The community Vs Dwera/Grivne

Cerbie

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Leave my favourite twollie alone, stupid people.

Some real strange people in this game sometimes, lucky grivne knows he has lots of friends.
 

Sobek

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DAoC is a mmorpg - you will find all aspects of people, some who whine, some whos trying to get the best out things, others who just really dont bother about some classes are more "powered up" than others, - Whining is a normal thing in this game, but people take it to far
i.e when you hear your real life mates whine, then you dont go over "QQ MORE FUCKING NOOB!" etc, but you do in this game (some do) and thats pretty unfair, even though you dont repesent the "real you" through your character, you still get offend by comments, and being flamed by a mass of people, can really fuck up your day

All whine, and it can't be helped, but think about you actions - im sure Grivne/Dwera have gotten plenty of insulting comments, in the past few weeks, specially after his movie, i think people should stop making fun of others, and some people should get their ego problem sorted.
 

Elendar

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dwera is a great guy, sure whines a bit but so do many others
and personal attacks like this are lame whoever they are directed at
 

Sagano

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i saw grivneiwantyourbabies or something
had to laugh with it not because its about dwera but you gotta be seriously frustrated to make a char with a name like that and run it to emain ...

anyway dwera you know i love you :)
/hug
 

Ethild

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My personal experience of Grivne has 2 sides ... Note that I only speak with him on IRC, so what he is like in game may be completely different.

There is one side of him thats relatively normal, makes useful points and constructive criticism about classes, balancing, usual DAoC speak etc. Sadly, I've seen this side for about 5% of his communication on IRC? This may well be biased as IRC tends to be whine anyway, but like I said, this is *my* experience of him.

The less pleasent side (the one thats exposed about 95% of the time), is one of permanent whining and consistant hypocricy. What do I mean by such a statement? Well here is some examples of what I mean...

<Grivne> Just 3 shotted an infiltrator :)
...
<Grivne> FS
<Grivne> Just got 3 shotted by an infiltrator
<Grivne> They are SO overpowerd, with their 2.5 spec points


<Grivne> Erf, just got added on. Why dont people fight solo?
<Grivne> Can never go anywhere without a zerg.
...
<Grivne> Nah <name removed>, I wasnt zerging. I was helping my realm mate.
<Grivne> We dont zerg, we aid each other in times of need.


The types of statements as per above, occur most days, much to my (and a lot of other players) amusement. However, if you try to point out to him that hes being silly? perhaps a hypocrit? You will probably get banned... shouted at... told to STFU etc by him. He frequently questions why people challenge his points, in my opinion its obvious. Normally at this point he then goes into some spiel about how he was picked on as a child, and thats made him the way he is. As if this is some form of excuse so that he can dish out abuse at people... and not get it back in return?

If he wants to act in this way, then that is his choice. I just dont see why he is so supprised when people respond offensively back.
 

remi

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i found those graves kinda funny, but i got such wierd humour :p
 

ev0_o

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Dont get me wrong, i like dwera. But seeing those death spams in emain and those graves made me laugh, If ppl havnt got a sence of humour, then dont laugh. Instead of making making a pointless thread about a joke...

Talking of jokes! A bear walks into a bar and asks the barman for a pint of beer..................... and a bag of crisps. the barman replies, why the big pause?
 

Puppet

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remi said:
i found those graves kinda funny, but i got such wierd humour :p

/em runs off to make chars called Zerach32323232 and Remilagstrafecunt

xD

Tho tbh if I found a grave with 'Puppetkitebitch' I would be honoured. :)
 

Dook

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/Agree with Ethilds post completely.

PS. Klav, have my babies. :<
 

Pio

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Ethilds has it spot on I dont read any of these whiney posts I just flick to the back and reply :eek:
 

Shike

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hum hum..

Normally I dont really care about the drama's going on on prydwen but this time I believe someone quite stupid went abit too far.

Ooth, Grivne, it is a game, it is fictional characters, it is all it is. Nothing more, nothing less. Even if you are a roleplayer and your character would take actions like that in a very serious way, banning someone for tasteless humour isnt really right either. Shrug it off and go on dude, dont bother with a person that obviosly is a ****.
 

Chimaira

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There is 3 graves with Grivneblablabla close to apk. I saw them tonight while out with infil.

I must be nearly as famous with my bloddy whine as Grivne is. difference is hes nice guy im not :m00:

Serious tho. makes me sick and sad and angry at the same time to see such crap going on. Especially Prydwen which I always thought higher of than Excalibur.

The morons shud be banned or atleast warned.

Chim.

PS. Dwera is one tough mfker. and I swore a lot after being chewed by you.
 

Kaitlyn

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Quoted from the CoC
'Users are expected to show respect for one another, to contribute to the cordial atmosphere of the game. Harassment of another person, insults or remarks intended to hurt another person will not be tolerated.'

And about names.

'-No references that degrade other players' characters or GOA personnel.'

Maybe just one of these characters could have been construed as a joke in extremely bad taste, but as there are or have been a number of them it can only be taken as harassment.
 

GrivneKelmorian

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Kaitlyn said:
Quoted from the CoC
'Users are expected to show respect for one another, to contribute to the cordial atmosphere of the game. Harassment of another person, insults or remarks intended to hurt another person will not be tolerated.'

And about names.

'-No references that degrade other players' characters or GOA personnel.'

Maybe just one of these characters could have been construed as a joke in extremely bad taste, but as there are or have been a number of them it can only be taken as harassment.

thank you, i havnt had the strength to look it up myself...now i can quote this to my next respons to goa.
 

Iceforge

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Corran said:
OK lets keep this short.

People here dont like Dwera, they think he whines to much, sometimes that may be true at times. However now people are taking it too far.

