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[Moriath]

They're like 15, some may be 16.

But still, no, too young.

I walked down stairs, asked my brother where a phone charger was and a girl started laughing going 'hehe, your brother is so funny!'

I looked at my brother like 'oh dear' and walked away.

16 is fair game.

 

[Moriath]

Do you take everything literally?

I have aspergers for like the twentieth time in this forum. It means I can't read between the lines and tend to take what you say at face value. I don't see anything in your previous post to indicate you are not serious. A usually gives me a clue but if you just type it the way my brain is wired doesn't make those connections.

Sorry if it offends you.

 

[caLLous]

It's OK @Moriath he would only ever call her a bint and insult her weight to his chums on the internet, never to her face.

 

[Job]

So in this latest health advice turnaround is this gem
“Repeated studies have now shown that dietary cholesterol does not increase cholesterol levels in the blood,”
NEW studies? studies have always shown no link, just like salt /bp..no link whatsoever.

 

[caLLous]

Lunacy...

 

[fettoken]

Lunacy...

Wait...what

 

[old.Tohtori]

NEW studies?

You misunderstand what "they" mean by study;

"What crap do we need to sell this month?"
"Salt sales are low"
"Oh, spread the message that a new study says salt is good for you."
"Also release books on how to cook with salt."

 

[Moriath]

You misunderstand what "they" mean by study;

"What crap do we need to sell this month?"
"Salt sales are low"
"Oh, spread the message that a new study says salt is good for you."
"Also release books on how to cook with salt."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/the-cholesterol-myth-that_b_676817.html

 

[Scouse]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-mercola/the-cholesterol-myth-that_b_676817.html

Joseph M. Mercola is an alternative medicine proponent, osteopathic physician, and web entrepreneur, who markets a variety of controversial dietary supplements and medical devices through his website, mercola.com.

I.E. The author of that article is a profiteering quack.

Mercola has questioned whether HIV is the cause of AIDS.

He says that the manifestations of AIDS (including opportunistic infections and death) may be the result of "psychological stress" brought on by the belief that HIV is harmful.

He's also against vaccinations. Y'know - those things that are single-handedly responsible for almost halting death from a myriad of diseases that used to devestate human populations worldwide.

It does stagger me that people really don't check their sources of information in this day and age.

The fact is @Moriath - you're fat and you want to believe that this "health shit" is just that - so you're searching for stuff that fits your desired world view - a world view that means you can continue to do nothing about it and not feel guilty...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Just want to clarify that i'm not disputing scientific findings by legit science folk(like that smoking is bad for you, or that eating cakes all day erry day isn't healthy), just the "studies"

 

[Job]

Yup a quack, but the ongoing arguments to and fro about statins has even included a founder of the drugs who has just said that they should be retested.

 

[Moriath]

I.E. The author of that article is a profiteering quack.



He's also against vaccinations. Y'know - those things that are single-handedly responsible for almost halting death from a myriad of diseases that used to devestate human populations worldwide.

It does stagger me that people really don't check their sources of information in this day and age.

The fact is @Moriath - you're fat and you want to believe that this "health shit" is just that - so you're searching for stuff that fits your desired world view - a world view that means you can continue to do nothing about it and not feel guilty...

Nope I am over weight. I don't want to believe anything. I just saw some programs on tv by Michael Mosley that suggested that things on colesterol were not as straight forward as the popular belief may have you think.

http://www.independent.ie/life/heal...s-not-as-unhealthy-as-you-think-30468627.html

There are two sides to all stories

 

[Scouse]

I just saw some programs on tv by Michael Mosley that suggested that things on colesterol were not as straight forward as the popular belief may have you think.

Well, of course - that's the natural course of scientific advancement. Things that were once held to be as it is become modified over time.

However, the wrong course of action is to go "well, they used to say this and now they say this - so it's all bullshit and I'll stop listening - they don't really know what they're talking about".

They do know what they're talking about and they're getting better all the time. The correct course of action is to keep listening - and to try to act on the most up to date consensus - because the science isn't asking us to make any major changes in our lives - just small ones that are likely to benefit us in some way.

Recently, however, I've changed my mind

Quite right. That's the whole point of science and it's greatest strength.

 

[Moriath]

Well, of course - that's the natural course of scientific advancement. Things that were once held to be as it is become modified over time.

However, the wrong course of action is to go "well, they used to say this and now they say this - so it's all bullshit and I'll stop listening - they don't really know what they're talking about".

They do know what they're talking about and they're getting better all the time. The correct course of action is to keep listening - and to try to act on the most up to date consensus - because the science isn't asking us to make any major changes in our lives - just small ones that are likely to benefit us in some way.




Quite right. That's the whole point of science and it's greatest strength.

Yes but everyone you talk to says that do x it's the truth. Cause everyone knows it is. Which is kinda where seel was going.

 

[Job]

The problem is the constant undermining of the scientific process by vested interests, sometimes by the scientists themselves, billion dollar investments by drug companies are bound even with the best intentions to bend interpretations of results to back a more profitable outcome and every food marketing department on the planet is trying to use the 'healthy' angle to very successfully increase sales, gluten free alone boosts sales by up to 50% on frickin anything...things that don't even have gluten normally.

