Football The 2012 / 2013 Season Thread

[caLLous]

Rafa to Stoke? That could be interesting...

 

[Aoami]

No chance. He'll get a better job than that. He says he wants to stay in England but i think PSG might come knocking and he wont turn that down.

 

[Aoami]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...outhampton-despite-interest-from-Chelsea.html

I hope this is true. Unlike the sales of Bale, Walcott & Ox, we're under no pressure to sell at the moment. I feel all of three of them left too early and should've stayed on with us for 2 or 3 years and got the first team experience, and I hope Shaw feels like that, especially as he's playing in the top flight.

 

[Aoami]

Also -



Shit quality but you can see what he's doing. Should get a ban for that.

 

[megadave]

How's that not been picked up ? Seems like Evans had a terrible game all round

 

[Moriath]

Since promotion to the PL in 2008, Stoke have scored 0.99 goals per game; the fewest of all teams in the top flight for 3+ seasons.

In the past 4 seasons, Stoke have averaged the lowest pass success rate (66.9%) of all teams to have been in the Premier League.

Since August 2008 Stoke City have taken 2435 long throws in the Premier League, at least 1363 more than any other team.

Of Stoke's 190 Premier League games since promotion in 2008, they have had >50% possession in only 13.

Stoke City were involved in seven of the 10 shortest Premier League games in 2012-13 based on ball-in-play time.

This season, the most frequently fouling team were Stoke with an average of 11.8 per match

If it works why change?

Makes him and others money it's up to the rest of the league to stop it working and make him change.

Blame them.

 

[megadave]

But they've spent loads of money and it hasn't really got them anywhere.

 

[Raven]

Villa have also spent a fuckton of money and gone nowhere, twice as much (gross) as Stoke in fact.

http://transferleague.co.uk/league-tables/transfer-league-table-last-five-seasons.html

Bad managers are bad.

Edit, if a club can't win everything possible when spending 100+ million a season there is something very rotten at the club.

 

[DaGaffer]

But they've spent loads of money and it hasn't really got them anywhere.

European football and an FA Cup final. More than a lot of clubs have managed. This isn't to defend Stoke's brand of boring shite football, but its not entirely accurate to say they've not gotten anywhere. If I was a Stoke supporter I'd have long since stopped going to matches though, there are much cheaper ways to cure insomnia.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Board have cited that reason he was sacked was because he wasn't improving the team, just continuing the status quo of avoid relegation. The board are right to demand more given the amount of money they gave Pulis. You don't expect to see him spending £5-10m on Championship quality cloggers and playing centre backs as full backs and even occasionally as wingers.

 

[caLLous]

Apparently Peter Coates had a lot of time for Pulis but neither his son or his daughter (who are becoming more powerful in the running of the club) liked him or his style of management (if you can call what he did a style).

So, Mark Hughes to come in, spend a lot of money, fail miserably and get relegated?

 

[Aoami]

I can see this plan backfiring as I think you'll need to spend a huge amount of money on that squad to make them a better team that can play any other way than Pulis' way. The bosses are right to gamble as they can't carry on like this for ever, but I think they'll go down next year.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Yep totally. Pulis fucked the future of the club by buying such utter dross. They're in desperate need of midfielders and attackers, and proper full backs.

 

[Vladamir]

2012/13 - Nani, Valencia, Young, Welbeck = 6 goals.
2012/13 - Terry, Ivanovic, David Luiz, Cahill = 27 goals

 

[Ch3tan]

Yet you finished 3rd, amazing what a couple if decent strikers can do.

 

[Vladamir]

*Striker

 

[Ch3tan]

Also, your stats compare your defence/midfielder to our midfielders and one striker... why not show comparable stats, and also goals scored total...?

 

[Turamber]

In the era of Bosmans transfer fees are only half the story, wages paid are a huge factor - as are the size of the playing squads fielded by some sides.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2013/apr/18/premier-league-club-accounts-debt

In 2011/2012 Arsenals' wage bill was more than twice the wage bill of Aston Villa and nearly three times the size of Stoke's.

 

[Raven]

Villa more than made up for it on transfer fees though

 

[Ch3tan]

Villa have changed their ways though under Lerner. The fans may not like it, but they now have a young, cheap and effective side that could be really quite good if it isn't decimated.

 

[Shagrat]

Villa have changed their ways though under Lerner. The fans may not like it, but they now have a young, cheap and effective side that could be really quite good if it isn't decimated.

Holding a team like that together is the key for a team like villa isn't it.

Benteke has been a revelation, they've pulled some great young players into the first time who've had a bit of a baptism of fire but now have some premier league experience. They need to keep them together and could make some good progress in the league, rather than letting the top5 vultures pick off all the best talent and to some degree waste it.

 

[Aoami]

Villa have changed their ways though under Lerner. The fans may not like it, but they now have a young, cheap and effective side that could be really quite good if it isn't decimated.

True enough, but they got very lucky this year. If they hadn't have found Benteke they'd have been relegated weeks ago.

 

[soze]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...-Defence-League-mobs-march-against-Islam.html

You do not need a lot of Photoshop skill to make this look like John Terry.

 

[soze]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4938672/Thomas-Vermaelen-can-go-for-5m.html

For £5 million unless his wages are ridiculous I would much rather keep him as backup. If he is desperate to say he will fight for his place.

 

[Billargh]

Villa have changed their ways though under Lerner. The fans may not like it, but they now have a young, cheap and effective side that could be really quite good if it isn't decimated.

"The word decimation is derived from Latin meaning "removal of a tenth"."

Don't think losing 2 or 3 players would be such a problem

 

[Aoami]

If they lost Benteke, Agbonlahor and Guzan it would be.

 

[Billargh]

Stop ruining my attempts at being a smartarse man Aoami!

 

[Scouse]

 

[soze]

Frimpong has another knee injury. 2 months this time.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Doesn't bode well for him tbh, a few knee injuries already.