, then a previous life experience, then a repressed childhood experience. Those are definitely the three most likely explanations.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well a childhood momery like getting rammed by Tyrone The Crossingguard would traumatise you, but no need to sugarcoat it, she's racist.

There may be reason for her racism(like @Scouse said) and i too think there's some lingering xenophobia from tribe eras in some peoples heads, exclusion when younger from other races/cultures etc that would make someone more likely to be racist.

But...it's still racism. Unless you've known nothing outside your own race for your whole life(i feel that could be an excuse), these days, not cool.

Disclaimer; loaded post, i reserve the right to explain if someone misunderstands what i said

 

[Raven]

Or maybe she is just a psychological throwback?

 

[Scouse]

Or maybe she is just a psychological throwback?

Well, she's clearly an idiot. But then, UKIP does have more than its fair share of idiots.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Or maybe she is just a psychological throwback?

That too. Reasons are many, excuses few

 

[Job]

The previous life comment was just a throwaway muse, she was just trying to understand why she feels uncomfortable around black people, but just like you can't say.bomb in an airport, to even consider the reasons is to be a thick racist bigot...which of course is the very definition of attacking free speech, even negro is now deemed unacceptable.
How utterly fukin hypocritical is it for us to demand our right to draw pictures of Mohammed and offend muslims, but I'm not allowed to say nigger in case it offends black people.

 

[Scouse]

How utterly fukin hypocritical is it for us to demand our right to draw pictures of Mohammed and offend muslims, but I'm not allowed to say nigger in case it offends black people

All forms of speech should be free - but if you're a racist politician you clearly make yourself unsuitable for public office and a target of ridicule.

If you use racist language in everyday life, which you should be able to do without fear of legal censure, you demonstrate that you're a bit of a cunt and people, rightly, should be free to call you so.

 

[mooSe_]

The previous life comment was just a throwaway muse, she was just trying to understand why she feels uncomfortable around black people, but just like you can't say.bomb in an airport, to even consider the reasons is to be a thick racist bigot...which of course is the very definition of attacking free speech, even negro is now deemed unacceptable.
How utterly fukin hypocritical is it for us to demand our right to draw pictures of Mohammed and offend muslims, but I'm not allowed to say nigger in case it offends black people.

Her freedom of speech wasn't attacked or denied. No one prevented her from saying what she wanted to say, and she's completely free to say some similar bullshit in the future. No one threatened to go round and shoot her. Disagreeing with someone isn't preventing their freedom of speech.

 

[Overdriven]

The cat had a retard moment..

 

[Job]

She isn't racist...racism is the belief that other groups that we call races by their slight physical differences are inferior to you and don't deserve the same rights...at.no point whatsoever did she say that, she simply said that she found black people unnerving and of course honesty is the LAST thing you need in politics.

 

[Moriath]

She isn't racist...racism is the belief that other groups that we call races by their slight physical differences are inferior to you and don't deserve the same rights...at.no point whatsoever did she say that, she simply said that she found black people unnerving and of course honesty is the LAST thing you need in politics.

It would be fine for a black person to say they found White people unnerving. But not the other way round.

 

[Moriath]

Her freedom of speech wasn't attacked or denied. No one prevented her from saying what she wanted to say, and she's completely free to say some similar bullshit in the future. No one threatened to go round and shoot her. Disagreeing with someone isn't preventing their freedom of speech.

It was gwadiens incredulity at the article and the fact that anyone could think like that. That was the problem. Not accepting that's how she felt or she has a right to feel like that. But the omg wtf ness of it.

If she feels like that and is honest and says she does she should be helped just like any other person who has a phobia or mental block.

 

[old.Tohtori]

It would be fine for a black person to say they found White people unnerving. But not the other way round.

Same thing imo.

 

[Scouse]

She isn't racist...

I was going to argue with you based on the dictionary definition of racist - but the dictionary definition does define racism as believing the other person is inferior in some way - so technically you're correct.

However, she did say she wouldn't turn up to a dinner if invited by a friend if she knew a black person was going. That's an action taken purely on someone's race.

So - whilst she isn't technically racist she'd definitely a prejudiced bigot.

 

[Job]

All forms of speech should be free - but if you're a racist politician you clearly make yourself unsuitable for public office and a target of ridicule.

If you use racist language in everyday life, which you should be able to do without fear of legal censure, you demonstrate that you're a bit of a cunt and people, rightly, should be free to call you so.

Using the N word will get you sacked and can very easily, almost certainly get you arrested in public for racial harrasment.
The word itself is not illegal but you are a first rate twat (and probably arrested) for using it to put down a black person.
But now racists are people who don't like non whites.
It's xenophobia and the clear divide between the two must be emphasised in a world with so much immigration pressure.

 

[Scouse]

Using the N word will get you sacked and can very easily, almost certainly get you arrested in public for racial harrasment.

Nobody is denying that Job. It's quite evident that a number of people on here believe in a freedom of speech that we don't have.

At the same time - you do yourself no favours by not calling this woman a cunt - which she is...

 

[Job]

A cunt maybe, but we should never underestimate the number of people who have the same feelings deep in their psyche and there it festers until a series of events let's it burst out with.nasty consequences.

 

[Gwadien]

She's racist, there's no denying it, and we, as a society have decided that there's no room for racism.

UKIP got rid of her because they want to remove that label, but as their program of removals go on and on, it seems they're removing the majority whilst keeping the minority.

Which shows that they're most likely a party with racist tendencies but suppress them to get into power.

 

[Scouse]

She's racist, there's no denying it

Actually - Job was right. There's no evidence that she is.

 

[Gwadien]

Actually - Job was right. There's no evidence that she is.

No, by saying 'I don't like negros and I don't know why' is clearly racist.

Saying you don't like someone because of their skin colour before even meeting them is racist.

 

[Scouse]

No, by saying 'I don't like negros and I don't know why' is clearly racist.

Saying you don't like someone because of their skin colour before even meeting them is racist.

Look up the definition of racist. It's prejudiced and bigoted, but not racist.

I thought like you did. Then I looked up the definition. I was wrong.

 

[Moriath]

No, by saying 'I don't like negros and I don't know why' is clearly racist.

Saying you don't like someone because of their skin colour before even meeting them is racist.

Not true. I could just not like Indians because I dislike the food they eat. That's not racist. That's just a fact.

I don't its just an example. I wouldn't think they were any less than me. Or any less capable of doing anything. I just don't like them. It's not racist. There could be something in the past that has me distrust them. I got bullied at school or beaten up etc. like if you get bitten by a dog and your not comfortable around dogs. Or policemen or something. Just because it happens to be a distinction based on colour doesn't mean it's racist.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Would need to know why she finds black people unnerving. Afraid of getting harmed, or that they'll do "something"? That would imply that she thinks they're more prone to violence, or less civil in any case, which would put her in a racist state of mind as she believes she's more civil(in other words "better"). Right?

If it's just a case of "I dunno, i just don't like them" then it's technically as clarified.

 

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[old.Osy]

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[Scouse]

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