Politics The General Election 2015

Who will you vote for?!

  • Green Party

    Votes: 7 11.1%
  • Monster Raving Loony Party

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • Conservative Party

    Votes: 21 33.3%
  • Labour Party

    Votes: 6 9.5%
  • United Kingdom Independence Party

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • British National Party

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Liberal Democrats Party

    Votes: 4 6.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 4.8%
  • None

    Votes: 10 15.9%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 5 7.9%

  • Total voters
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Raven

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I'll just leave this here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32495060

It seems the debate is happening and could potentially mean that change is made for the better within the EU, not just for the UK but other countries too.

So much for a bunch of AMERGERD RACIALISTS having no positive effect.
 

DaGaffer

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I'll just leave this here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32495060

It seems the debate is happening and could potentially mean that change is made for the better within the EU, not just for the UK but other countries too.

So much for a bunch of AMERGERD RACIALISTS having no positive effect.

Erm, except the fundamental thing those AMERGERD RACIALISTS want, limits to free movement of EU citizens, can't and won't happen. And the ability to amend treaties has always been there, its just the UK finds it easier to snipe from the sidelines like a whiny bitch rather than engage with the process.
 

Raven

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Erm, except the fundamental thing those AMERGERD RACIALISTS want, limits to free movement of EU citizens, can't and won't happen. And the ability to amend treaties has always been there, its just the UK finds it easier to snipe from the sidelines like a whiny bitch rather than engage with the process.

Irrelevant.

The subject of Europe is being discussed and debated, rather than just being swept under the carpet. Its becoming clearer and clearer than just trying to yell loader than the right is not working, both here, in France and in Germany. All have seen a recent rise in the far right because many people feel they are being ignored.

The only way loons like UKIP will be stopped is to engage their supporters concerns and either take what they say on board or show them that they are wrong.
 

Job

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Let's wait till after the election to see how people actually think.
 

Gwadien

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Something that's confusing me, and something I can't work out.

Everyone's saying the Tories will get more seats, but Labour will get enough to form a minority Government, why does 'Labour have enough to form a minority Government' if the Tories can also still create a Government? - The only reason I can see is if no-one will negotiate with the Tories?

What happens if there's 300 seats Labour gets 120 the Tories get 140 and both have enough to make coalitions with other parties that are willing to negotiate? - Does the majority party get priority over the minority party?
 

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They can both try to form coalitions and depending on who's got the biggest numbers at the end of the day will pass a vote of confidence in the commons and become the government.

Because SNP >> UKIP then Labour will have a greater supporting number of votes if the election is close.


To be fair - I'm much more scared of Tory+UKIP than I am of Labour+SNP. Even though my economic situation says I should lean the other way.
 

Gwadien

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They can both try to form coalitions and depending on who's got the biggest numbers at the end of the day will pass a vote of confidence in the commons and become the government.

Because SNP >> UKIP then Labour will have a greater supporting number of votes if the election is close.


To be fair - I'm much more scared of Tory+UKIP than I am of Labour+SNP. Even though my economic situation says I should lean the other way.

Okay, let's say for arguments sakes, there's 100 seats up for grab. Tories get 30 Labour gets 20, Tories mates get 15 Labours mates get 25, and then there's 10 seats that are like LOL FAGGOTS WE AINT PARTNERING.

What happens then?

Or are the chances so slim it's not been thought about?
 

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Parliament remains hung. In which case Tory/Lib Dem stays in power until it becomes clear a new coalition can't be formed, then Dave & Nick have to resign. I think, in that case, there's another Election or the opposition is invited to form a government (in this case I think another Election is most likely).
 

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If neither coalition of parties reaches the majority level then the one with the most can try and run a minority government. But they will be hard pushed to get the queens speech voted through. As well as any policies.

So we could see another election called if they cant get the co operation of the other large party on certain key votes.
 

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Another election one way or another within a year is quite a likely outcome. The major difference will be in the shape of a huge great lumbering blonde named Boris who will be Tory Leader and will make quite the difference.
 

Gwadien

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Another election one way or another within a year is quite a likely outcome. The major difference will be in the shape of a huge great lumbering blonde named Boris who will be Tory Leader and will make quite the difference.

If that happens, that would absolutely support my theory that the political parties aren't going for the 'cult of personality' anymore.

I'm pretty sure the Tories are too scared to go back to Maggie Thatcher style leadership, or that'll scare off alot of undecided voters, same deal for Labour with Tony Blair, and well, Nick Clegg was the saviour of politics in the 2010 election, and we all know how excellently that went.

Tow the party line and criticise other parties, boring politics.
 

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Job

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Of course there are much bigger forces at play than us worrying about our interest payments, I support austerity because clamping down on welfare payments makes me feel good, I get fuk all from the government and daily visit fat ass doleys sat at home watching Kyle, feeding their faces and moaning that the landlord hasn't fixed the tap in the bathroom for two days.
It's an underclass of useless people who have been bred on the back of handouts and all they frickin do is moan about this and that benefit they should get while the kids play on their xbox's.
You have to see it to become properly right wing.
 

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If kicking the poor makes you feel good @Job then fair enough - but kicking all of us - including those of us that like to work for a living, is fucking dumb.

The tories know austerity doesnt work - which is why they did it hard early on then stopped doing it (but kept talking about it). They're in it to permanently reduce the size and power of the state - ideological cuts that hurt us all during a transfer of power and wealth to the wealthiest...
 

Job

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I think the ever increasing divide between the poor and the rich is something outside of politics, those things get are sorted by revolution, no amount of tinkering legislation is going to stop us slowly returning to barons and serfs.
 

DaGaffer

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I think the ever increasing divide between the poor and the rich is something outside of politics, those things get are sorted by revolution, no amount of tinkering legislation is going to stop us slowly returning to barons and serfs.

You live in one of the few countries that shows that logic is flawed (the gap between rich and poor is widening now, but relentlessly narrowed for over 200 years without a revolution). And I'd just point out that the country that had the most famous revolution in history to destroy the divide between rich and poor, is, 99 years later, the most unequal country on Earth...
 

Bodhi

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I find wealth inequality a bit of a red herring to be honest with you - wealth inequality in China has exploded compared to where it was 30 years ago, yet which China do you think is a better place to live - now or 1985? Yes, the rich have got richer, but so have the poor, so as long as everyone's lot is improving, I really don't see the issue.
 

Raven

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People moaning about wealth inequality using a device that will have cost at least £500 from a nice warm office or home.

Heh, I wonder what people who live in slums and have absolutely no idea where their next meal is coming from would have to say about that.
 

Job

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Undoubtedly, but when the top 10% have as much wealth as the other 90% and people die for want of a 50 quid drug, then something is wrong, the rich are just collecting all the money for something to do now, there are families with wealth beyond any possible need, they are having a pissing contest at our expense.
 

Bodhi

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Undoubtedly, but when the top 10% have as much wealth as the other 90% and people die for want of a 50 quid drug, then something is wrong, the rich are just collecting all the money for something to do now, there are families with wealth beyond any possible need, they are having a pissing contest at our expense.

Yes, there is something wrong (other than you in the head) - there is no way those drugs should be £50. Legalise them, so they can be a £20 fix. Much better.
 

Job

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Someone said drug and Bodhi got his syringe out.
 

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Drug companies should be nationalised. And run for the good of the people not their share holders. Drugs should cover costs. Not to make profits. If you really want to save everyone.
 

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