 

[Nate]

Amazon's down WTF

 

[Moriath]

The problem is the constant undermining of the scientific process by vested interests, sometimes by the scientists themselves, billion dollar investments by drug companies are bound even with the best intentions to bend interpretations of results to back a more profitable outcome and every food marketing department on the planet is trying to use the 'healthy' angle to very successfully increase sales, gluten free alone boosts sales by up to 50% on frickin anything...things that don't even have gluten normally.

And what they don't tell you is if you take the gluten out you have to replace it with something usually fats and sugars. And most people don't need gluten free stuff anyway.

The manufacturers just shift the focus. Fat free but full of sugar etc etc. anything to get a buck.

 

[Moriath]

Amazon's down WTF

Perhaps it's giles Coren who's having a fit about paying for prime after forgetting to cancel his trial. Hehe. On Twitter btw.

 

[Scouse]

And what they don't tell you is if you take the gluten out you have to replace it with something usually fats and sugars. And most people don't need gluten free stuff anyway.

My niece is coeliac. She reacts horribly to even the smallest amounts of gluten. It makes her *really* ill.

The massive expansion of gluten-free foods on the market enable her to eat a wider, more varied and interesting diet. And the fat-and-sugar compensation is easily burned off by her massive amounts of exercise - that she she enjoys a lot when she's not ill from eating gluten.


Edit: There's a fuckload of coeliacs about - perhaps the 50% rise in sales of those end-of-supermarket-aisle foodstuffs is down to the fact that there's a market demand for them. From normal people who are gluten intolerant - not hippy health-heads...

 

[Billargh]

Debatably NSFW: http://imgur.com/gallery/tIzizRL

 

[Moriath]

My niece is coeliac. She reacts horribly to even the smallest amounts of gluten. It makes her *really* ill.

The massive expansion of gluten-free foods on the market enable her to eat a wider, more varied and interesting diet. And the fat-and-sugar compensation is easily burned off by her massive amounts of exercise - that she she enjoys a lot when she's not ill from eating gluten.


Edit: There's a fuckload of coeliacs about - perhaps the 50% rise in sales of those end-of-supermarket-aisle foodstuffs is down to the fact that there's a market demand for them. From normal people who are gluten intolerant - not hippy health-heads...

I'm not saying it's bad for coeliacs. I'm saying there is a fad to think that gluten free is better for you in the general healthy population that don't require gluten free foods. Where if you are healthy and not sensitive to it thence gluten free product is worse for you than one that has the gluten.

And it's far less than 50% of people who are sensitive to gluten so my statement about most not needing it is still true even if it's not rare

 

[Scouse]

I'm saying there is a fad to think that gluten free is better for you in the general healthy population that don't require gluten free foods.

I was simply commenting on the fact that there was a thread developing that seemed it could be implying that sales of gluten free were out of proportion - and wanted to show that it isn't. Started by Job saying:

gluten free alone boosts sales by up to 50% on frickin anything...things that don't even have gluten normally.

There's been a campaign to raise awareness for coeliac disease because it's very common. You're always going to have a small core of retards that get it wrong / are twisted into it by some internet retard who can make a bit of dosh out of it.

However - I think the fad is vastly overstated. I think the vast majority of people understand that they don't need to eat gluten free.

 

[Moriath]

I was simply commenting on the fact that there was a thread developing that seemed it could be implying that gluten free was a waste of time - and wanted to show that it isn't. Started by Job saying:



There's been a campaign to raise awareness for coeliac disease because it's very common. You're always going to have a small core of retards that get it wrong / are twisted into it by some internet retard who can make a bit of dosh out of it.

However - I think the fad is vastly overstated. I think the vast majority of people understand that they don't need to eat gluten free.

So why face palm me if you know I am not saying gluten free is bad for everyone. Which I wasnt.

 

[Scouse]

So why face palm me if you know I am not saying gluten free is bad for everyone. Which I wasnt.

It's late, I'm tired, I'm drunk and I spunk out smileys/facepalms/likes and dislikes like a horney monkey?

 

[Moriath]

http://www.webmd.com/diet/truth-about-gluten

1% of Americans might have coeliac disease. But many think that a gluten free diet is a healthier option. This is because the gluten products are marketed like fat free and sugar free.

 

[Moriath]

It's late, I'm tired, I'm drunk and I spunk out smileys/facepalms/likes and dislikes like a horney monkey?

Give me some of what your drinking. I'm dry tonight and my back is hurting. Lol

 

[Scouse]

Currently it's a tawny port - well, not port because it's not from portugal - it's australian, so they have to call it a "dessert wine". That's on top of a bottle of Rioja I picked up at majestic last week. Which is sitting on top of a bottle of Dark Side of the Moose - from one of my favourite breweries - it's just won a Gold in the Camra 2015 winter beer festival (which I went to in Derby last wednesday).

In fact, I've not come across a Purple Moose beer I don't like tbh. Glasyln is great as is the elderflower one

 

[Moriath]

No work tomorrow then?

 

[Scouse]

No work tomorrow then?

Work from home tomorrow. Logon at 9. No hour long trip up the motorway

 

[Moriath]

Work from home tomorrow. Logon at 9. No hour long trip up the motorway

Me too.