The Muamba tweets

BloodOmen

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Ah fuck me, someone just called me a bastard on facebook! I think its time I get him extradited and shot in the face.
 

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that depends, was your dad married to your mother when you were concieved? It could be cold hard fact........ like for instance tell evra he's black in spanish..... oh wait what?
 

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The law cannot assume that. It's not real evidence. You'd be crying foul if we were talking about file-sharing and ip addresses.

That's beside the point though. If this guy wasn't talking about a popular footballer who was in the news but instead about some poor kid on a council estate noone would have done anything.
How do they prosecute for stuff like child porn then, yeah its my pc my internet my house but it could be any of my mates!

I do see what your saying, the car thing was a bit stupid but ok. However they do prosecute people for computer crimes and i doubt all those times they had a camera watching the guy the whole time.

As for if its only happening because he is famous who knows but the fact he is famous means there would be a lot more people who could report him.
 

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hats off to the medics and the doc who worked his heart for two hours, you know they'd have pulled the plug on an ordinary joe after twenty minutes.
and yes i'm defending his right to be a cock without getting the spanish inquistion at the door.
 

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I think if it's constant from the same IP and stored on the harddrive you're gonna have a hard job denying it, but a one off think (otr muliple within a small time frame) you have plausable deniability
 

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hats off too the medics and the doc who worked his heart for two hours, you know they'd have pulled the plug on an ordinary joe after twenty minutes.
i dont think that's true, it would be a case of they were getting response enough to warrent keep trying, he wasn't dead for two hours cos you don't come back from that, he may of died multiple times but they would keep resusing on anyone in that situation
 

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How do they prosecute for stuff like child porn then, yeah its my pc my internet my house but it could be any of my mates!
I'm not an expert but iirc they impound your pc and check it for porn and monitor your activity for quite a while in the hope of proving that you were the only one in the house when the downloading was happening.

Having said that there's a big stink about what happened in Operation Ore and some might turn out to be innocent.
 

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Yeah my bad I was being a bit over simplistic.
 

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well his heart wouldn't start by itself for two hours, they would give up on you or I because we wouldn't have the worlds press waiting for the outcome.
You don't 'die' till brain death occurs, two hours of defibrilation and massage is epic, mr average wouldn't get it.
 

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Did you drink too much bleach as a child or something?
 

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Sometimes I think it's a very bad troll character.

Sadly it isn't. :(
 

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how much is too much?
Ii'm telling you know, if you drop down dead with a cardiac arrest tomorrow and after 90 mins your heart still won't start, they'll pull the sheet over your head and start harvesting your organs.
 

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Your average guy would of been dead on the scene he went down in one of the few places he could get help fast enough to keep him alive. Most people would probably be brain dead before an ambulance got there.
 

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only trouble with racist lawas is it only works one way from what i see..

calling someone black a bad name gets you locked up

calling someone white and english a bad name doesnt

whats the difference ?
 

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Actually, racism is a crime.

and yes, if he posts his vile bullshit in the public domain then he deserves everything that is coming to him.

Freedom of speech.

You can abhor what he says, but stand up for his right to be a giant dick.

The fact that racism is a crime is really really bad. Worse than racism IMO...
 

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Freedom of speech.

You can abhor what he says, but stand up for his right to be a giant dick.

The fact that racism is a crime is really really bad. Worse than racism IMO...

That's a slippery slope. Freedom of speech ends exactly at the point where it infringes on other peoples' right
to be treated as a human being.

You can be liberal... and I always thought of myself as moderately liberal - or you can be Scouse
and it's anarchy. But you also think Kony might be a freedom fighter. lolthat.
 

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Makes me laugh when British people go ape over racist comments yet happily ate Irish corn during the famine and the general concensus was that it was a plague from god to teach the Irish to be civilised and more self reliant :p
 

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Just how many years are you going back .. We are talking about today not 150 gyears ago

Which proves my point Pom honkey Taff mick paddy frog wop

All of those not seen as jail material

Positive racism is as bad as racism .. Same rules for all or no rules tbh
 

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Surely the chronilogical order is offset by the numbers in question ? Tomorrow today will be yesterday... Think about it !

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I see your Irish potato famine and raise you the holocaust. .... Your point ?
 

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My point is arresting someone over something on the internet is stupid, my point is above if you cared to try and find the context in which it was presented
 

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Makes me laugh when British people go ape over racist comments yet happily ate Irish corn during the famine and the general concensus was that it was a plague from god to teach the Irish to be civilised and more self reliant :p

Oh for crying out loud. If nothing else it gave you a whole industry in maudlin song-writing. And once again, read a history book that wasn't written by an Irishman with a grudge. Public opinion in the UK was firmly to help Ireland. The British establishment had different ideas though... (and you're not even on the famine league table compared to what they did to India). Irish self-pity can get a bit wearing after a while; read Hard Times to get a picture of the kind of thing happening to the English working class at around the same time, and you'll have an understanding of how cheap life was then if you were poor, no matter where you were from.

Back on topic. I'm really uncomfortable with the whole concept of arresting someone just for being a prick. He's only been arrested because it was a tirade in relation to the Muamba story; which hardly shows justice is blind does it? If he'd tweeted a generalised racist attack, it wouldn't have been picked up or at best quietly deleted by Twitter as CoC violation, and the law certainly wouldn't have got involved.
 

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Makes me laugh when British people go ape over racist comments yet happily ate Irish corn during the famine and the general concensus was that it was a plague from god to teach the Irish to be civilised and more self reliant :p

I didn't eat any corn during the famine, were you hungry yourself?
 

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Back on topic. I'm really uncomfortable with the whole concept of arresting someone just for being a prick. He's only been arrested because it was a tirade in relation to the Muamba story; which hardly shows justice is blind does it? If he'd tweeted a generalised racist attack, it wouldn't have been picked up or at best quietly deleted by Twitter as CoC violation, and the law certainly wouldn't have got involved.
That is where this guy is a tool though. If Fab has 200k twitter followers by tagging him (I assume he did?) he gives himself 200k chances to be reported for racist remarks. If he had just said it without tagging him only his friends would of seen and they would of put it down to him being a knob and not reported it. Forgetting the possibility of them proving it, if a crime has been reported the police have to investigate it.
 

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