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Lethul

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Amateurs, I got 25 on my first go and 30 on my second.

Huzzah

26 on first 35 on second.
I seem to have most problems with really LIGHT blues and LIGHT greens.

My results seem to direclty relate to how many of those I get :)

It goes better if I sit quite far from the monitor and dont look direclty at individual squares
 

Scouse

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If he's innocent, and we haven't charged him for anything, why can't he come back? :S

Because you're guilty, even if you've been proven innocent.



If our facist overlords say so then it becomes truth by dictum.
 

Gwadien

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Because you're guilty, even if you've been proven innocent.



If our facist overlords say so then it becomes truth by dictum.

That's ridiculous.

We should be fighting to get him back into the country, purely for our 'freedom of speech' principles.

Next, they'll be like Oh yeah, you're innocent, but we don't like you as a nation, so we're going to keep you in prison, looloollololooloololol
 

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Moriath

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If he's innocent, and we haven't charged him for anything, why can't he come back? :S
No one has the right to come and stay here If they are forging nationals. UK don't need a reason to stop you coming here. As long as your outside the eu.

It's like the USA can stop anyone going there without citing any reason. And why would we want a hate preaching, Islam jihad supporting religious zealot if we didn't have to?
 

Moriath

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So all those years he spent in UK at tax payers expense were for nothing. He stayed based on the fact that his life was threatened by a brutal regime and he would not get a fair trial. LOL and the jokes on the UK for allowing him to stay in the first place.
That was the only reason he wasn't exported before. Cause he wouldn't get a fair trial Based on torture evidence. He was breaking all sorts of laws with his preaching and recruiting.
 

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SHe stayed based on the fact that his life was threatened by a brutal regime and he would not get a fair trial. LOL and the jokes on the UK for allowing him to stay in the first place.

Hardly. Our courts and the ECHR said we couldn't deport him because he'd face a brutal regime. The government had to negotiate with Jordan to ban evidenced gained through torture.

Once that treaty was signed he gave up his resistance to go home - and went to Jordan, faced trial and was acquitted.

Our government acted like a cunt and the law won despite two governments trying to subvert it.
 

Gwadien

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The guy's a dick, but it doesn't mean that we should treat him any differently to anyone else.

Hell, I think we should deport British-Israelis to Gaza for crimes against humanity, even if they're found innocent, we should leave them there to let the locals have their way.

The fact is, we allowed the guy in our country -years- ago, when he was a student, he's pretty much British, he's our problem, and I'd rather see him stay alive in the UK as an innocent man, still hate preaching, rather than being in a hostile country that will lynch him, even though the courts found him innocent.
 

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If you see the pictures of him being freed. Everyone was loving it. I don't think the general populous will lynch him. It was the government and a fair trial he was afraid of.
 

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yeah but "do as we say, not as we do" and all that.
 

Gwadien

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If you see the pictures of him being freed. Everyone was loving it. I don't think the general populous will lynch him. It was the government and a fair trial he was afraid of.
Yeah, but he's still a threat to any civilised Government, because he speaks his mind, right or wrong.

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

I don't think people realise the fact that it's not about him being a Terrorist which is completely unacceptable, it's the fact that they'll just do what ever they can to side the people of a nation against people, so they're shunned out of societies, and Governments can do what ever the fuck they like to them, only history teaches us that perhaps these people had a point, and we should learn from history, and not allow any Governing body to control people in the way they do, we may blindly follow Governments and stop future Ghandis, Mandelas and MLKs.
 

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It's what's always happened. There had been preachers from the USA that have been refused visas. Even Oswald Mosley was interned for three years as a threat to the nation spreading his facist message and that was in ww2.

If you don't have to have a hate preacher to deal with why would you? I can see a freedom of speech argument. But allowing me to give my view is different from consistently trying to radicalise people to cause harm to others. And is in fact against the law I believe.

Some of these people are why there are 500 odd UK citizens fighting for IS in Syria.
 

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It's what's always happened. There had been preachers from the USA that have been refused visas. Even Oswald Mosley was interned for three years as a threat to the nation spreading his facist message and that was in ww2.

If you don't have to have a hate preacher to deal with why would you? I can see a freedom of speech argument. But allowing me to give my view is different from consistently trying to radicalise people to cause harm to others. And is in fact against the law I believe.

Some of these people are why there are 500 odd UK citizens fighting for IS in Syria.

You really think if we restrict freedom of speech, it'll stop people becoming radicalised? If anything, it'll increase the amount of radicals, freedom of speech also allows secret services to infiltrate the extremist groups, because they're so open, so wether you're on the side of a totalitarian state or an anarchist state, freedom of speech really does benefit both.

What if I started going out and telling people that I want greater freedoms from London, and the Police came out and arrested me for it? - Because that is the reality that we're heading to, people are so happy to blindly follow the authority to say yeah, I agree, they're a threat to my way of life, so therefore, we should silence them by any means possible.

You can't become totalitarian state over night, it takes years of getting people content and happy to see people who speak their mind to be arrested.
 

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You really think if we restrict freedom of speech, it'll stop people becoming radicalised? If anything, it'll increase the amount of radicals, freedom of speech also allows secret services to infiltrate the extremist groups, because they're so open, so wether you're on the side of a totalitarian state or an anarchist state, freedom of speech really does benefit both.

What if I started going out and telling people that I want greater freedoms from London, and the Police came out and arrested me for it? - Because that is the reality that we're heading to, people are so happy to blindly follow the authority to say yeah, I agree, they're a threat to my way of life, so therefore, we should silence them by any means possible.

You can't become totalitarian state over night, it takes years of getting people content and happy to see people who speak their mind to be arrested.
I can't wait to see Alex salmond arrested hehe

But what ever. If you think like that why can't I go round being racist or homophobic preaching.

There's no such thing as freedom of speech. There is only what is tolerated by the authorities. Which is usually a reflection of the public acceptability. Not individual but society as a whole.

What we are discussing is not freedom of speech but that you think the limits of speech should be drawn at a different point to me.
 

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