Some stupid person, whom got idea's that it is, has made an albion character RowenaHatedGrivne. Having fun is one thing, making personal attacks at other peoples emotions is another.

Really folks, no matter what you think leave him be, dont attack him personally. Sure, make issues with what he says, but lets stop direct insults at him. The same will be adviced to him and how he speaks to others but have some thought about others feelings.

Lets for once not be a bunch of abusive fucks as alot of the community is at times and keep it at a more mature level....

P.s. sure it aint RvR post but it aimed at all 3 realms hence why it here.

Damn! I have to delete my "RamboHatedSnoz" char then? Bugger all! :<

Seriously: To bad with people going that far and doing such lame things
 

Asharith

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Dwera is one of the most irritating ppl i have ever met on the internet. He always wants to be right and always has the last word , Also he acts like hes holier then god and is the biggest whiner on #prydwen.stealthers. Its funny though to have a conversation with him about stealther balance but that will result in you getting banned because she is +o and has very little arguments and even less facts to base it on.

He might be a nice dude if you play allong side of him .. But he`s also the most irritating retarded person on irc.
 

Amelyn

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Now everyone loves him and thinks he's probably a "nice dude IRL" ?
Not saying he ain't, but funny how opinions may turn in 5minutes due to a thread :cheers:
Is this a FOTM opinion? Just as it was FOTM to not like him earlier. :eek:

As Sycho said tho, judging people you meet in onlinegames based upon what he says thru his avatar ?-? erm it's like faking an orgasm when ur masturbating tbfh :kissit:
 

Ormorof

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my opinion of dwera is from being in same guild for about a year now, always friendly in game, ive only ever seen dwera unfriendly to someone once, and he deserved it :p
 

Kaitlyn

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My opinion of Grivne is through speaking with him on MSN, and even if you find a person irritating, annoying or whatever in a game does not excuse harassment in any way.
I seriously hope that the person or persons doing this get their account banned. People need to remember that just because it is the internet it is still party to the same rules and regulations as real life or at least it should be.
 

Jaem-

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The guy/gal that thought they needed to strike out at Griv with name calling is prob younger in mind and/or age, prob jealously/frustrated with being beaten by a better player.

To the one that did this:
You need to get out more to be honest, take a break from DAoC if its causing you to acting in such a low way, if DAoC pisses you off that much.

Its rather cowardly tbh, if you feel so strongly about another player, login irc, and discuss the problem, rather then leaving anon msgs in emain.

If you feel the need to spend 30 mins or so, of your life making new chars getting them to emain, move on to something else imho, your not wanted and/or needed within your guild, alliance, realm, game.
 

Jaem-

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Asharith said:
Dwera is one of the most irritating ppl i have ever met on the internet. He always wants to be right and always has the last word , Also he acts like hes holier then god and is the biggest whiner on #prydwen.stealthers. Its funny though to have a conversation with him about stealther balance but that will result in you getting banned because she is +o and has very little arguments and even less facts to base it on.

He might be a nice dude if you play allong side of him .. But he`s also the most irritating retarded person on irc.

Theres a channel just for rogues? ;o
 

nuky

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if u dont like him, dont talk to him. personally the times i talked to him ingame i found he was a very nice guy.

whoever made a char with that name needs taken out and kicked about a bit tbh
 

Pudzy

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I like Grivne, I've been friends with him eversince I made my first char, but as I've told him alot of the whine is generating alot of hate, this thing with the graves is fucking rediculus what **** did that? I agree with parts of his SB movie being lame, the sub titles namely, which caused huge flame. People are still picking on him about Rowena (sp?), where's the point in that? Half the ***** who do it are about 13, Grivne's, believe it or not, a sensitive guy, and takes -EVERYTHING- to heart, as I said much can be deserved because of whine+movie, but theres a line between laughing at a whiner and taking the piss, to depressing him irl, try not to cross it, since we know how seriouse some people can take this game, fucknows what it could drive a person to when this game becomes your life, I've been there.

How you all gona feel inside if oneday there was a post here about him killing himself in real life, post as many sarcastic replies here as you want, if it actually happend you'd apologise for the way you acted, and it'd be too late. Don't think I'm being far-fetched, its bullying, and I aint saying I've never done it, I've been a ****, but I've enough heart to see when enough's enough.
 

Eroa

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I agree Pudz.. enough is enough.. now get back under your stone again! :p
 

Gahn

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Uhm

Ofc chars will be already deleted, and the guy who thought such a low profile payback is simply an idiot (and IMO deserves a ban anyway).
So Dwera/Grivne should treat him as it, simply don't care: there are nuff troubles in Real Life everyday without get annoyed by stupids pre teen ppl ^^
 

nuky

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this thread title should be edited by a mod or somethin too, it in its own right is just rediculous as obviously a large amount of the 'community' have no beef with griv
 

Escape

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well anyone hanging out in a channel called "#prydwen.stealthers" is likely to commit suicide. Infact anyone who would suicide over online crap, is the kind of geek who gives gaming a bad reputation and I'd find it hard to mourn for them.

What's the deal with Grivne/Rowena anyway, wasn't it just another roleplay relationship? Like those controversial firbolg/elf love affairs. If people are getting worked up and taking offence at such petty acts, they need to check themselves and not the fool making these chars.
 

nuky

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Escape said:
well anyone hanging out in a channel called "#prydwen.stealthers" is likely to commit suicide. Infact anyone who would suicide over online crap, is the kind of geek who gives gaming a bad reputation and I'd find it hard to mourn for them.

Fact is people do take trivial thing far too seriously, i know all too well. if u could actually see things from other peoples point of view u would probably understand.
 

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