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If you don't believe in Hell you can't go there.
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Arnor
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hehe, and you know that what you believe matters how?
Who knows if it works like "you go to hell if hell believes in you?"
"No satan, stop poking me, i dont believe in you!"
for all we know it can be like not believing bullets can harm you *shrug*
I also wanna point out that this must be the biggest "head in the sand" argument i've seen in a while
Im not saying I believe in hell or not, but I really doubt putting your fingers in your ears and closing your eyes is gonna do a lick of difference
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Aoami
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Maybe so.
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Kagato.
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What page is that on? I'd like to read that bit
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Kagato.
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But seriously though, most people I know who worship some form of god (does he really deserve a capital G ?) just follow what I think of as a 'pick-a-mix' religion.
They want to believe in something so they keep looking for some sort of religion that suites there lifestyle and say 'ooh I believe in that one !'.
But how is that true belief in there god?
They want to have sex before marraige, but religion A does not allow it, so they look for religion B, but or no, They don't allow you to have abortions, so lets try C, but wait, they wont let you eat brussel sprouts, it must be D for me then.
Seriously, this is what its like with some people I know, theres so many different churchs and if the one they are at does not suite them they go to another and *think* they are being a good follower and preach it to everyone else. But its just pick-a-mix religions finding the one to suite your lifestyle, not what you truely believe.
Personally i'll just try and live my life as best I can and try to be a decent person, if thats not good enough for whatever God their may be then he should of came and shown me the way he wanted me to live instead.
They want to believe in something so they keep looking for some sort of religion that suites there lifestyle and say 'ooh I believe in that one !'.
But how is that true belief in there god?
They want to have sex before marraige, but religion A does not allow it, so they look for religion B, but or no, They don't allow you to have abortions, so lets try C, but wait, they wont let you eat brussel sprouts, it must be D for me then.
Seriously, this is what its like with some people I know, theres so many different churchs and if the one they are at does not suite them they go to another and *think* they are being a good follower and preach it to everyone else. But its just pick-a-mix religions finding the one to suite your lifestyle, not what you truely believe.
Personally i'll just try and live my life as best I can and try to be a decent person, if thats not good enough for whatever God their may be then he should of came and shown me the way he wanted me to live instead.
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i believe in God.
but i think if God is that forgiving he wouldn't get pissed off at the people who don't go to church etc, and i also fail to understand why he allows so much suffering. even to his own followers. I understand its a question of those who have faith will benefit in the end. but i dont see why it needs to be that way if he is all forgiving, like his true church followers claim.
If he is all forgiving .. then surely the people who didn't believe in the start, will go to heaven anyway! and if he isn't all forgiving .. then he isn't perfect, and doesn't deserve the name God
but i think if God is that forgiving he wouldn't get pissed off at the people who don't go to church etc, and i also fail to understand why he allows so much suffering. even to his own followers. I understand its a question of those who have faith will benefit in the end. but i dont see why it needs to be that way if he is all forgiving, like his true church followers claim.
If he is all forgiving .. then surely the people who didn't believe in the start, will go to heaven anyway! and if he isn't all forgiving .. then he isn't perfect, and doesn't deserve the name God
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Take the story of Noah for instance. Peopel did something he didn't like, so he just went and pwned them all (except Noah ofc). Does this show forgiveness? I think not!
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Good little fishing boat that.
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Agreed, which is the reason im a believer. But not exactly sure what makes him a god. Apart from the fact he has superman powers to make the earth, and when he doesn't like things people do. He has they killed like Phil Mitchell, and some people who are god fearing, and pray and shit every day, go through life with nothing but bad luck, and some people are evil ****s who think of no 1 but themselves and walk away with the great life and the hot leggy blonde girl from Sweden, all because they didn't put their lives in Gods hands
so much to think about. Im still a believer, but will I fail my trial and not get into heaven just for thinking these things???Do these people who cheat and steal and look out for no 1 but themselves get into heaven in the end? Is the God some of us worship no better then the story of Zeus and the other petty Gods you see in the old Greek stories?
