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So a nice easy drive in to town to start the Christmas shopping, thought I would start early this year so as to miss the rush....

Later's suckers
 

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Yeah sort of, same type of character I guess.
Though it did take unlikely to all new levels and started a new trend that I'm sure will develop of not even bothering to show the carnage on the way to the boss..just imply it happened.
Next Segal film will just be a kid getting kidnapped then Segal blows up a Russian mob boss with a tank missile...roll credits
 

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@Olgaline mate, do you know of a good port wine for cooking? Particularly to go with steaks, sauses based on mushrooms and that stuff. Also, do you have any recommendations on wine to go with pasta and fish/shellfish. For example, a tomatosauce with garlic, chilli and giant shrimps.
 

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@Olgaline mate, do you know of a good port wine for cooking? Particularly to go with steaks, sauses based on mushrooms and that stuff.

Kinda depends on the style of sauce you want to achive, but stick to simple Ruby or Tawny, no need to spend a fortune

- Tawny, Maderia, Banyuls and Sweet Sherries are more oxidised giving you notes of dried fruits, nutts, (Lighter, more tangy style)
- Ruby will give more fresh fruit, black pepper, and spice (darker and more fresh, fruity style)

Also, do you have any recommendations on wine to go with pasta and fish/shellfish. For example, a tomatosauce with garlic, chilli and giant shrimps.

As in a Pasta with fish, tomato etc, or as in one for the pasta and one for the fish? Red or White?
 

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@Olgaline tomatosauce with garlic, chilli and giant shrimps.

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Sat by myself in an old mans pub right in the middle of all the trendy bars cos I came out two hours before my mates..actually feeling what it must be like to be lonely.
 

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Sat by myself in an old mans pub right in the middle of all the trendy bars cos I came out two hours before my mates..actually feeling what it must be like to be lonely.
Nah the lonely have hope.
 

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Kinda depends on the style of sauce you want to achive, but stick to simple Ruby or Tawny, no need to spend a fortune

- Tawny, Maderia, Banyuls and Sweet Sherries are more oxidised giving you notes of dried fruits, nutts, (Lighter, more tangy style)
- Ruby will give more fresh fruit, black pepper, and spice (darker and more fresh, fruity style)



As in a Pasta with fish, tomato etc, or as in one ofr the pasta and one for the fish? Red or White?
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Both red and white wine - the Ruby one seems great for the purpouse i was looking for. Saw you mentioned two wines down below as well. Thanks a bunch and merry Christmas! :clap::drink:
 

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Both red and white wine - the Ruby one seems great for the purpouse i was looking for. Saw you mentioned two wines down below as well. Thanks a bunch and merry Christmas! :clap::drink:

Any time,
As for the white for shrimps, as long as you stick to a wine with at least some sweetness, acidity and spice you'll be fine, as for reds with pasta? Soft & fruity,
not too many tannins or too much spice. when in doubt go local, local wine with local food is always a good rule of thumb.

As for the two posted wines, they'ed do just fine, a wee bit pricy though ;)
 

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I always find wine with alcohol in it usually hits the mark. As long as it's capable of giving the desired effect :)
 

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I As long as it's capable of giving the desired effect :)

Why even bother with wine then?
This will get the job done much more eficiently:
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The right kind of wine paired with the right food, improves both the food and the wine, and thus
also the entirety of the dining experience.
 

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Why even bother with wine then?
This will get the job done much more eficiently:
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The right kind of wine paired with the right food, improves both the food and the wine, and thus
also the entirety of the dining experience.
In your opinion :) but not everyone agrees. There are certain wines I think taste better than others but none worth more than ten twelve quid of my money when I can get a bottle of vodka for fifteen quid.
 

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old.Tohtori

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Nope. If I don't like the taste of the wine with the food then it doesn't improve it for me. Get it?

Don't get into it too much, it's once again one of those "you said opinion, not taste" that people don't correct, but instead argue about.

Olga is right that a food/wine pairing can enhance the experience, but not liking something will trump that rule.

You two are basically "arguing" two different things, over a technicality/nitpick ;)
 

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Don't get into it too much, it's once again one of those "you said opinion, not taste" that people don't correct, but instead argue about.

Olga is right that a food/wine pairing can enhance the experience, but not liking something will trump that rule.

You two are basically "arguing" two different things, over a technicality/nitpick ;)


I'm not arguing ;)
I'm trying to make him understand the difference between preference and science

Lets try this:

Dish with a lot of lemon (acidity) will change the structure of the wine you are drinking, here a wine with low acidity will taste bland/dead. thus you need a wine with higher acidity to balance out the acidity in the dish. Now admittedly I'll accept that there might be a select few out there with a love for bland and tasteless wines.

However, preference does not change nor does it dictate the mechanics of food and wine paering, chemestry does. Thus saying/arguing that it's a question of opinion/preference is very much incorrect.

So to recap I'm not disagreeing with him, I'm trying to show him the difference ;)
 
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I'm sorry but i do have to take the high horse away. Saying "Yes!" "No!" and asking "Get it?" and then posting a mocking video, isn't really showing someone anything. (i know it's the FH way, but it also leaves little room for Mister Ed) What you posted now is an explanation, one that someone could understand your point from(even if you two still are talking two different things), but before it was very much an argument where two guys are yelling at eachothers brick walls.

If you want to teach someone, or get you point across, first establish a common ground, then explain don't yell.

It's kinda like parents who punish their kids and then claim it's "teaching them". That's not how it works ;)
 

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Well it is a fact that with a developed pallet wine will affect how you taste food and vice versa. Obviously it makes no difference if you live off ready meals and tesco house white.
 

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