So much to think about! When knowing 1 day you’ll die, and being a believer but at the same time cynical
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thats old testament though and the god in the old testament and the one in the new one are slightly different
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old.Dillinja
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Nothing happens when you die. It is exactly the same as before you were born. Nothingness.
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Arnor
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just because you were locked in the cellar before you were born dont mean we others didnt have one hell of a party
how can you know theres nothing before you were born, you remember anything from when you were 0-4years? Who knows if you werent told all the truths in the universe oO
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I can't remember anything from when I was 1-10 years old hardly
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Oh and more importantly, Ding! Forum Diety
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Arnor
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Originally posted by Kagato.
I can't remember anything from when I was 1-20 years old hardly
I told you sniffing glue was bad for you
also, grats \o/
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what so the first god stoped existing and a new one came along? in other words the whole thing is fucking bollocks.Originally posted by Driwen
thats old testament though and the god in the old testament and the one in the new one are slightly different
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Oooooooor he couldve changed, stop being a retard if you can please.
The problem with you/random is that you are actively trying to disprove the bible subjectively, you "know" that you are right and whats left is to show that to everyone.
Try approaching it with an open objective mind, then we might see something else then brain-poop dribbling out of the ambigiously gay duo.
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Re: Re: Re: The God thang.
Howdy Blith
Jesus did mension homosexuality in the bible - which is why their is so much Contoversy about the Homosexual Bishop being Introduced into the church.
1 Corinthinans 6 verse 9 : Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
I am an Episcopalian Dont really know what that means
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Howdy Blith
Jesus did mension homosexuality in the bible - which is why their is so much Contoversy about the Homosexual Bishop being Introduced into the church.
1 Corinthinans 6 verse 9 : Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
I am an Episcopalian
Dont really know what that means T
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To Tris- i asked about the question you posed.
That incident happened before Moses came down with the commandments. This was showing the sin/evil present in the world, to which the commandments were issued to prevent.
That incident happened before Moses came down with the commandments. This was showing the sin/evil present in the world, to which the commandments were issued to prevent.
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no im not, if u could be arsed to read the other thread brynn said i have raised some interesting points and he is going to get back to me. he could of changed? "hi god i murderd a lot of children but now i changed its ok isnt it?
edit: thanks byrnn
edit: thanks byrnn
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Arnor
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Originally posted by tris-
no im not, if u could be arsed to read the other thread brynn said i have raised some interesting points and he is going to get back to me. he could of changed? "hi god i murderd a lot of children but now i changed its ok isnt it?
edit: thanks byrnn
if you werent being an ass, how come you didnt even think of the possibility that he had changed (for instance, I dunno) and immediately called bullshit etc.
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Heh no probs tris- just trying to help
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tris-
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its ok for god to be a cock but not other people to be one? so he is also a hypocryte?
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Brynn
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explain
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tris-
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well he did all that great flood stuff then sends moses down with some rock with some shit written on em saying u cant be bad etc, even though he was. so it got him off the hook but anyone else who now does it is goin to hell.
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He removed the sin from the planet - saving those who believed in him.
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my beef is not with the people who sinned before they knew but about god, who can change from evil to not as evil but no one else can
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Brynn
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I dont really understand what u just said
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but the thing is......... did he? i dont remember any archiological artifacts being discovered actually proving any of the things the bible has said 'happened'. surely if god flooded earth there would be some kind of evidence that now, with our understanding of science, we'd be able to find? if he flooded the entire planet killing everything, surely there would be thousands of remains left over? like the dinosaurs.. they've been dead millions of years yet we're finding they're bones every day, how come we're not finding millions of animal bones from a great flood?
its basically all made up, isnt it?
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brynn has never jerked off or thought about having sex then i guess if hes so holy untill he gets married oc